Betfair Poker Demo Night & WSOPE seat available

You find it amazing that people would like free food and drink and then to play a mtt where the top two prizes are worth at least a grand?

BetfairPokerPR Joined: 21 Mar 08
Replies: 194 03 Aug 10 14:39   
WOW - amazingly all 25 people have replied and confirmed .........so no re-draw.
Look forward to seeing you all tomorrow evening.
I will wear a red carnation so you know who I am.

This is amazing as i have just e mailed them to inform them i cant make it
and to let someone else play

so thats 2 that cant make it, lol. Whats going on?

I think we both know what is going barretta.

Same old story when it comes to things like this, when it comes to random draws it's not what you know it's who you know

Good Luck to all who participate tomorrow, it would be nice if someone could post up who wins the prizes etc?

James what i find amazing is they have the gall to come on here day after day slagging bf then when there is a promo they turn round and say pick me pick me pick me, then when they dont get what they want they start again, agreed the prize is a nice one, but surely bf should reward those who have stuck by them and leave these whingers alone.

The tongue in cheek Wow - Amazingly etc should have been a dead give away. [;)]  I also wondered how they are going to do the tables with 25.  A strange number to have, don't you think?

bound to be some bf staff as bounties probably, so numbers will prob be more

They may have a few bounties or something like that or other pre invited guests. Im just guessing but i dont recall them saying it was just 25 but rather that they have 25 spaces available.

Good luck to all who play.  Klup - please let us know how the night goes and who won etc.

DaVinci,

Just want to say that I have no connection with BF or anyone in the company; indeed I hardly post on this forum yet I was picked.

I did question at the time whether it would be randomly chosen but I am proof that it was.

I look forward to seeing everyone tomorrow night

I have just replied to say i can attend (although did ring earlier, but have zero faith in helpdesk doing anything) and want to echo the above blokes post. I havent played on betfair seriously for a good couple of years after falling out with regard non english talk between 2 scandis when down to the last 3 in a tourny and what i precieved to be little action (they carried on until i was knocked out), so by far not a 'choosen' one picked.

And can anyone advice best way froms kings cross to betfair please ??

Hi Selkirk

I'm not very good at communicating on a forum, which, to be honest is why I don't do it more often so please don't take this the wrong way.

I have no doubt the original selection was random (and I am pleased you were invited - Good Luck BTW). The problem I have is after that original selection was made (4 days late as it goes) things haven't been quite right... There are certain people who probably deserve to go who weren't included intially which is fair enough.

I'll probably get banned or similar for what I am going to say now, but at this point I am not too bothered. Certain posters connected to Betfair have obviously posted things that patently aren't true which I find disturbing.

I am a man of principle and have struggled to deal with this whole process. I have kids and wouldn't let them behave in this manner (Basically I am not an 18 year old keyboard warrior)

It is pretty obvious what has happened but no one can actually come out and admit it.

I'm not a high raker myself so was never expecting an invite, but the other thing that has bugged me somewhat is the people who constantly slate Betfair are now all of a sudden loving the site because of a Freebie.

I run a business myself and if I had people posting untruths to my customers I would be livid.

Just re-read the above prior to posting and it still doesn't sound right and makes me come across as cantakerous old fool.

I'll try not to post again and genuinely I wish you and everyone else playing tomorrow night the best of luck.

Kenvil - You need to get on the Picadilly line to Hammersmith.

See you tomorrow!

alexsdad - "hate" is a strong word and does not reflect just walking away and choosing a better skin which I and I guess most of the rest you refer to actually did. Which of the 25 do you refer to that "hate" Betfair? You come across as a very sad individual.

Da Vinch - I remember you from the old crypto days and I think you also carried on playing on crypto when Betfair went to the pokerchamps system as I disd also. I respected you as a good player when we were on the same tables which is why I felt compelled to reply. I can see where you are coming from and good luck on which ever skin you currently play - I guess ipoker??

James Beckton - never met you but some of the posts I have read from you are quality, look forward to meeting you tomorrow.

Best

danners (mangothecat)

No danners you have me mixed up with someone else, so I guess you need to file me in to the 'Sad' category too.

I'm shockingly bad

agreed DaVinci, me tooim a sad lonely old man, by the way danners i wasnt bothered who got selected. But its supposed to be a demo and feedback night on bf2 so if u dont play on this skin what imput can u have apart from freerolling on a skin which u have already slagged off and on other threads loads of people say they hate the new skin. by the way the use of the 'u' is not to u personally.

there was deffo a Davinch on the crypto site.

Alexdad - Betfair 1 (pokerchamps) was an appalling system, I would estimate over 90% of the regular players before the move from crypto left Betfair because of it, hence this forum being pretty dead compared to the old days. This is a different skin that I have never played on before and I am happy to give it a try because a) I like the fact I can use funds from my sports trading and b) I've not been as profitable on any system in the past 2 years (ipoker, stars, microgaming) compared to my 4 years on the cryptologic network or my live play so willing to give this ongame system a go. Is that ok with you?

I know danners i was one of them, ive been here for many years in one guise or another, have had to change my username several times due to moving countries where bf wouldnt allow me to keep the same account when i moved to a euro or other currency country, now of course all is different. gl to u

ok m8 - good luck to u too

There was a Davinch on the old site danners you are right. I think he may also have been known as 'Tank' or similar? Not me though. I echo the comments from alex, Good Luck tomorrow.

i think davinch was dealem

agreed keith

davinch was deal'em and davinci 1 is different

DaVinci,

I was suspicious that the draw would be random and personally I would have invited those on here who played on BF1 the most regularly, whatever they had to say on the site, good or bad.

However I'm not complaining. I've played on BWIN in the past so have some experience of the network.

As I don't frequent this forum all that much, I don't know what you are referring to when you say that certain posters connected to Betfair have obviously posted things that patently aren't true.

Thanks for the good luck message, let's see if all these on here are as good as they claim to be [;)]

well i've played against keith and beckton and you should be able to pwn those two easily enough

lol soc i pwned u live last time, although obv i agree beckton is rubbish

i reckon beckton has got this in the bag already...

would need to know his real name to check (please don't disclose this Sapckers1 on the forum)
He is not on my list of attendees.

errrmmm i am oooogghh! i dunno why my nickname on forum has changed to spackers1 either! i cant attend and if someones said they can as ooooggh im a little worried LOL!!! My friend who never plys on bf gets given 10 free vip tickets to ascot! i ply and rake you tons never get these offers!! me nicht understand.

probably raked well over 100k for the site! Had 1 offer after i made a complaint in about 4 years of playing!!!my 3 friends who between them have raked maybe 50k at a stretch have proly had 10 offer plus between them! i do not understand betfair really

Spackers when i quallied to a bf event last yr at the empire there was a load of people who were there who had been invited, when i was talking to some of them and asking how they got there invite, most was that they had been previous players but had not played on bf for years but kept receiving offers to go to see the new improved bf and when they had been to one, it was easy to get a second and third invite, some were off to cheltenham for a day out and some had already been offered man u and chelsea tickets, none of them said they had any intention of playing on bf but as long as they kept getting offers they were going to take them. So i guess the moral is to leave, play elsewhere and when they miss u and send u the emails, attend events get more invites but dont come back to play on here, simples

Does anoyone know how many runners will be playing tonight in the tourney?

Thanks
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There will hopefully be 25 players attending tonight and approximately 3-4 staff members. The staff normally have a last longer bet amongst themselves to make it competitive and avoid chip dumping. There will be 3 tables all with professional dealers.

Why betfair pr did you choose the 25 posters to invite at random?  You have players going that, apparently, do not even play on betfair.  I am not talking out of my pocket because I did not enter, but surely you could have rewarded your most loyal customers whether they hated the new betfair or not, they would have given you better feedback. 

Those attending should have been picked at random from your best or most loyal customers, not those just posting on this site - which is not very many.

Final word from me as realise I am boring all of you as well as myself now

I also realise I am not going to get any answers.

Good Luck at all of those who are going tonight, hope it's a good one.

I got too personal with my attack on you BPPR and for that I apologise.

Also to any other Betfair people who read this I wouldn't underestimate the time and effort Klup puts in to keeping people happy, he really should be on your payroll.

BetfairPokerPR  ... just dropped a mail to ur events inbox ref tonight.

I could have rewarded those that play on the site and post favourably but I wanted to have an open and honest discussion. If people don't like Betfair or the new software we want to hear why.

If we only heard from people who like Betfair2 then no changes would be made. As long as the critism is constructive then we can help shape Betfair2 into a prodcut that everyone will want to use.

This will be our 4th demo event and we have had some really interesting discussions at all of them. I hope tonight is no different.
Looking forward to meeting you all tonight.

well in potential anticipation of free booze and a feed, i'd like to reiterate that i'm literally 2 miles from betfair hq so if you need a last min replacement, call me.

Thanks BPPR, in that one post you have finally answered the questions I have been asking over the last couple of days. I appreciate it.

Now where is that dictionary so that I can look up the definition of 'Random'

For all those people that have been harranging/questioninig annie about her sex (you know who you are!) I have looked up HER records and can confirm that SHE is a WOMAN.

Please keep your comments respectful.

I don't want to police these forums as normally you are all well behaved and rib each other in a lightehearted way but on this occassion you have upset a fellow forumite.

Let's move on everyone.

see the thread on chit chat.
[ ] upset
[x] seeking attention imo

Thank you very much, betfairpokerpr.

AT LAST - IT HAS ONLY TAKEN FOUR YEARS FOR SUCH A SIMPLE REQUEST 

I would add though, as I have repeatedly said, I was not upset by the comments, I just wanted the record to be put straight  And you do not have to keep the comments respectful, I am a grown up

I could have rewarded those that play on the site and post favourably but I wanted to have an open and honest discussion. If people don't like Betfair or the new software we want to hear why.

If we only heard from people who like Betfair2 then no changes would be made. As long as the critism is constructive then we can help shape Betfair2 into a prodcut that everyone will want to use.

for the above to happen dontyou actually need people who play on bf2 and those who played on the skin before? seems a pointless excercise as half of the people who posted dont play on here and havent for a while.
Da vinci is right re klup by the way

six of clubs appears to be more worried if annie is a woman or attenton seeking, rather than anything to do with this thread to be fair.

Unless he can get a freebie of course..........

are you the narrator?

Agree re the comments on The Klup - would have been a mistake not to have included him.  Too many freeloaders who don't play on this site and haven't for some time there tho.
Anything for a freebie I suppose.

Why Do you need a bedtime story?

If not, as someone who has openly come out and said they woudn't play here again and they want to withdraw their funds (Even though you'll gladly take Betfair's added value at the forum game while giving nothing back), why do you ask? Is it because this forum belongs to you and your mates exclusively?

can you point out where i've said that? because i uninstalled bf poker for 18 months until the week before the changeover so i could see
who had bought into the bfwcop via the holding tank. i then swapped over to the new site to check the holding tank there, only to find it wasnt.
nowhere have i made any comments about bf poker 2 or withdrawing any money. but don't let the facts get in the way huh?

as for the forum game, like the demo night, bf choose to sponsor it knowing full well the situation. unlike the demo night, the forum game is open to everyone and all you need to do is turn up and hand over your money. if you think its a waste of their money thats your opinion. i don't turn up because of added value and its not a factor in my decision to come along.

nowhere has anyone said this forum belongs to a group of people exclusively, but i suppose judging from your post you aren't good at reading and comprehension. maybe get your facts straight before you leap in with both feet and nfi?

Ok. Cheers.

Are you the narrator?

[ ] i am the narrator

there are places available in the team event i believe if you're interested in coming along.
i think bf still have that hand ranking sheet which you can print out and bring along if that would help.

[x] start the car

Nice invite. I'll bear it in mind.

I wonder why you are struggling for numbers this year eh

If they are all as nice as you I can't understand it at all

Do you give out ranking sheets to everyone you don't know?

Good Luck mate it's been fun.

it has more to do with betfair poker going downhill and everyone going their separate ways.

i dont usually post this much but i'm not going to let sarky comments with no factual basis remain unanswered. if that makes me look like
a charlie to some people, so be it. most of the people who've been around here a few years know me i guess and if they have been to
a bfwcop they have heard my inane and neverending banter, so it goes through to the keeper for them.

now that we have a lot of new faces, it seems very few if any of them want to come along. its hard to blame them really, we used to
have a great community on here with some spirit, now we dont even get the argumentative threads anymore, its just tumbleweeds.

Don't

I'm feeling sorry for you now.

I was only on the wind up, I guess like you say there isn't much banter any more. Never used to post in the hey day, but still used to read a lot of the goings on. Funny as hell a lot of it too.

I was only saying to Klup earlier how I was considering coming along, but unfortunately I can't make it this time round.

Good Luck with it in any case and I hope it turns out well.

At least we have got an argumentative thread here

i've tried being nice and posting left right and centre. it hasn't worked.

maybe being a cúnt is the answer.

I've tried it for the last few days and nobody has taken a blind bit of notice of me.

But you never know, everything is worth a go

Good Luck and if you have one of these Events next year or whenever I'd like to come, if still welcome. I'll bring my Hand Ranking sheet.

I have noticed you, davinci and I think you are nice    Is your name your poker name too?

Thank you for a goodnight betfair most appreciated, good to meet up with you all, also good to put a face to the name i.e PROTEIN & THE  KLUP true gents

Yep echo those sentiments. It was a good night and nice to meet so many friendly people.

Thankyou BFP.

Lizlieu

Thanks betfair for a great night... always nice to meet some new faces.

I ran like god so sorry for dishing out so many badbeats :)

Ain't that the truth

I shouldn't have called with K 2 but you live and learn....

How did the Q&A go? Any clues on what they may be looking to change going forward?

Wp Flopit and Hagler and ul selkirk

Nice to meet you all and thanks BF for a good night

It was great to meet some of you last night and put faces to alias's.
I hope you all had a good time and found it useful as well as enjoyable.
I will try and make this more regular if you think it would be popular. (cant give away WSOPE every time though )

Very good night, well done Flop It and Hagler, good luck in the big one. Can we have the next Betfair Live in Newcastle please? A bit less of a drive! How did the cash game go Keith?

Standard was rubbish, decided to go 50/50 with Beckton (god knows why!). I won £145 in an hour and he won £65

Very nice Keith.

DaVinci - They explained well why they had to make the change, with Greece() Italy, Spain etc looking to 'fence in' their poker a la France, the player base will be decimated.

Id just like to say thanks to everyone for a pleasant evening. It was nice to put a face to a name. Well done to Floppit and hagler. Maybe we could do it again some time soon.

Thanks all
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I think the fencing in is a huge factor and something that never really crossed my mind.

I personally seem ok with the software, it is just the grey graphics that do my nut in.

We all liked the old platform but times change and we wont all be here forever.

That said - there is exceptional value in the BF exclusive games at the moment!

Hi all, in addition to what's already been said by those that attended I'd also like to express my gratitude and it was indeed, nice to put names to faces.

Biggest shock of the night was, without doubt, The Klup drinking water and eating salad!!!

Anyway some other things that the BF team said they'd take away/do or brought to our attention.

1) They are going to provide an average duration time for the Ongame regular MTTs....I'm guessing this will be a page on the site.

2) They are looking at reintroducing the 6 shooter - and setting it up with qualifying satellite's.

3) Betfair Live will continue and they are hoping to set up an event for early next year in the UK.

4) The chat box in the main lobby is exclusive to BF players.

5) They are going to seek a software enhancement with Ongame for a 'player finder'.

6) There will not be a 'waiting list' introduced for Cash tables. 

7) Current traffic levels are showing 1/3 of the players on Ongame are BF players.

That's all I can recall for now, hope it brings some enlightenment to you!

I'd just like to add a big well done to all those who traveled from afar.

I was moaning about having to do 20 stops on the underground but there were players who came from Devon, Isle of Wight, Lincolnshire and Newcastle amongst other destinations.

Anything for some free grub eh? [;)

Aye, shame I couldn't partake in the free booze though

Thanks Betfair, for what turn out to be a thouroughly good evening.
     See you in September at the Empire for a repeat performance!!

Jimmyslightbreeze Joined: 19 Nov 09
Replies: 21 05 Aug 10 14:31
Biggest shock of the night was, without doubt, The Klup drinking water and eating salad!!!

^^^^
reading this put me in shock too!  [:o][:o][:o]

Thanks for the info plankton & Jimmy. Appreciated.

Back to topic:
Great night, good to meet you all.
Thanks to BF, unlucky Selkirk

How were the reclining seats?

Well played Flop It, as someone who was first to get their name down in the random draw, it was good to see one of the main prizes going your way.

Nothing against you personally as I'd have taken the opportunity if offered too.

To be honest Betfair, if you are going to lose a lot of your European Players, maybe your next promotion could be a little more transparent for us UK players? Or you never know you may lose a load of them too. Or if you aren't going to do transparent don't post it on here?

I am absolutely dismayed by the farce that has occured here and even though no one else seems bothered, I am. Sorry.

One Ex Betfair Lover (The Narrator)

Klup is without doubt the master of the random draw on BF.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is making a big mistake.

I attend one PR exercise and all of a sudden this is an issue?

Betfair have run four of these events - u didnt see me at the other three did u?

What a mean spirited post by DaVinci I

The Klup put an awful lot of time and effort into rigging the 'Funniest Face' promotion, a few months back, so I, for one, am delighted that BetfairPokerPr has orchestrated the biggest carve-up since the 5 loaves and 2 fishes in order to give his buddy a night out on expenses.

On to the next debacle.

DaVinci I Joined: 26 Oct 04
Replies: 342 04 Aug 10 13:10   
Final word from me as realise I am boring all of you as well as myself now

Selkirk, the reclining seats were about as uncomfortable as the recent posts here! [:(]

You should've got a berth you tight git...

Yes agree with how this thread has descended.

DaVinci I Joined: 26 Oct 04
Replies: 349 05 Aug 10 20:14 
Well played Flop It, as someone who was first to get their name down in the random draw, it was good to see one of the main prizes going your way.

Nothing against you personally as I'd have taken the opportunity if offered too.

I assume this is a dig since I appear to have been 'selected' without putting my name down on this list? This is not the case at all... I actually got invited to the VIP/Key accounts same event the week before - since I have raked over £25k on the site this year. I was unable to attend that date so Betfair kindly offered to let me play in the one the week after.

As someone who plays and rakes a lot on Betfair why shouldn't I be given priority to added value events?

Oh and the draw was completely random imo. I met people who play once a week and others who play 5 times a week. My friend even attended and he hasn't played for nearly 3 months!

For the final time, the digs were aimed at Betfair not you or Klup.

If you read the thread from start to finish (which incidentally I wouldn't bother doing) hopefully you would see this.

Now as many of you have already put it enough is enough. I'll stick to my opinion and the rest of you can stick to yours.

BTW Klup I'm in The City on Monday 16/8 if you fancy meeting up for a beer (Or water if you prefer ) on me to show there are no hard feelings you know how to get hold of me.

Nice to see you all had a good time but it was very London based at short notice. Maybe a little more time and others outside the capital may have a chance of attending, after all flights are only a £2 Ryanair flight away. I've been to a few BF organized events and they are top notch (unlike Boyle's who charged me for food in their IPO).

Anything for us (Norn) Irish players coming up?

APAT (hint, hint).

Hi all,
I thought the whole point of this get together was to get some feedback on the new software from regular players from all levels,not just high stake players or regular posters on this forum, I just think they would have had a much better idea on players feelings had they chosen players from all levels of play.
I know some players that attended and I am sure they would have posted a lot of our forthcomings to Betfair.
Paige199

Was a good night and good to meet players from all levels. Well looked after, so thanks Betfair. They are going to look at improving some of the major concerns already raised on this forum and repeated on the night. It does not affect me, but I do wonder why a winning high stakes player would continue to play here given the change to the rakeback deal meaning losing players get more. They called it 'feeding the fish' but it didn't make sense to me.

Can someone please explain how the rake is distributed amongst the players in the game?  And what was the change in the rakeback deal?

I'm not sure I understand why it was preferrable to conduct a legitimate random draw by hand when everyone eligible to enter had access to the client with a built in RNG.

If I were organising the draw, I'd have just created a freeroll lottery tournament in the client with a password advertised on the forum which would alleviate doubts over the legitimacy of the draw whilst allowing me to use the time saved by not having to note down all the names, conduct the draw, verify the winners account details etc to slope off to the toilets for a w*nk.  I'm not sure whether this makes me lazy, smart or cynical.

i hope you would have wiped the seat when you were finished.

ttt for SelkirkAgain, the ultimate random selection. Although fair play he showed for this one apparently.

nil satis

hope i am just in time for this lol

would have loved to have come to this event, just to meet up with the people that have sold our accounts to an unforgiving software, hope the players that attend will put the views we all are concerned with , not just the freebies on offer,my only gripe is not being able to carry on our Dinkie v Donkie games something that is now lost from betfair to another site.

How did the 2 guys do that won the seats?

ddomo

U96_x

Oh sorry I see....yep it was a great night Da Vinci. I came 3rd when I really should of cruised through to the WSOPE seat.

Busted out in 50th last night but the FREE FOOD AND DRINK more than made up for it