Massive cheating going on

Apart from the obvious link with the names what about their play makes you think they are cheating.
FWIW the player urging you to report 'them' has 3 active accounts on here as well.

Waste of time reporting, bf do f all. Russians worst, passing chips in D2n games . I reposted nothing done, but im still not convinced

then it seems betfair have no ethics

birish - I'll ask you again what were 'they' doing that made you call 'them' cheats.

using rafael51 and rafael52 in the same game

even got to final table with both

LOL - Could be 2 m8s or anything - You can't call peep cheats just because they have similar names.

dont be silly he was laughing and telling all the players he is happy doing it

he has been at it all day today

i have been onto all three name today following them about and not one of them will report me WHY?

Why did you not take a screen shot of it then and e-mail it to betfair - plus as i've already said the player who constantly urged you to report it has 3 accounts - hypocritical b that he is.
Was raphael shipping chips at anytime?

yes he was playing himself at some points in the game

Bit of an 1diot then if he was boasting about it.
I'm assuming you phoned betfair to complain so bear in mind the person who took your call would have limited (if any) poker knowledge.
Always best to e-mail them using the facility under the 'contact us' heading.

dont worry i have and i also note down the games he plays

GL then. I still think the other player is a bit of a hypocrite.

surely nonnos the worst offenders

LOL at this happening and they're doing nothing about it.

You should open up an account on the 2+2 poker forum and start a thread there. You'll get listened to there and it will put the site to shame at the same time.

It's gonna be way worse when they get to Ongame, I hope everyone realises this

if somebody was cheating do you really think they would use similar poker alias?  Bit daft if you ask me!

oh yes he is using the same name three times on different isp Betfair are allowing these people to do it because it boosts profits I am writing to The Sun National newspaper and asking them to investigate what could be Millions of £ worth of scamming. If betfair got rid of all the scammers their profits would drop, so that makes them as quilty as the scammers. I am never going to stop with this I will not be cheated from my earnings, question is will you?

Just contacted the sun newspaper hopefully they will help me uncover this I have a plan

hasnt this been covered loads of times ?
what you will probably find is the players all playing at some sort of internet cafe in  europe
the cafe /bar owners have a dozen or so machines which they rent out to players and players cash in/out at the end of the session , thtas why they all have similar names

I am not having it, fraud is wrong and I will show it to everyone

what are you not having , do you not beleive me or do you think that what i am saying shouldent happen but does ?

mandylou, they are not that advanced imo!

Birish - please send me an email to prteam@betfair.com with as much informaiton as possible (screen shots, game information etc)and I will pass it on directly . Betfair takes collusion and cheating very seriously. Should they be found to have mutliple accounts we will take appropraite action and compensate accordingly. Whatever our decision is we will let you know the outcome.

I have already done that but Betfairs extremely experienced security team with your expensive tools and software say that he is not colluding. Betfair do not take it seriously because it is happening at nearly every table. Betfair have made it clear to me that in thier eyes this kind of behaviour is good and profitable. It is clear that betfair wont do anything so I'm going to make damn sure that I do. I am sick and tired of the big companies hiding behind thier money, and quietly cheating the little people.

birish - post your story in this thread. FairHaven can normally sort you out. I've heard first hand that the collusion team at betfair is a joke... they basically dont ban any players cos it more rake for the site!

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/betfair-poker-q-july-thread-827439/

I was playing in the tourney in question. There were actually 3 raphaels, a
raphael54 too. I have to say that I did not see any obvious collusion from the play, but it always makes me wonder. I made FT but finished out of the money, if I recall.

I have had some abuse before from one of the raphaels, cant remember which. I had the last laugh today though when I beat one at the HU stage of a $10 STT. He went all in having
made his straight on the river unaware that I had flopped a full house.

I would definitely support an independent investigation as to cheating at betfair, so good
luck with pursuing that Birish.

To be fair if they are anything like the nonnos accounts, I'd be happy enough to play on a table with eight of them.

What Mandylou says seems the most plausible answer. Was an MTT that birish encountered them in - would think if colluding they would stick to D2Ns.
Again, I repeat, the player constantly urging birish to report them uses 3 similar table names.
Scope his name birish and the three displayed are all the same person.
He only uses one at a time and is doing nothing wrong (other than having 3 active accounts) but to urge another player to report them was hypocritical to say the least.
As regards Betfair - what do you expect them to do if there is no concrete evidence to hang 'him' with (chip shipping, soft play and etc.).
Thinking about the guy boasting about it - he could have been winding you up in front of his m8s.
Anyways good luck with the Sun but keep your top on for the photo shoot.

dont tell me you lost

somebody once urinated on my garden wall. Well, that same day, i had a stinker of a letter penned to the local gazette detailing how appalled i was. They sent back a letter and told me to fcuk off and stop moaning on like a moany Michael.

dodnt worry they r very bad players

one of them called my allin preflop with 34..the other on the turn with a gut shot

so they are calling all ins with 34 and gutshots but you want them banned??

Put them on your christmas card list birish.

they know they know they know so beware beware beware

Bishy - can you stop posting on this forum. You make yourself look very stupid.

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was birish who started thread - Bishy only pointing out how bad they are