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Lenny the Guvnor
20 Jan 10 17:05
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Now to part 3. Made $310 in Staking part 2. Not life changing but happy to be turning a profit.

Part 3 i want to move up 1 level to 50nl.I would like to start with $1500 I think i don't need to double the starting bankroll though as the 50k hands i completed at 25nl the balance always fluctuated between a $400 range.

The split will remain 50/50 including**and any full tilt points i earn will be mine and you wont get a cut of the jacket i can probably buy with them. The hand amount will remain at 50k hands for the time being also.

Preference will be given to previous stakers.

Any questions please ask.

Cheers,

Ben
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Report hammer45 January 23, 2010 7:33 PM GMT
thats why its called gambling, maybe he will, maybe he wont.
Report JPJ January 23, 2010 10:17 PM GMT
I don't care if he loses. He's a good lad so i'd consider it akin to treating a mate to a night out.

:)
Report Keith A January 23, 2010 11:44 PM GMT
I'm with JPJ on this plus also good karma imo
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 24, 2010 12:06 AM GMT
Will do updates on here as otherwise i have to manually imput too many email addresses. Dont really care about any of the flids having a pop considering 99% of them cant beat the stakes im playing anyway.

All stats are according to poker tracker 3. Got the 60 day trial version.

Hands - 10,684

Profit - $41

Caked - $261
Report Gamal Abdul Nasser January 24, 2010 7:50 AM GMT
You would be better off taking your chances in the arcade on the 2 pence slot machines. Have you seen this guys stat's they are awful. All you are doing is harm giving this guy money, he has a gambling problem and needs help from GA not your pockets.
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 24, 2010 4:03 PM GMT
Gona be finishing this tonight guys early. After i expect 20k hands. Dont have the time to commit to it unfortunately and the way im running its prob a good idea
Report garybet. January 24, 2010 4:13 PM GMT
Lenny how do find out how much you have caked on FT?
Report hammer45 January 24, 2010 4:16 PM GMT
bethammer here, so am i right in thinking we are up? if so why so negative? seems like a decnt profit
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 24, 2010 4:22 PM GMT
SUMS IT UP! How has he got quads here? Superuser?

Full Tilt Poker Game #17870087321: Table Supercharger (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:17:23 ET - 2010/01/24
Seat 1: yorel85 ($88.90)
Seat 2: TonySuede ($49)
Seat 3: bastie69 ($71.05)
Seat 4: sfc21 ($63.95)
Seat 5: bazz2 ($11.20)
Seat 6: Bluk ($50)
TonySuede posts the small blind of $0.25
bastie69 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sfc21 [Js Jc]
sfc21 raises to $1.75
bazz2 folds
Bluk folds
yorel85 folds
TonySuede folds
bastie69 calls $1.25
*** FLOP *** [Qc Qs 7c]
bastie69 checks
sfc21 bets $2
bastie69 raises to $6.50
sfc21 calls $4.50
*** TURN *** [Qc Qs 7c] [Jh]
bastie69 bets $7.50
sfc21 raises to $15.50
bastie69 raises to $62.80, and is all in
sfc21 calls $40.20, and is all in
bastie69 shows [Qh Qd]
sfc21 shows [Js Jc]
Uncalled bet of $7.10 returned to bastie69
*** RIVER *** [Qc Qs 7c Jh] [3s]
bastie69 shows four of a kind, Queens
sfc21 shows a full house, Jacks full of Queens
bastie69 wins the pot ($125.15) with four of a kind, Queens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $128.15 | ake $3
Board: [Qc Qs 7c Jh 3s]
Seat 1: yorel85 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: TonySuede (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: bastie69 (big blind) showed [Qh Qd] and won ($125.15) with four of a kind, Queens
Seat 4: sfc21 showed [Js Jc] and lost with a full house, Jacks full of Queens
Seat 5: bazz2 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Bluk didn't bet (folded)
Report Baron von purple hoffan January 24, 2010 4:25 PM GMT
Ben, if you specify a certain ammount of hands to be played at the beginning of staking, then you should see it through.

You've done well these last few weeks but you won't have a hope in hell of getting staked again with that attitude.
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 24, 2010 4:26 PM GMT
Probs about -$100 at the mo but cakeback will cover that loss.

Just dont feel like playing, Wont play well anyway when im $400 below EV
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 24, 2010 4:28 PM GMT
Im under obligation to keep playing if im losing, but im not, so i do what i want. You aint the one sat here playing for hours making nada down over $600 below EV since the first one.
Report Baron von purple hoffan January 24, 2010 4:30 PM GMT
I know i'm not, but you know that you can go 1000s of hands without making a bean, thats what grinding is all about.
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 24, 2010 4:35 PM GMT
Unfortunately i value my life more than sitting behind my screen making not enough money to justify it.
Report .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ ><((((º> January 24, 2010 4:47 PM GMT
can i put my name down to be first in the queue to stake you for Staking Part 4
Report JPJ January 24, 2010 4:51 PM GMT
Do whatever you want mate. I'll always stake you if needed.

:)
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 24, 2010 5:16 PM GMT
There wont be a staking 4 in the near future as i have been taken on by bad beat. Will finish now as dont think im playing very well and dont wana start donking.

Final totals

hands - 13,843 (i think this is wrong because poker tracker 3 is missing hands from import)

profit - $50.05 (again must be wrong because balance is $1,484 showing a $16 loss)

caked - $335.

Will start sending payments now to those who sent via**. Those who sent by other means can you let me know how to xfer to you, i could withdraw to my bank then send bank xfers but you will lose some money on exc rate...

Cakeback will be in on Friday and your %s of the $100 or so cake we will get will be sent then. will be about $5 for every 10% you have lol.

Thanks again for the stake and sorry i couldnt finish it out.
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 24, 2010 5:26 PM GMT
payments sent to those with** accounts.
Report bethammer January 24, 2010 5:35 PM GMT
no problem, good luck with bad beat.
Report 15Stone10Lbs January 24, 2010 5:58 PM GMT
u ran into a hand, a day off, recharge and ur back in the game....
Report Villiers January 24, 2010 6:42 PM GMT
Cheers BEN. received! Good luck in the future

Coops
Report Hull city January 24, 2010 6:51 PM GMT
chrs m8

keep the cake,i expect to see it spun up to millllllions by febuary! ;)

gl m8 with badbeat
Report Escapee January 24, 2010 9:31 PM GMT
Hey Lenny the Guvnor, I've seen some of the hands you've posted on these threads....Don't take this the wrong way, but you sure have big leaks that if you plugged up just a couple of them it would make a BIG difference to your P/L bottom line.

You seem to put in some long hours judging by the number of hands you play, you should definitely invest some of that time trying to plug some of your leaks, it would be well worth it in the long run.

You should get a mentor or something, As putting in all that grind is such a waste if you're going leak it all out again in a few spots.
Report aristonandon January 24, 2010 9:34 PM GMT
hes joined badbeat so will get some metoring now and help with plugging any leaks he may have
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 24, 2010 9:49 PM GMT
Duno if you are fishing escapee but i have identified my leaks already thanks and none of them involve any of the hands i have posted. Out of interest what stakes do you play and what is your winrate?
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 24, 2010 9:52 PM GMT
And how exactly can you say i have big leaks looking at 4 hands?
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 24, 2010 9:52 PM GMT
And yeh i have taken offence cos im not sure if you have a clue what you are talking about.
Report banking January 24, 2010 9:55 PM GMT
yeh escapee, lenny has no leaks watsoever why would u suggest such a stupid thing, do u not know hes the greatest player ever.
oh yh
but hes
broke :-( and cant beat nl20
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 24, 2010 9:58 PM GMT
Just dont uite understand how you can work out major leaks from 4 hands?
Report banking January 24, 2010 10:03 PM GMT
well u need staking and you cant beat nl20, thats enuff evidence of major leaks.
u must run super bad.
Ur obviously to much of a c unt to take any form of constructive criticism and too much of a degenerate useless poker player who cant admit his beat.
Report Horace plays Poker January 24, 2010 10:12 PM GMT
from what I can gather - he has made a profit on Staking 1, 2 and 3. Yet still idiots post with abuse.
Report Blue and White army January 24, 2010 10:24 PM GMT
LTG.
I've followed your threads with interest.
Could I say that you obviously have done more with poker than I have ever done and more than likely will ever do.
However, I'm sure you realise that even low NL is a lot harder to beat now than it was 3 or 4 years ago.
I used to make 4 to 5k a year (playing no more than two tables) but now find it difficult to clear 2k a year even with cake.
The difference being is that I have a full time job so anything else is a bonus so I'm no reliant on it.
Would it not be better if you became a profitable recreational player rather than a player whos' "life depended on it"?
I wish you all the best in what you decide/do.....gl and all the best
Report banking January 24, 2010 10:29 PM GMT
Lenny the Guvnor 07 Jan 02:47
Decided to call it a day, pretty fed up on the constant sniping on here. I know i should blank it but its hard to not think about it when you are losing. Playing pretty horrendously at the moment aswell. Very sorry guys, final total is crap compared to my peak but i guess you didnt lose anything. Have shipped all your money back on stars let me know you have recieved.

Starting bank $650

Previous bank $783

Current bank $686

Total stts played - 1,043

Total cash hands played - 11,021

yes he made profit
$36 at 50/50 = $18 not bad for nearly a months work hey.

Im not even hating on the guy, because really there is nothing to hate on, but this arrogant pr1ck cant even take a little constructive critcism. Escapee tried to make a genuine point and helping word and he comes back with i know my leaks whats ur winrate.
WTF
who the fck is he to ask some1 on here for there winrate when they are trying to help him. Even if escapee is a losing (which i dont know) his point was still valid, when you publicly come on a forum asking/beginng for help and the people offer u help be fking gratefull.
Report banking January 24, 2010 10:30 PM GMT
asking/begging*
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 24, 2010 10:40 PM GMT
banking if you ever want a slap buddy please get in touch. Cheers

B&W - I've said already its tough to beat these low levels. Never said i was gona make everyone rich, was more of a challenge/something to do/make some money rather than watching loose women type of thing.
Report banking January 24, 2010 10:43 PM GMT
Im in west end nearly every other weekend, dunno where u from but if ur ever there of a weekend id be more than happy to come meet ya.
Be warned u better bring a fk ing army with u tho.
Report Blue and White army January 24, 2010 10:57 PM GMT
Anything's better than watching loose women.....
You know you're foooked when you're watching Jeremy Kyle re-runs on ITV2!
GL and all the best .
Report Annapurna January 25, 2010 7:40 AM GMT
If you can't beat low levels then you won't be able to beat higher levels it doesn't get easier as you move up. It seems as though you have quit both challnges pretty easily and have failed in both. You are being staked in because you are playing in low level easy cash games that are simple to win in even if you are running below ev. Everybody loses at some stages and has bad runs i done £4k over xmas period and was actually not 2 pi$$ed off because i was running so horrific and could have been much worse but didn't tilt, still couple of weeks later i was through the worst of it and have that all back and more now. If you want to play poker you have to be patient and grind through it, saying you have a life and don't want to play poker? why were you grinding $1 sit n gos?
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 27, 2010 2:38 PM GMT
money shipped blue eyes. Can you confirm you recieved?
Report Mc Moonbeam January 27, 2010 4:54 PM GMT
he made 75k .. remember

all we really care about is how he**ed that away ;)
Report HYPE January 27, 2010 5:02 PM GMT
I've worked it out - it was so you could play enough hands to get sponsored by Bad Beat (cunning plan if you ask me)
Report joffy January 27, 2010 5:09 PM GMT
Slander surely not. I thought that within four minutes of last hand lol

But
Three goes, three returned profits and all stakers are happy so fair play to him and good luck with badbeat mate.
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 27, 2010 11:18 PM GMT
Was abs nothing to do with it. Will get ariston to back me up on this. He suggested it during staking part 3 and i gave it a go.
Report Blue eyes January 28, 2010 7:44 AM GMT
Received. Cheers.
Report aristonandon January 28, 2010 8:11 AM GMT
he didnt need to play enough hands to get on with badbeat because i suggested it and arranged it for him when he started the 3rd staking thread. why should he playing huge volume for pennies when if he can do it with mentoring he will earn a proper wage and be rolled properly.

playing for badbeat is a wage because its a job at the end of the day and they will also make sure he has some discipline and mentoring and stuff. Im sure many other off here will confirm I have got them taken on by badbeat over the years and some are even still with them.
Report azertyioup January 28, 2010 10:19 AM GMT
Can I join bad beat pls?
Report aristonandon January 28, 2010 12:07 PM GMT
if you are a winning player who can follow rules/instructions yes
Report azertyioup January 28, 2010 12:27 PM GMT
How does it work?

I only show profit at Omaha so don't play Texas Hold 'em any more. Is that ok?
Report aristonandon January 28, 2010 12:32 PM GMT
they sponsor all types of players. you play with their money under one of their mentors.

profit and cake split 50/50. they set your bankroll and control it for you to help those players who are good with no/little discipline (ie me ben and those type of players).

they do look for full time players though who play a minimum of x hands per week. not players who just play for a few hours here and there. think they look for minimum of 5000 hands per week but not certain.

russell cawley at hot mail dot com if you want me to give you address for application form/interview etc.
Report azertyioup January 28, 2010 12:50 PM GMT
Thanks I might do that.

Reading Ben's and others posts I'm not sure that I play enough hands. I don't have any tracking software. How would I find out (I mainly use 365).
Report aristonandon January 28, 2010 1:04 PM GMT
depends how many hours you play and how many tables. I can play 5000+ hands in a day if im in the mood

if you two table omaha at 80 hands per hour you would need to play 20 hours a week to do 3000 hands obviously. if you 6 or 12 tables then its not too hard of course.
Report azertyioup January 28, 2010 1:22 PM GMT
I've got your e-mail. Thanks for the info. I will probably enquire about it, but it looks like I might fall short on the number of hands I play. I don't play full-time and rarely multi-table. Thanks again.
Report Annapurna January 28, 2010 2:03 PM GMT
I can see some people being keen on the idea of bad beat. Like if you have a lot of things to pay mortage, bills etc. But if you are a good player and winning why on earth would you ever play and give away half your profits. If you can't play with confidence and believe in yourself imo you will never be a winning player anyway.
Report FFsmd January 28, 2010 2:14 PM GMT
Their are grt advantages to being staked.You mayb crushing your 50/1 game or 1/2 game, but the bankroll required to play 25$/50$ is years away,a good staking site has the bankroll to move you quickly up though the games, for a winning player its better to crush $10/$20 and get half than crush 1/2 and get it all.
Report azertyioup January 28, 2010 2:33 PM GMT
FFsmd hits the nail on the head.

I'm a regular $1/$2, $2/$4 omaha player on 365. Sometimes I dabble in $3/$6, $5/$10, but I don't realistically have the bankroll to attack these games and higher due to my outgoings and limited hours that i'm able to play. Have once had a short successful period playing $25/$50, but mentally burnt myself out where I wasn't used to having $5,000 sitting in front of me at the table.
Report Dooberama January 28, 2010 9:17 PM GMT
I am not entirely convinced, there is a world of difference between $2.5/$5 and $10/$20. Someone crushing $2.5/5 for 5 poker tracker BBs/100 hands may well be variance only at $10/$20. I'd pretty much say your bankroll keeps pace with your talent most of the time. The really good ones shoot up the levels with or without badbeat.

I think badbeat is just for players with bad discipline, those who have spent their rolls, and/or possibly training. Though I'd be surprised if it is the best for the latter.

FWIW I don't think it is as easy to walk away from badbeat staking when you are winning.
Report azertyioup January 28, 2010 10:16 PM GMT
I can only speak from my own circumstance.

Anyone that's in a long-term relationship with someone that doesn't approve of you playing poker (most women I would have thought) will have limited time to dedicate towards poker and has to take every penny they have seriously.

I know that if I was staked that would take a lot of pressure away. I doubt it would change my game much though. I'm quite a solid, minimal risk player and wouldn't loosen my game up just because I was playing with someone elses money.
Report engy-carlisle January 29, 2010 11:10 AM GMT
FWIW I don't think it is as easy to walk away from badbeat staking when you are winning


what do you mean by that bit doobs?
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 29, 2010 1:52 PM GMT
**payments have been sent for staking part 2 and 3.

Staking Part 2 - $14/10%

Staking part 3 - $5/10%
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 29, 2010 1:54 PM GMT
Those who dont have full tilt accounts can you let me know how to get the money to you....Those in part 3 who have 10%, i can just owe you a pint or something...lol
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 29, 2010 2:02 PM GMT
Think ive sent to everyone who was owed. If you havent recieved a payment let me know. Think theres another $14 to pay out by my calculations so i think i have missed someone!
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 29, 2010 2:03 PM GMT
And horace yours will be sent via bank xfer probably around wednesday.
Report Horace plays Poker January 29, 2010 2:20 PM GMT
okey dokey
Report charwell. January 29, 2010 3:50 PM GMT
Received my 10% profit - better than the bank so thanks and well played. Good luck with your latest venture.
Report The Ichtyologist January 29, 2010 4:06 PM GMT
Received with thanks.
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 30, 2010 4:43 AM GMT
had a drunken spin up. Anyone want** monry for a bank xfer? Will give a few $ xtra a) cos im hammered and b) cos i want a favour. Post if interested, few hundred thats all.
Report Gamal Abdul Nasser January 30, 2010 4:16 PM GMT
So you asked people to stake you on the basis that you would complete a certain amount of hands etc you get a better offer and just dump the backers who was there for you in the first place?

Class at its best. No doubt you wont last long on badbeat either you cant beat any stakes. High or Low you break even at very best then lose it all on tilt.

Pathetic loser
Report hammer45 January 30, 2010 5:30 PM GMT
got mine, ty and gl
Report JPJ January 30, 2010 6:59 PM GMT
Received thanks Ben.

Well done and good luck with Bad Beat.

:)
Report Mc Moonbeam January 30, 2010 8:35 PM GMT
Think theres another $14 to pay out by my calculations so i think i have missed someone!

Genuine ROFLMFAO
Report Mc Moonbeam January 30, 2010 8:41 PM GMT
what a waste of ink
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 31, 2010 1:31 PM GMT
Made a profit in all 3 cheers gamal. U **ing prik
Report Gamal Abdul Nasser January 31, 2010 1:51 PM GMT
$10 profit for 2 months work well played loser
Report Horace plays Poker January 31, 2010 5:42 PM GMT
Gamal - why are you getting involved? I assume you didnt stake - so why would you post abuse? What's the point?
Report Dooberama January 31, 2010 6:27 PM GMT
Gamal obviously just trolling, he posted abuse on a few threads. Nobody falls for that anymore?
Report banking January 31, 2010 7:54 PM GMT
Gamal is right, this lenny prik plays all day for pennys then comes on here talking like he the dogs** Anytime some1 offers any advice he shoots them down straight away goin on like he knows everything already and if he has no other come back he asks them for there stats. I saw people give him abuse from the start and thought how unfair it was untill he showed himself to be a complete no good k unt.
As for people saying if you aint staked him then why comment, well its pretty obvious isnt it that you post on a public forum designed for people to post there opinions then thats what your gonna get.
shouldnt eat yellow snow
dont** in the wind
Peasents dont beg for staking on open forums if your not willing to listen to peoples comments.
Report Mc Moonbeam January 31, 2010 8:00 PM GMT
... but he's ten times the player of most of us
Report Gamal Abdul Nasser February 1, 2010 5:07 PM GMT
10 times the player lol can't even beat the micro stakes
Report Scrappy Doo February 1, 2010 6:07 PM GMT
Badbeat - does what it says on the tin. They roll you and pay you 50% of the profit.

I joined badbeat throug Aristons thread on here and was looking to move up some levels. Russ left a couple of weeks after i started and no one from Badbeat seemed to fill the void.

When i joined they set limits you had to reach in the first three months. i.e 100 dollars a day make 1k in month 1 etc. I sailed through this playing stts and mtts on Betfair, at the end of month three i was on 500 a day and set a target of 2.5k.

Once quailfied i became a trader and they insisted i played cash. I had never played cash tables before and was not use to swings etc and this led to me quitting/stroke being pushed within four months of becoming a trader. At the same time i was glad to get out, my game was now fkd and ity took me six months to get back to winning ways. I now play stts and mtts for fun and make a nice second income from this.

I know im not the only one who feels like this having spoke to some other members. If they had rolled me on mtts/stts we would have all made money!!!

Im not saying Badbeat is a bad thing , what i am saying is that it dont think its the answer to everything.

Another annoying aspect was being mentored in your fortnightly one hr slot and the mentor was 4 tabling at the same time and missed all your "questionable hands"

p.s spelling and grammar not my strong points.
Report Gamal Abdul Nasser February 1, 2010 8:17 PM GMT
How much did the stakers make each again?
Report aristonandon February 1, 2010 9:04 PM GMT
sorry about that scrappy but i left a couple of years ago after having a fallout over a few things like the ones you mentioned. have been back with them for a long time since and they now do roll players for stts and mtts as well. I no longer actively recruit for them though as I got nothing out of it apart from headaches. When mentoring (which is till do a bit of) I dont play though because as you rightly say its impossible to critique or help someones game while playing yourself. A few of the ones who joined at the same time as you are still with them and I know one of them now plays on 20k a day stoploss (he started on 200 i think) so progress has been made with some.
Report aristonandon February 1, 2010 9:04 PM GMT
sorry about that scrappy but i left a couple of years ago after having a fallout over a few things like the ones you mentioned. have been back with them for a long time since and they now do roll players for stts and mtts as well. I no longer actively recruit for them though as I got nothing out of it apart from headaches. When mentoring (which is till do a bit of) I dont play though because as you rightly say its impossible to critique or help someones game while playing yourself. A few of the ones who joined at the same time as you are still with them and I know one of them now plays on 20k a day stoploss (he started on 200 i think) so progress has been made with some.
Report Jack Black February 2, 2010 1:55 AM GMT
Must admit as much as i wanted to give Ben a slap, i used to want to give Russ one more!!

I had one or two opportunities once or twice at blackpool to sort Ariston and on out, but if i am honest i actually found him a thourghly nice bloke, so therefore i have let him off.

Ben on the other hand, i cannot wait to level, so Benny Big Boy
next time you are in the North West let me know for a meet!!!

its about time someone woke you up, and i am the man for the job so lets get it on you begging untrustworthy fag, god i cant stand gingers

Post with meet up details and if there enough interest
maybe we can sell one or two tickets, i would be up for that.

get in touch soon gingernut

regards

Jack
Report engy-carlisle February 2, 2010 10:08 AM GMT
lol say what you really mean jack. name or is it another bigdog?
Report Gamal Abdul Nasser February 2, 2010 10:50 AM GMT
Well said jack, he wont reply on here because he wants this thread to die out of sheer embarrassment.
Report Lenny the Guvnor February 2, 2010 11:05 AM GMT
Why you wana give me a slap?

As you know who i am maybe you can enlighten me as to who you are?

yawnnnnn no more time for pussyy keyboard warriors zzzzzzzz
Report Gamal Abdul Nasser February 3, 2010 1:30 PM GMT
Shut up ginge
Report banking February 3, 2010 6:50 PM GMT
This begging tramp Lenny is such a hypocrite

Lenny the Guvnor 02 Feb 12:05
Why you wana give me a slap?

As you know who i am maybe you can enlighten me as to who you are?

yawnnnnn no more time for pussyy keyboard warriors zzzzzzzz

Lenny the Guvnor 24 Jan 23:40
banking if you ever want a slap buddy please get in touch. Cheers

You have the cheek to come on here talking about keyboard warriors after you already said u was gonna slap me then pretend like u never saw my replies.
I already let you know where i am once a week and you failed to even acknowledge it cos your a lil pu55y.
u broke, begging ginger coward.
Report Horace plays Poker February 3, 2010 8:30 PM GMT
Banking - I think you have serious anger management issues
Report azertyioup February 3, 2010 9:04 PM GMT
It's clear to see who's inthe right and who's in the wrong here.
Report Gamal Abdul Nasser February 3, 2010 11:21 PM GMT
Ginger clearly has anger management problems
Report stalingrad February 3, 2010 11:42 PM GMT
Ive known 6 yr olds more grown up than u lot
Report azertyioup February 4, 2010 10:20 AM GMT
I think the moral of the story is you shouldn't beg money off of people to gamble.

No different to giving money to a bloke on the street who will get heroin with it.
Report Gamal Abdul Nasser February 4, 2010 12:13 PM GMT
The morale of the story is you shouldn't loan money to LOSING gamblers, especially ginger ones.
Report Yes To The Rain February 5, 2010 3:15 PM GMT
Gamal, You THINK Lik a CAMAL. Go Back TO YOur
Report Yes To The Rain February 5, 2010 3:16 PM GMT
c u ntry
Report Gamal Abdul Nasser February 5, 2010 10:55 PM GMT
At least we don't have gingers here
Report Yes To The Rain February 6, 2010 1:56 PM GMT
yes he are Gamal
Report Yes To The Rain February 6, 2010 1:58 PM GMT
- and someone they will give you slap in one day. be cause you are stupit hole
Report Yes To The Rain February 6, 2010 2:03 PM GMT
you are the ones who he will suffers one day
Gamal [b]
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