Staking Part 3

thats why its called gambling, maybe he will, maybe he wont.

I don't care if he loses. He's a good lad so i'd consider it akin to treating a mate to a night out.

:)

I'm with JPJ on this plus also good karma imo

Will do updates on here as otherwise i have to manually imput too many email addresses. Dont really care about any of the flids having a pop considering 99% of them cant beat the stakes im playing anyway.

All stats are according to poker tracker 3. Got the 60 day trial version.

Hands - 10,684

Profit - $41

Caked - $261

You would be better off taking your chances in the arcade on the 2 pence slot machines. Have you seen this guys stat's they are awful. All you are doing is harm giving this guy money, he has a gambling problem and needs help from GA not your pockets.

Gona be finishing this tonight guys early. After i expect 20k hands. Dont have the time to commit to it unfortunately and the way im running its prob a good idea

Lenny how do find out how much you have caked on FT?

bethammer here, so am i right in thinking we are up? if so why so negative? seems like a decnt profit

SUMS IT UP! How has he got quads here? Superuser?

Full Tilt Poker Game #17870087321: Table Supercharger (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:17:23 ET - 2010/01/24
Seat 1: yorel85 ($88.90)
Seat 2: TonySuede ($49)
Seat 3: bastie69 ($71.05)
Seat 4: sfc21 ($63.95)
Seat 5: bazz2 ($11.20)
Seat 6: Bluk ($50)
TonySuede posts the small blind of $0.25
bastie69 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sfc21 [Js Jc]
sfc21 raises to $1.75
bazz2 folds
Bluk folds
yorel85 folds
TonySuede folds
bastie69 calls $1.25
*** FLOP *** [Qc Qs 7c]
bastie69 checks
sfc21 bets $2
bastie69 raises to $6.50
sfc21 calls $4.50
*** TURN *** [Qc Qs 7c] [Jh]
bastie69 bets $7.50
sfc21 raises to $15.50
bastie69 raises to $62.80, and is all in
sfc21 calls $40.20, and is all in
bastie69 shows [Qh Qd]
sfc21 shows [Js Jc]
Uncalled bet of $7.10 returned to bastie69
*** RIVER *** [Qc Qs 7c Jh] [3s]
bastie69 shows four of a kind, Queens
sfc21 shows a full house, Jacks full of Queens
bastie69 wins the pot ($125.15) with four of a kind, Queens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $128.15 | ake $3
Board: [Qc Qs 7c Jh 3s]
Seat 1: yorel85 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: TonySuede (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: bastie69 (big blind) showed [Qh Qd] and won ($125.15) with four of a kind, Queens
Seat 4: sfc21 showed [Js Jc] and lost with a full house, Jacks full of Queens
Seat 5: bazz2 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Bluk didn't bet (folded)

Ben, if you specify a certain ammount of hands to be played at the beginning of staking, then you should see it through.

You've done well these last few weeks but you won't have a hope in hell of getting staked again with that attitude.

Probs about -$100 at the mo but cakeback will cover that loss.

Just dont feel like playing, Wont play well anyway when im $400 below EV

Im under obligation to keep playing if im losing, but im not, so i do what i want. You aint the one sat here playing for hours making nada down over $600 below EV since the first one.

I know i'm not, but you know that you can go 1000s of hands without making a bean, thats what grinding is all about.

Unfortunately i value my life more than sitting behind my screen making not enough money to justify it.

can i put my name down to be first in the queue to stake you for Staking Part 4

Do whatever you want mate. I'll always stake you if needed.

:)

There wont be a staking 4 in the near future as i have been taken on by bad beat. Will finish now as dont think im playing very well and dont wana start donking.

Final totals

hands - 13,843 (i think this is wrong because poker tracker 3 is missing hands from import)

profit - $50.05 (again must be wrong because balance is $1,484 showing a $16 loss)

caked - $335.

Will start sending payments now to those who sent via**. Those who sent by other means can you let me know how to xfer to you, i could withdraw to my bank then send bank xfers but you will lose some money on exc rate...

Cakeback will be in on Friday and your %s of the $100 or so cake we will get will be sent then. will be about $5 for every 10% you have lol.

Thanks again for the stake and sorry i couldnt finish it out.

payments sent to those with** accounts.

no problem, good luck with bad beat.

u ran into a hand, a day off, recharge and ur back in the game....

Cheers BEN. received! Good luck in the future

Coops

chrs m8

keep the cake,i expect to see it spun up to millllllions by febuary! ;)

gl m8 with badbeat

Hey Lenny the Guvnor, I've seen some of the hands you've posted on these threads....Don't take this the wrong way, but you sure have big leaks that if you plugged up just a couple of them it would make a BIG difference to your P/L bottom line.

You seem to put in some long hours judging by the number of hands you play, you should definitely invest some of that time trying to plug some of your leaks, it would be well worth it in the long run.

You should get a mentor or something, As putting in all that grind is such a waste if you're going leak it all out again in a few spots.

hes joined badbeat so will get some metoring now and help with plugging any leaks he may have

Duno if you are fishing escapee but i have identified my leaks already thanks and none of them involve any of the hands i have posted. Out of interest what stakes do you play and what is your winrate?

And how exactly can you say i have big leaks looking at 4 hands?

And yeh i have taken offence cos im not sure if you have a clue what you are talking about.

yeh escapee, lenny has no leaks watsoever why would u suggest such a stupid thing, do u not know hes the greatest player ever.
oh yh
but hes
broke :-( and cant beat nl20

Just dont uite understand how you can work out major leaks from 4 hands?

well u need staking and you cant beat nl20, thats enuff evidence of major leaks.
u must run super bad.
Ur obviously to much of a c unt to take any form of constructive criticism and too much of a degenerate useless poker player who cant admit his beat.

from what I can gather - he has made a profit on Staking 1, 2 and 3. Yet still idiots post with abuse.

LTG.
I've followed your threads with interest.
Could I say that you obviously have done more with poker than I have ever done and more than likely will ever do.
However, I'm sure you realise that even low NL is a lot harder to beat now than it was 3 or 4 years ago.
I used to make 4 to 5k a year (playing no more than two tables) but now find it difficult to clear 2k a year even with cake.
The difference being is that I have a full time job so anything else is a bonus so I'm no reliant on it.
Would it not be better if you became a profitable recreational player rather than a player whos' "life depended on it"?
I wish you all the best in what you decide/do.....gl and all the best

Lenny the Guvnor 07 Jan 02:47
Decided to call it a day, pretty fed up on the constant sniping on here. I know i should blank it but its hard to not think about it when you are losing. Playing pretty horrendously at the moment aswell. Very sorry guys, final total is crap compared to my peak but i guess you didnt lose anything. Have shipped all your money back on stars let me know you have recieved.

Starting bank $650

Previous bank $783

Current bank $686

Total stts played - 1,043

Total cash hands played - 11,021

yes he made profit
$36 at 50/50 = $18 not bad for nearly a months work hey.

Im not even hating on the guy, because really there is nothing to hate on, but this arrogant pr1ck cant even take a little constructive critcism. Escapee tried to make a genuine point and helping word and he comes back with i know my leaks whats ur winrate.
WTF
who the fck is he to ask some1 on here for there winrate when they are trying to help him. Even if escapee is a losing (which i dont know) his point was still valid, when you publicly come on a forum asking/beginng for help and the people offer u help be fking gratefull.

asking/begging*

banking if you ever want a slap buddy please get in touch. Cheers

B&W - I've said already its tough to beat these low levels. Never said i was gona make everyone rich, was more of a challenge/something to do/make some money rather than watching loose women type of thing.

Im in west end nearly every other weekend, dunno where u from but if ur ever there of a weekend id be more than happy to come meet ya.
Be warned u better bring a fk ing army with u tho.

Anything's better than watching loose women.....
You know you're foooked when you're watching Jeremy Kyle re-runs on ITV2!
GL and all the best .

If you can't beat low levels then you won't be able to beat higher levels it doesn't get easier as you move up. It seems as though you have quit both challnges pretty easily and have failed in both. You are being staked in because you are playing in low level easy cash games that are simple to win in even if you are running below ev. Everybody loses at some stages and has bad runs i done £4k over xmas period and was actually not 2 pi$$ed off because i was running so horrific and could have been much worse but didn't tilt, still couple of weeks later i was through the worst of it and have that all back and more now. If you want to play poker you have to be patient and grind through it, saying you have a life and don't want to play poker? why were you grinding $1 sit n gos?

money shipped blue eyes. Can you confirm you recieved?

he made 75k .. remember

all we really care about is how he**ed that away ;)

I've worked it out - it was so you could play enough hands to get sponsored by Bad Beat (cunning plan if you ask me)

Slander surely not. I thought that within four minutes of last hand lol

But
Three goes, three returned profits and all stakers are happy so fair play to him and good luck with badbeat mate.

Was abs nothing to do with it. Will get ariston to back me up on this. He suggested it during staking part 3 and i gave it a go.

Received. Cheers.

he didnt need to play enough hands to get on with badbeat because i suggested it and arranged it for him when he started the 3rd staking thread. why should he playing huge volume for pennies when if he can do it with mentoring he will earn a proper wage and be rolled properly.

playing for badbeat is a wage because its a job at the end of the day and they will also make sure he has some discipline and mentoring and stuff. Im sure many other off here will confirm I have got them taken on by badbeat over the years and some are even still with them.

Can I join bad beat pls?

if you are a winning player who can follow rules/instructions yes

How does it work?

I only show profit at Omaha so don't play Texas Hold 'em any more. Is that ok?

they sponsor all types of players. you play with their money under one of their mentors.

profit and cake split 50/50. they set your bankroll and control it for you to help those players who are good with no/little discipline (ie me ben and those type of players).

they do look for full time players though who play a minimum of x hands per week. not players who just play for a few hours here and there. think they look for minimum of 5000 hands per week but not certain.

russell cawley at hot mail dot com if you want me to give you address for application form/interview etc.

Thanks I might do that.

Reading Ben's and others posts I'm not sure that I play enough hands. I don't have any tracking software. How would I find out (I mainly use 365).

depends how many hours you play and how many tables. I can play 5000+ hands in a day if im in the mood

if you two table omaha at 80 hands per hour you would need to play 20 hours a week to do 3000 hands obviously. if you 6 or 12 tables then its not too hard of course.

I've got your e-mail. Thanks for the info. I will probably enquire about it, but it looks like I might fall short on the number of hands I play. I don't play full-time and rarely multi-table. Thanks again.

I can see some people being keen on the idea of bad beat. Like if you have a lot of things to pay mortage, bills etc. But if you are a good player and winning why on earth would you ever play and give away half your profits. If you can't play with confidence and believe in yourself imo you will never be a winning player anyway.

Their are grt advantages to being staked.You mayb crushing your 50/1 game or 1/2 game, but the bankroll required to play 25$/50$ is years away,a good staking site has the bankroll to move you quickly up though the games, for a winning player its better to crush $10/$20 and get half than crush 1/2 and get it all.

FFsmd hits the nail on the head.

I'm a regular $1/$2, $2/$4 omaha player on 365. Sometimes I dabble in $3/$6, $5/$10, but I don't realistically have the bankroll to attack these games and higher due to my outgoings and limited hours that i'm able to play. Have once had a short successful period playing $25/$50, but mentally burnt myself out where I wasn't used to having $5,000 sitting in front of me at the table.

I am not entirely convinced, there is a world of difference between $2.5/$5 and $10/$20. Someone crushing $2.5/5 for 5 poker tracker BBs/100 hands may well be variance only at $10/$20. I'd pretty much say your bankroll keeps pace with your talent most of the time. The really good ones shoot up the levels with or without badbeat.

I think badbeat is just for players with bad discipline, those who have spent their rolls, and/or possibly training. Though I'd be surprised if it is the best for the latter.

FWIW I don't think it is as easy to walk away from badbeat staking when you are winning.

I can only speak from my own circumstance.

Anyone that's in a long-term relationship with someone that doesn't approve of you playing poker (most women I would have thought) will have limited time to dedicate towards poker and has to take every penny they have seriously.

I know that if I was staked that would take a lot of pressure away. I doubt it would change my game much though. I'm quite a solid, minimal risk player and wouldn't loosen my game up just because I was playing with someone elses money.

FWIW I don't think it is as easy to walk away from badbeat staking when you are winning


what do you mean by that bit doobs?

**payments have been sent for staking part 2 and 3.

Staking Part 2 - $14/10%

Staking part 3 - $5/10%

Those who dont have full tilt accounts can you let me know how to get the money to you....Those in part 3 who have 10%, i can just owe you a pint or something...lol

Think ive sent to everyone who was owed. If you havent recieved a payment let me know. Think theres another $14 to pay out by my calculations so i think i have missed someone!

And horace yours will be sent via bank xfer probably around wednesday.

okey dokey

Received my 10% profit - better than the bank so thanks and well played. Good luck with your latest venture.

Received with thanks.

had a drunken spin up. Anyone want** monry for a bank xfer? Will give a few $ xtra a) cos im hammered and b) cos i want a favour. Post if interested, few hundred thats all.

So you asked people to stake you on the basis that you would complete a certain amount of hands etc you get a better offer and just dump the backers who was there for you in the first place?

Class at its best. No doubt you wont last long on badbeat either you cant beat any stakes. High or Low you break even at very best then lose it all on tilt.

Pathetic loser

got mine, ty and gl

Received thanks Ben.

Well done and good luck with Bad Beat.

:)

Think theres another $14 to pay out by my calculations so i think i have missed someone!

Genuine ROFLMFAO

what a waste of ink

Made a profit in all 3 cheers gamal. U **ing prik

$10 profit for 2 months work well played loser

Gamal - why are you getting involved? I assume you didnt stake - so why would you post abuse? What's the point?

Gamal obviously just trolling, he posted abuse on a few threads. Nobody falls for that anymore?

Gamal is right, this lenny prik plays all day for pennys then comes on here talking like he the dogs** Anytime some1 offers any advice he shoots them down straight away goin on like he knows everything already and if he has no other come back he asks them for there stats. I saw people give him abuse from the start and thought how unfair it was untill he showed himself to be a complete no good k unt.
As for people saying if you aint staked him then why comment, well its pretty obvious isnt it that you post on a public forum designed for people to post there opinions then thats what your gonna get.
shouldnt eat yellow snow
dont** in the wind
Peasents dont beg for staking on open forums if your not willing to listen to peoples comments.

... but he's ten times the player of most of us

10 times the player lol can't even beat the micro stakes

Badbeat - does what it says on the tin. They roll you and pay you 50% of the profit.

I joined badbeat throug Aristons thread on here and was looking to move up some levels. Russ left a couple of weeks after i started and no one from Badbeat seemed to fill the void.

When i joined they set limits you had to reach in the first three months. i.e 100 dollars a day make 1k in month 1 etc. I sailed through this playing stts and mtts on Betfair, at the end of month three i was on 500 a day and set a target of 2.5k.

Once quailfied i became a trader and they insisted i played cash. I had never played cash tables before and was not use to swings etc and this led to me quitting/stroke being pushed within four months of becoming a trader. At the same time i was glad to get out, my game was now fkd and ity took me six months to get back to winning ways. I now play stts and mtts for fun and make a nice second income from this.

I know im not the only one who feels like this having spoke to some other members. If they had rolled me on mtts/stts we would have all made money!!!

Im not saying Badbeat is a bad thing , what i am saying is that it dont think its the answer to everything.

Another annoying aspect was being mentored in your fortnightly one hr slot and the mentor was 4 tabling at the same time and missed all your "questionable hands"

p.s spelling and grammar not my strong points.

How much did the stakers make each again?

sorry about that scrappy but i left a couple of years ago after having a fallout over a few things like the ones you mentioned. have been back with them for a long time since and they now do roll players for stts and mtts as well. I no longer actively recruit for them though as I got nothing out of it apart from headaches. When mentoring (which is till do a bit of) I dont play though because as you rightly say its impossible to critique or help someones game while playing yourself. A few of the ones who joined at the same time as you are still with them and I know one of them now plays on 20k a day stoploss (he started on 200 i think) so progress has been made with some.

sorry about that scrappy but i left a couple of years ago after having a fallout over a few things like the ones you mentioned. have been back with them for a long time since and they now do roll players for stts and mtts as well. I no longer actively recruit for them though as I got nothing out of it apart from headaches. When mentoring (which is till do a bit of) I dont play though because as you rightly say its impossible to critique or help someones game while playing yourself. A few of the ones who joined at the same time as you are still with them and I know one of them now plays on 20k a day stoploss (he started on 200 i think) so progress has been made with some.

Must admit as much as i wanted to give Ben a slap, i used to want to give Russ one more!!

I had one or two opportunities once or twice at blackpool to sort Ariston and on out, but if i am honest i actually found him a thourghly nice bloke, so therefore i have let him off.

Ben on the other hand, i cannot wait to level, so Benny Big Boy
next time you are in the North West let me know for a meet!!!

its about time someone woke you up, and i am the man for the job so lets get it on you begging untrustworthy fag, god i cant stand gingers

Post with meet up details and if there enough interest
maybe we can sell one or two tickets, i would be up for that.

get in touch soon gingernut

regards

Jack

lol say what you really mean jack. name or is it another bigdog?

Well said jack, he wont reply on here because he wants this thread to die out of sheer embarrassment.

Why you wana give me a slap?

As you know who i am maybe you can enlighten me as to who you are?

yawnnnnn no more time for pussyy keyboard warriors zzzzzzzz

Shut up ginge

This begging tramp Lenny is such a hypocrite

Lenny the Guvnor 02 Feb 12:05
Why you wana give me a slap?

As you know who i am maybe you can enlighten me as to who you are?

yawnnnnn no more time for pussyy keyboard warriors zzzzzzzz

Lenny the Guvnor 24 Jan 23:40
banking if you ever want a slap buddy please get in touch. Cheers

You have the cheek to come on here talking about keyboard warriors after you already said u was gonna slap me then pretend like u never saw my replies.
I already let you know where i am once a week and you failed to even acknowledge it cos your a lil pu55y.
u broke, begging ginger coward.

Banking - I think you have serious anger management issues

It's clear to see who's inthe right and who's in the wrong here.

Ginger clearly has anger management problems

Ive known 6 yr olds more grown up than u lot

I think the moral of the story is you shouldn't beg money off of people to gamble.

No different to giving money to a bloke on the street who will get heroin with it.

The morale of the story is you shouldn't loan money to LOSING gamblers, especially ginger ones.

Gamal, You THINK Lik a CAMAL. Go Back TO YOur

c u ntry

At least we don't have gingers here

yes he are Gamal

- and someone they will give you slap in one day. be cause you are stupit hole

you are the ones who he will suffers one day
Gamal [b]