New Posts For Thread: Ongame freeze players accounts over collusion but REFUSE to refund victims!https://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/29136503/ongame-freeze-players-accounts-over-collusion-but-refuse-to-refund-victimsI stumbled across some highly suspicious play on a 3 man micro table the other night, the pre flop action as so:Danutz_Ghost raises to $0.20, bakla7878 calls $0.20, kokoulinos raises to $0.38, Danutz_Ghost calls $0.38, bakla7878 raises to $0.56, kokoSo the investigation says they colluded, but you still refuse to pay out players and let them play?Betfair and Ongame you should be ashamed of yourselves.https://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/29136503/ongame-freeze-players-accounts-over-collusion-but-refuse-to-refund-victims?post_id=520738301#520738301So the investigation says they colluded, but you still refuse to pay out players and let them play?Betfair and Ongame you should be ashamed of yourselves.Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:28:48 -0500Dear Rob,Thank you for contacting Betfair.Please be advised that following an investigation after you reported players kokoulinos and bakla7878 have now been blocked after evidence was found of them colluding. Our poker provider OnGame as well as Bethttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/29136503/ongame-freeze-players-accounts-over-collusion-but-refuse-to-refund-victims?post_id=520738267#520738267Dear Rob,Thank you for contacting Betfair.Please be advised that following an investigation after you reported players kokoulinos and bakla7878 have now been blocked after evidence was found of them colluding. Our poker provider OnGame as well as BetTue, 12 Jun 2012 09:27:53 -0500This all turned into a farce anyway.Betfair/Ongame REFUSED to refund any losing players as in there words "No collusion took place". This is total BS in my book because how can they do what they were doing on a 3 player table without colluding?So Bhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/29136503/ongame-freeze-players-accounts-over-collusion-but-refuse-to-refund-victims?post_id=520737923#520737923This all turned into a farce anyway.Betfair/Ongame REFUSED to refund any losing players as in there words "No collusion took place". This is total BS in my book because how can they do what they were doing on a 3 player table without colluding?So BTue, 12 Jun 2012 09:20:10 -0500Dunno about judges, they very rarely make those sort of decisions surely ? Thought it went plod-CPS-jury, with judges merely doing the sentencing ? It (money laundering ) wasn't uncommon when I worked on course back in the day. I know cheques are a bhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/29136503/ongame-freeze-players-accounts-over-collusion-but-refuse-to-refund-victims?post_id=520213317#520213317Dunno about judges, they very rarely make those sort of decisions surely ? Thought it went plod-CPS-jury, with judges merely doing the sentencing ? It (money laundering ) wasn't uncommon when I worked on course back in the day. I know cheques are a bTue, 29 May 2012 13:38:36 -0500Dave,You are very wrong sir.I used to manage betting shops in Moss Side and all the drug dealers used to turn over their money in the betting shops. Whenever they had a big win (even though they were net losers) they would make a note of the date.https://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/29136503/ongame-freeze-players-accounts-over-collusion-but-refuse-to-refund-victims?post_id=520212999#520212999Dave,You are very wrong sir.I used to manage betting shops in Moss Side and all the drug dealers used to turn over their money in the betting shops. Whenever they had a big win (even though they were net losers) they would make a note of the date.Tue, 29 May 2012 13:32:35 -0500Don't think this is very likely on that scale. All it does is move the illegitimate cash from person A to person B, giving person B the problem that person A had. Also the bookie would have to have £50k in cash in the bank to cover the cheque - thhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/29136503/ongame-freeze-players-accounts-over-collusion-but-refuse-to-refund-victims?post_id=520202539#520202539Don't think this is very likely on that scale. All it does is move the illegitimate cash from person A to person B, giving person B the problem that person A had. Also the bookie would have to have £50k in cash in the bank to cover the cheque - thTue, 29 May 2012 09:38:26 -0500What difference is it who is up or down ,if it is the same account holder.If one is up 4k, the other down2k he has nicked 2k.But I'll run with your off shore bankinghttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/29136503/ongame-freeze-players-accounts-over-collusion-but-refuse-to-refund-victims?post_id=520192639#520192639What difference is it who is up or down ,if it is the same account holder.If one is up 4k, the other down2k he has nicked 2k.But I'll run with your off shore bankingTue, 29 May 2012 03:33:42 -0500Interesting theory chip.That could be happening on a much bigger scale on other sites and herehttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/29136503/ongame-freeze-players-accounts-over-collusion-but-refuse-to-refund-victims?post_id=520180865#520180865Interesting theory chip.That could be happening on a much bigger scale on other sites and hereMon, 28 May 2012 16:44:28 -0500The other possibility is losing Greek Gadge A lives in Greece and deposits there in euros.Winning Greek Gadge B who hes dumping to lives in London and can withdraw in sterling.If Greece comes out of the Euro they reckon their money will devalue by arhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/29136503/ongame-freeze-players-accounts-over-collusion-but-refuse-to-refund-victims?post_id=520178773#520178773The other possibility is losing Greek Gadge A lives in Greece and deposits there in euros.Winning Greek Gadge B who hes dumping to lives in London and can withdraw in sterling.If Greece comes out of the Euro they reckon their money will devalue by arMon, 28 May 2012 15:34:52 -0500I dont think so, because only one of them is winning, and the other is losing very heavily, not suprisingly to his mates.You ask why do it at micro stakes, well the fact the bloke has dumped off 4k, and 2.2k before anyone did anything tells its own shttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/29136503/ongame-freeze-players-accounts-over-collusion-but-refuse-to-refund-victims?post_id=520178471#520178471I dont think so, because only one of them is winning, and the other is losing very heavily, not suprisingly to his mates.You ask why do it at micro stakes, well the fact the bloke has dumped off 4k, and 2.2k before anyone did anything tells its own sMon, 28 May 2012 15:25:46 -0500