New Posts For Thread: Saw opponents hole cardshttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28597577/saw-opponents-hole-cardsI was just playing in a SNG. First hand into the tourney, before any showdown, one of the opponents hole cards was apparently revealed to me (QD). I immediately took a screen shot. I have tried 3 times to upload this so I can show it on the forum butI've had this happen in 1/2 F Limit Head up opponent was showing Jc, except it didn't stay showed like the screen shot it just showed it for 2-3 secs before the flop, anyhow I can't remember my starting hand but we both checked until the river, I hadhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28597577/saw-opponents-hole-cards?post_id=512318715#512318715I've had this happen in 1/2 F Limit Head up opponent was showing Jc, except it didn't stay showed like the screen shot it just showed it for 2-3 secs before the flop, anyhow I can't remember my starting hand but we both checked until the river, I hadTue, 08 Nov 2011 11:47:58 -0600But ultimately the good players win in the long term and the bad players lose. Obviously the main beneficary in slowing down the process by which the money passes from the fish to the sharks is the site itself. I speak for STT's only which I play.I'vhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28597577/saw-opponents-hole-cards?post_id=511582071#511582071But ultimately the good players win in the long term and the bad players lose. Obviously the main beneficary in slowing down the process by which the money passes from the fish to the sharks is the site itself. I speak for STT's only which I play.I'vSun, 23 Oct 2011 13:24:05 -0500Like I said, the fishy players, may win the battle from time to time, they never though win the war. If someone makes a mathematically awful play against you, assuming they have sufficent gameplay to get an accurate reflection, their scope stats willhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28597577/saw-opponents-hole-cards?post_id=511580807#511580807Like I said, the fishy players, may win the battle from time to time, they never though win the war. If someone makes a mathematically awful play against you, assuming they have sufficent gameplay to get an accurate reflection, their scope stats willSun, 23 Oct 2011 12:59:00 -0500Chipfire227 "and even when I get it in good pre flop, I seem to get outdrawn by the any 2 suited brigade way more than seems reasonable."Dont worry m8, it's just standard variance, everything is totally above board here, u see them things everyday "https://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28597577/saw-opponents-hole-cards?post_id=511549999#511549999Chipfire227 "and even when I get it in good pre flop, I seem to get outdrawn by the any 2 suited brigade way more than seems reasonable."Dont worry m8, it's just standard variance, everything is totally above board here, u see them things everyday "Sat, 22 Oct 2011 18:36:17 -0500site gets better by the dayhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28597577/saw-opponents-hole-cards?post_id=511549473#511549473site gets better by the daySat, 22 Oct 2011 18:13:10 -0500Im down to about 30 STTS a week on Betfair. I just cant make any money playing here, and think the move from 9 seaters to 10 seaters, combined with the move from 5 minute blind levels to 3 minutes, has definitely removed a signifigant amount of the ehttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28597577/saw-opponents-hole-cards?post_id=511531581#511531581Im down to about 30 STTS a week on Betfair. I just cant make any money playing here, and think the move from 9 seaters to 10 seaters, combined with the move from 5 minute blind levels to 3 minutes, has definitely removed a signifigant amount of the eSat, 22 Oct 2011 12:04:38 -0500Interesting post. Sticky stuff like first card lag and then the known bug explanation.I'v occasionally thought I've flashed cards that I've got ticked as aways muck. I've had lag cards so that I cannot read what actually dealt. i've presumed just myhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28597577/saw-opponents-hole-cards?post_id=511503907#511503907Interesting post. Sticky stuff like first card lag and then the known bug explanation.I'v occasionally thought I've flashed cards that I've got ticked as aways muck. I've had lag cards so that I cannot read what actually dealt. i've presumed just myFri, 21 Oct 2011 19:02:23 -0500There a whole army of them who simply play any 2 suited cards, they will raise, shove, call with them regardless.It happens in 3 dollar games, but it also happens in 30 dollar games. Ive played 4 games tonight and gone out shoving with jj vs k8 suitehttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28597577/saw-opponents-hole-cards?post_id=511500167#511500167There a whole army of them who simply play any 2 suited cards, they will raise, shove, call with them regardless.It happens in 3 dollar games, but it also happens in 30 dollar games. Ive played 4 games tonight and gone out shoving with jj vs k8 suiteFri, 21 Oct 2011 16:58:28 -0500ewa84 73 -$8 $10 -63% -$551 - 51 Ongame xSteady downward graph (nice and smooth)Unfortunately this doesn't help as you can now assume he's raising any 2.https://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28597577/saw-opponents-hole-cards?post_id=511490129#511490129ewa84 73 -$8 $10 -63% -$551 - 51 Ongame xSteady downward graph (nice and smooth)Unfortunately this doesn't help as you can now assume he's raising any 2.Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:22:25 -0500This just in from Betfair:Sorry for the delay in getting back to you and thank you for bringing this to our attention. We have investigated this thoroughly today and can confirm that what happened was a very rare but known Ongame bug. We have had a fhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28597577/saw-opponents-hole-cards?post_id=511490001#511490001This just in from Betfair:Sorry for the delay in getting back to you and thank you for bringing this to our attention. We have investigated this thoroughly today and can confirm that what happened was a very rare but known Ongame bug. We have had a fFri, 21 Oct 2011 12:19:27 -0500