New Posts For Thread: More Proof that Ongame is Full of Sh@Thttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28289475/more-proof-that-ongame-is-full-of-shtTEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-177458778-46 played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2011-09-21 11:40 until 2011-09-21 11:41 Seat 1: ignatios7 (3,410 in chips) Seat 5: harkley (935 in chips) Seat 9: lostriver89 (3,155 in chips) ANTES/BLINDSharkley pharterI don't think anyone has ever complained about cash games - it's almost always been the STTs at levels below $20.I thought the point of the rig was to generate more rake, why do you think the sites would target micro STT players and leave everyhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28289475/more-proof-that-ongame-is-full-of-sht?post_id=507287569#507287569harterI don't think anyone has ever complained about cash games - it's almost always been the STTs at levels below $20.I thought the point of the rig was to generate more rake, why do you think the sites would target micro STT players and leave everyWed, 28 Sep 2011 02:51:00 -0500now a 3 outter..and u know for a FACT that its cominghttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28289475/more-proof-that-ongame-is-full-of-sht?post_id=507281863#507281863now a 3 outter..and u know for a FACT that its comingTue, 27 Sep 2011 20:50:13 -0500just lost half my stack being a 99%fav then the rest 2 the same donk when i was an 82% fav,,,downhill site5https://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28289475/more-proof-that-ongame-is-full-of-sht?post_id=507281751#507281751just lost half my stack being a 99%fav then the rest 2 the same donk when i was an 82% fav,,,downhill site5Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:46:45 -0500I made no secret of the fact myself, gnash and windings, thought a certain game on here wasn't being played in ...ahem....the true spirit of the game earlier in the year, and I stopped playing.In the 4 months May-Aug inclusive I got a total of just uhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28289475/more-proof-that-ongame-is-full-of-sht?post_id=507268249#507268249I made no secret of the fact myself, gnash and windings, thought a certain game on here wasn't being played in ...ahem....the true spirit of the game earlier in the year, and I stopped playing.In the 4 months May-Aug inclusive I got a total of just uTue, 27 Sep 2011 14:53:23 -0500Thanks for your clear and reasoned response, Chip. Much appreciated. You are 100% correct in saying that if people believe they are not getting a fair game then they should just leave.https://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28289475/more-proof-that-ongame-is-full-of-sht?post_id=507267153#507267153Thanks for your clear and reasoned response, Chip. Much appreciated. You are 100% correct in saying that if people believe they are not getting a fair game then they should just leave.Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:31:09 -0500So many questions, so little time...We only discussed Essence as it is only cash games where Beftair/Ongame are manipulating rakeback to in their words "protect the poker ecosystem" so this has no bearing on STTS/MTTS.I am simply the messenger, I inhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28289475/more-proof-that-ongame-is-full-of-sht?post_id=507266605#507266605So many questions, so little time...We only discussed Essence as it is only cash games where Beftair/Ongame are manipulating rakeback to in their words "protect the poker ecosystem" so this has no bearing on STTS/MTTS.I am simply the messenger, I inTue, 27 Sep 2011 14:19:44 -0500The OnGame assessments utilised a 1.42 million hand sample together with 12,306 hands coming from $30NL short handed cash games. The live game expectation would be 6,457 winners. The internet site assessments returned with 6,454.5 winners, a variancehttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28289475/more-proof-that-ongame-is-full-of-sht?post_id=507232865#507232865The OnGame assessments utilised a 1.42 million hand sample together with 12,306 hands coming from $30NL short handed cash games. The live game expectation would be 6,457 winners. The internet site assessments returned with 6,454.5 winners, a varianceMon, 26 Sep 2011 17:28:32 -0500To Betfair PR Manager. The 100 sample for 1 million population only allows for an 80% confidence level which is clearly not sufficient. Mind you a sample of 1,000 hands on a million population would provide a 99% confidence level and 3% confidence inhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28289475/more-proof-that-ongame-is-full-of-sht?post_id=507232609#507232609To Betfair PR Manager. The 100 sample for 1 million population only allows for an 80% confidence level which is clearly not sufficient. Mind you a sample of 1,000 hands on a million population would provide a 99% confidence level and 3% confidence inMon, 26 Sep 2011 17:22:12 -0500Poker is a game of choice ,Hartley. Impossible to dictate to people who their opponents should be . Poker is an ego trip for many . The implication that poor players will or are being helped is the crux of the statement . The only conclusion I can dhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28289475/more-proof-that-ongame-is-full-of-sht?post_id=507232451#507232451Poker is a game of choice ,Hartley. Impossible to dictate to people who their opponents should be . Poker is an ego trip for many . The implication that poor players will or are being helped is the crux of the statement . The only conclusion I can dMon, 26 Sep 2011 17:18:49 -0500Poker is a game of choice ,Hartley .Impossible to dictate to people who their opponents should be . Poker is an ego trip for many . The implication that poor players will or are being helped is the crux of the statement . The only conclusion I can dhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/28289475/more-proof-that-ongame-is-full-of-sht?post_id=507232281#507232281Poker is a game of choice ,Hartley .Impossible to dictate to people who their opponents should be . Poker is an ego trip for many . The implication that poor players will or are being helped is the crux of the statement . The only conclusion I can dMon, 26 Sep 2011 17:14:53 -0500