New Posts For Thread: is this collussionhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/23653250/is-this-collussionplaying a dn2, my stack 730 another guy 770 another 2350 other guy the rest. i shove for 730 called by the 770 leaving him 40 , and flat called by the 2350 , not put the 770 in for 40 more.as it happens i had a 10 the 770 stack a worse aceWhile there is no real upside there is also no real downside.99% chance of cashing if you don't do it, 95% if you call and fail to beat either player. But if you call you definitely reduce your expected time in a re tarded D2N. Swings and roundabouthttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/23653250/is-this-collussion?post_id=423914338#423914338While there is no real upside there is also no real downside.99% chance of cashing if you don't do it, 95% if you call and fail to beat either player. But if you call you definitely reduce your expected time in a re tarded D2N. Swings and roundaboutSat, 05 Dec 2009 12:18:07 -0600u summed it up perfectly there chip , big downdide no real upside.oi spose u could say thay by betting the extra 40 he could be forcing the other guy out leaving an head up situation.https://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/23653250/is-this-collussion?post_id=423914318#423914318u summed it up perfectly there chip , big downdide no real upside.oi spose u could say thay by betting the extra 40 he could be forcing the other guy out leaving an head up situation.Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:11:40 -0600sorry doobs, just cant agree.if the blinds are 50/100 why commit 630 more *****with 6 8 when you are huge odds on to cash by leaving the shorties to go toe to toe ?worst case scenario you lose and the other 2 split pot leaving you on 1650, and both ohttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/23653250/is-this-collussion?post_id=423914214#423914214sorry doobs, just cant agree.if the blinds are 50/100 why commit 630 more *****with 6 8 when you are huge odds on to cash by leaving the shorties to go toe to toe ?worst case scenario you lose and the other 2 split pot leaving you on 1650, and both oFri, 04 Dec 2009 17:00:55 -0600I don't really see what is wrong with the call. Having 1600 vs a guy with 40 really isn't much worse than having 2300 vs a guy with 40. He doesn't really need to get involved, but it is hardly the worst call ever or anywhere close. He should obviohttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/23653250/is-this-collussion?post_id=423914182#423914182I don't really see what is wrong with the call. Having 1600 vs a guy with 40 really isn't much worse than having 2300 vs a guy with 40. He doesn't really need to get involved, but it is hardly the worst call ever or anywhere close. He should obvioFri, 04 Dec 2009 14:25:49 -0600you are all talking like you expect everyone to be d2n pros, of course if u know what u are doing its pretty abc and certain plays are obvious do or dont... but to start calling people mugs and colluders everytime they make a bad play is ridiculous,https://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/23653250/is-this-collussion?post_id=423914174#423914174you are all talking like you expect everyone to be d2n pros, of course if u know what u are doing its pretty abc and certain plays are obvious do or dont... but to start calling people mugs and colluders everytime they make a bad play is ridiculous,Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:29:42 -0600*****scenario is very different, in that case the 1700 stack will be down to 800 if he loses, whereas sicko's is still going to be ahead of at least one of the 2 short stacks. not sure why you would not put the other short stack in for his last chiphttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/23653250/is-this-collussion?post_id=423914158#423914158*****scenario is very different, in that case the 1700 stack will be down to 800 if he loses, whereas sicko's is still going to be ahead of at least one of the 2 short stacks. not sure why you would not put the other short stack in for his last chipFri, 04 Dec 2009 12:38:05 -0600its poss that niether of our kickers plays as well causing a split pot.https://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/23653250/is-this-collussion?post_id=423914154#423914154its poss that niether of our kickers plays as well causing a split pot.Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:00:31 -0600chip , you have pointed out exactly why i say its a must pass.most times it will make no difference to him and jusy occasionallyit will cost him his place .https://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/23653250/is-this-collussion?post_id=423914150#423914150chip , you have pointed out exactly why i say its a must pass.most times it will make no difference to him and jusy occasionallyit will cost him his place .Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:59:17 -0600great fredhttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/23653250/is-this-collussion?post_id=423914146#423914146great fredFri, 04 Dec 2009 10:51:55 -0600its a mug call with the 2 short stacks effectively all in and him holding 68 off with blinds at those levels.almost identical thing happened in game i was playing the other night with blinds at 75/150.2 shorties are all in with 900 ish *****apiece, ahttps://community.betfair.com/poker/go/thread/view/94146/23653250/is-this-collussion?post_id=423914142#423914142its a mug call with the 2 short stacks effectively all in and him holding 68 off with blinds at those levels.almost identical thing happened in game i was playing the other night with blinds at 75/150.2 shorties are all in with 900 ish *****apiece, aFri, 04 Dec 2009 10:44:04 -0600