New Posts For Thread: This is the worst tdf in recent memoryhttps://community.betfair.com/other_sports/go/thread/view/94142/29236965/this-is-the-worst-tdf-in-recent-memoryNo one is making a challenge to the GC in the mountains, the sprints (which are always the most exciting part) aren't materialising since the peloton is allowing breakaways on many of the sprint stages, and there are few uphill finishes which is alloYeah just found this @ http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18899902Bradley Wiggins: What the French make of cycling heroBy Hugh Schofield BBC News, Paris9 hours agoBradley WigginsIf fans of Bradley Wiggins are fretting about his reception in Paris shoulhttps://community.betfair.com/other_sports/go/thread/view/94142/29236965/this-is-the-worst-tdf-in-recent-memory?post_id=522074965#522074965Yeah just found this @ http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18899902Bradley Wiggins: What the French make of cycling heroBy Hugh Schofield BBC News, Paris9 hours agoBradley WigginsIf fans of Bradley Wiggins are fretting about his reception in Paris shoulFri, 20 Jul 2012 04:14:45 -0500"Anglo-Saxon teams like Sky are more organised. They are more pro," says Yves Blanc, editor of Le Cycle magazine."Every member has a clear job to do, serving the leader, and there's no room for poetry."So, yes we have lost something of the romance ofhttps://community.betfair.com/other_sports/go/thread/view/94142/29236965/this-is-the-worst-tdf-in-recent-memory?post_id=522074637#522074637"Anglo-Saxon teams like Sky are more organised. They are more pro," says Yves Blanc, editor of Le Cycle magazine."Every member has a clear job to do, serving the leader, and there's no room for poetry."So, yes we have lost something of the romance ofFri, 20 Jul 2012 03:54:35 -0500F Schleck was probably doped up targeting Stage 16 but alas Tommy Dopeler avoided detection and won ithttps://community.betfair.com/other_sports/go/thread/view/94142/29236965/this-is-the-worst-tdf-in-recent-memory?post_id=522073925#522073925F Schleck was probably doped up targeting Stage 16 but alas Tommy Dopeler avoided detection and won itFri, 20 Jul 2012 02:53:24 -0500Yeah i realise that (if Sky were French it would be different!) but just wandered if they say the victory is tainted as Froome is 'clearly the better rider' as asserted on here by you and others or if nothing is being made of it as it happens on a rehttps://community.betfair.com/other_sports/go/thread/view/94142/29236965/this-is-the-worst-tdf-in-recent-memory?post_id=522073899#522073899Yeah i realise that (if Sky were French it would be different!) but just wandered if they say the victory is tainted as Froome is 'clearly the better rider' as asserted on here by you and others or if nothing is being made of it as it happens on a reFri, 20 Jul 2012 02:50:28 -0500a bit of both to be honest. Wiggo is quite popular with french media, sky aren'thttps://community.betfair.com/other_sports/go/thread/view/94142/29236965/this-is-the-worst-tdf-in-recent-memory?post_id=522073815#522073815a bit of both to be honest. Wiggo is quite popular with french media, sky aren'tFri, 20 Jul 2012 02:42:17 -0500Just as a matter of interest what is the cycling and French media saying about this tour? Are they saying it is devalued and the worst ever because of the Sky tactics or are they saying that what is happening has always happened in one way or anotherhttps://community.betfair.com/other_sports/go/thread/view/94142/29236965/this-is-the-worst-tdf-in-recent-memory?post_id=522073777#522073777Just as a matter of interest what is the cycling and French media saying about this tour? Are they saying it is devalued and the worst ever because of the Sky tactics or are they saying that what is happening has always happened in one way or anotherFri, 20 Jul 2012 02:37:23 -0500the sports science guy predicted that EPO dosed armstrong/pantani etc wudda done the climb up to belle filles (the stage that Froome won) about 2 mins quicker than Froome and wiggins did it.https://community.betfair.com/other_sports/go/thread/view/94142/29236965/this-is-the-worst-tdf-in-recent-memory?post_id=522065905#522065905the sports science guy predicted that EPO dosed armstrong/pantani etc wudda done the climb up to belle filles (the stage that Froome won) about 2 mins quicker than Froome and wiggins did it.Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:27:43 -0500a clean athlete can put out 6.5 W/kg for about 15 mins and 6 W/kg for about an hour (i think - the exact details may be different)in the EPO years the likes of armstrong were putting out 6.5+ W/kg for an hour or sohttps://community.betfair.com/other_sports/go/thread/view/94142/29236965/this-is-the-worst-tdf-in-recent-memory?post_id=522065843#522065843a clean athlete can put out 6.5 W/kg for about 15 mins and 6 W/kg for about an hour (i think - the exact details may be different)in the EPO years the likes of armstrong were putting out 6.5+ W/kg for an hour or soThu, 19 Jul 2012 18:25:22 -0500So, in terms of what that means for Wiggins and co at the front of the stage, it predicts about 6.4 to 6.5 W/kgWhat does that prove. Lance Armstrong put out 6.6 and Riis put out 6.8 on Hautacam according to your firsty articles.......and that was seehttps://community.betfair.com/other_sports/go/thread/view/94142/29236965/this-is-the-worst-tdf-in-recent-memory?post_id=522065527#522065527So, in terms of what that means for Wiggins and co at the front of the stage, it predicts about 6.4 to 6.5 W/kgWhat does that prove. Lance Armstrong put out 6.6 and Riis put out 6.8 on Hautacam according to your firsty articles.......and that was seeThu, 19 Jul 2012 18:13:58 -0500This is the one that deals with the power outputs in the 2012 Tourhttp://www.sportsscientists.com/search?updated-min=2012-01-01T00:00:00%2B02:00&updated-max=2013-01-01T00:00:00%2B02:00&max-results=21https://community.betfair.com/other_sports/go/thread/view/94142/29236965/this-is-the-worst-tdf-in-recent-memory?post_id=522065111#522065111This is the one that deals with the power outputs in the 2012 Tourhttp://www.sportsscientists.com/search?updated-min=2012-01-01T00:00:00%2B02:00&updated-max=2013-01-01T00:00:00%2B02:00&max-results=21Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:58:41 -0500