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tobermory
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20:05 2.78 Tampa Bay Buccaneers +3.5 @ Green Bay Packers 1.55
23:40 2.62 Buffalo Bills +3 @ Kansas City Chiefs 1.60
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Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:03 AM GMT
Bowling.
Report EUGENE KRABS January 25, 2021 2:04 AM GMT
mugged off again
Report wondersobright January 25, 2021 2:04 AM GMT
any idea of an ETA for these 7s...
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY January 25, 2021 2:04 AM GMT
Over and out

Kelce gobbled that up from Mahones

Clever play
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 2:04 AM GMT
BILLS by kicking FGs have presented no threat what so Ever ,  A jab against a Right hook Laugh
Report wondersobright January 25, 2021 2:06 AM GMT
they haven't been in this game since mahomes came out slinging & connecting
2 criminal 4th down FGs...signed their own suicide note
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 25, 2021 2:07 AM GMT

Jan 24, 2021 -- 8:02PM, therhino wrote:


All under control. Chiefs TD here then it's only 6 straight field goals and 6 3 and outs on defense


Then they can make a movie about it, Field goals of Dreams!

Report EUGENE KRABS January 25, 2021 2:08 AM GMT
Hill and Kelce's numbers off the charts and still more than a full quarter to go
Report therhino January 25, 2021 2:08 AM GMT
And then they have a crack throwing to 1 against 2. They're not setting themselves up to win at all.

Mind you it's all very easy from the couch at home Cool
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:09 AM GMT
Playing to Chiefs plan here....

Giving them short gains.gotta work all the way down.
Report tobermory January 25, 2021 2:10 AM GMT
The Bills probably are the 2nd best in AFC

But Bills v Raiders a more even match up than Bills v Chiefs.
Report therhino January 25, 2021 2:10 AM GMT
Who is the better tight end, 2020/21 Travis Kelce or Gronk at his peak?

It's still peak Gronk right?
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:11 AM GMT
Boom.

Clock running down now too. Bill's taking an age.
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:11 AM GMT
Make a play Matheui you mug.
Report therhino January 25, 2021 2:12 AM GMT
57 yard FG coming up Excited
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 2:12 AM GMT
FIELD GOAL ???  Laugh
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 2:12 AM GMT
I will pmsl if they try to kick it Laugh
Report wondersobright January 25, 2021 2:13 AM GMT
6 FGs will still do it!!
Report wondersobright January 25, 2021 2:13 AM GMT
they are still in this!! Laugh
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:13 AM GMT
No way....
Report therhino January 25, 2021 2:15 AM GMT
Coach bottled it
Report Wallflower January 25, 2021 2:15 AM GMT
You can't assume they would make 4th down - its about 50%  conversion rate.  The second one was quite long for a 4th down.  I think their only chance was to keep in touch and hope the defense could stop, or get a turnover.

As I said earlier, if they can't stop them then it doesn't matter if they go for it or not. They'd still lose. At some stage to beat the Chiefs you have to positive - positive in the sense your defense can come up trumps. Forget getting into a shoot-out with them.
Report Wallflower January 25, 2021 2:16 AM GMT
Its not Madden
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:18 AM GMT
GSM.....
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:18 AM GMT
Game plan worked....

Make them go the entire length.
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY January 25, 2021 2:18 AM GMT
Easy for chiefs... the Buccs will have it hard to beat this side
Report wondersobright January 25, 2021 2:19 AM GMT
when you work through the maths from 21-9 & from 24-12
you expect to be needing 31+ points
that's 3 TDs min from 9 points & likely 3 TDs from 12 points
fact is inside the 2 is by far your best chance of getting 1 of those
as is a 4th & 3 inside the red zone
its impossible to argue from a math or game state point of view that a FG was correct there in both cases
Report tobermory January 25, 2021 2:19 AM GMT
Damn tried to take all the 50 for Bills in SB market when the pick happened but only got 11p of it.
Report Wallflower January 25, 2021 2:19 AM GMT
Sh1t -  had managed a nice big green on Buffalo for the hell of itSad - thought the Chiefs might let them back in
Report tobermory January 25, 2021 2:19 AM GMT
To lay it obviously.
Report wondersobright January 25, 2021 2:19 AM GMT
and 31 points is a base minimum realistic target
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:19 AM GMT
Whatever the Bill's have done.....

It pails to Lafleur and Rodgers.
Report dr . atkins January 25, 2021 2:19 AM GMT
any 1.8 left for the superbowl
Report therhino January 25, 2021 2:20 AM GMT
I get what you mean Wallflower. I think you also have to be pragmatic and assume you need a certain number of points and against the Cheifs that number is going to be decent. You have to accept that you will need to take risks and if those risks don't pan out you will lose the game. At the same time you have to also understand that without taking the risks, you are going to lose.

This isn't 2 even teams against one another, it's a very good team vs an all-world team. Playing safe is not playing at all.
Report wondersobright January 25, 2021 2:21 AM GMT
KC -3.5 in tampa albeit with a weak almost neutral home field
Report EUGENE KRABS January 25, 2021 2:21 AM GMT
They are so good if you put Mahomes, Hill and Kelce into the Jets team they'd be Superbowl candidates !
Report tobermory January 25, 2021 2:22 AM GMT
Chiefs really look like a dynasty.

The Bill's are there most serious competition, and are nowhere near. Can't see anyone else getting close for a couple years at least.
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 2:23 AM GMT
The only time Bills have looked positive was the Fumble ,Since then they have  looked overwhelmed , Kicking field goals was never going to work against Kansas .

Diggs has been shut down .. A sad end to a good season went out like a Light .
Report EUGENE KRABS January 25, 2021 2:24 AM GMT
Chiefs taking quite a few hits to key players !
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:24 AM GMT
No Watkins.
No Bell.
Half fit Edward's Helaire.

No Schwartz.
No Osemele.

Unbelievable display.
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 2:24 AM GMT
Is that the Line won -3.5 ?
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:26 AM GMT
Get down PAT...
Report wondersobright January 25, 2021 2:26 AM GMT
it will be yeah
Report Wallflower January 25, 2021 2:26 AM GMT
I get the maths - but there is also the situation.

For example, last week - the Chiefs shouldn't really have gone for it at the end of the game. I thought it was a bad move. So did Andy Reid !! He said he wanted to punt, but he checked with Bienemy and he had the play. Reid said ok. They were confident.

As you said, all team are not equal, seems to me the Bills didn't have the 'play' for the situation that they were confident in. A good running team probably have a better chance.
Report tobermory January 25, 2021 2:27 AM GMT
FG here and they can put Henne in
Report EUGENE KRABS January 25, 2021 2:27 AM GMT
Mahomes must have enjoyed the concussion protocol looks like he fancies another one
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:27 AM GMT
Run the clock boys.

Stay out of trouble injury wise ffs.
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:29 AM GMT
Hill and Kelce are close to Mahomes level in own field....
Report Wallflower January 25, 2021 2:30 AM GMT
Tobermory  - if you don't mind me asking  - what is your position now on Chiefs and Bucs on the outright?
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:31 AM GMT
Hahahahahaha.....
Report wondersobright January 25, 2021 2:31 AM GMT
start the tuk tuk
Report EUGENE KRABS January 25, 2021 2:31 AM GMT
Brady going to need the Zebras onside in a fortnight !
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:31 AM GMT
Get him benched....
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 2:31 AM GMT
Laugh LOL unreal , so easy
Report tobermory January 25, 2021 2:33 AM GMT
Chiefs +328
Bucs -6
Report Wallflower January 25, 2021 2:34 AM GMT
very good -  leaving it, or greening out a bit? or undecided?
Report Wallflower January 25, 2021 2:37 AM GMT
If Josh Allen continues to be the de facto running back - he'll be out for the season by Week 4 next year.  Not sure Moss is the answer
Report tobermory January 25, 2021 2:38 AM GMT
I think leave it.

If Packers won would have been about 375 Chiefs and +100 Packers.

A but disappointing after 5 months betting.

2 years ago I was +500 Patriot/+600 Rams. Last year about +350 Chiefs/+300 49ers.

But I made some errors this time and could have been much worse if Saints got through.
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:40 AM GMT
Chiefs absolutely smashed the Buccs in week 12.

Totally switched off at end as up by 3 scores.

Won by 3 going on 13....
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:41 AM GMT
Very very one sided game though.

Chiefs bad injury news here.

Left tackle ****....
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 2:41 AM GMT
Josh is Class   Plenty of time
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 2:43 AM GMT
Shocked
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:44 AM GMT
Calm down Tony fgs...
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 25, 2021 2:44 AM GMT
Brady the last QB to win Superbowl back-to-back (16 years ago). Can now stop Mahomes from becoming the next.
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 2:45 AM GMT
PlainShocked
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 25, 2021 2:47 AM GMT
Buffalo Bullies
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:47 AM GMT
That will end it now then.

3rd and 50ExcitedLaugh
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 2:47 AM GMT
Shocked
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:50 AM GMT
ExcitedHappyGrinLaughHappyGrin
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 2:50 AM GMT
3rd and 50

FG ?


Grin
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:50 AM GMT
Brilliant.
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:51 AM GMT
Get the stiffs in Andy ffs.
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:52 AM GMT
Utter bullshit....
Report EUGENE KRABS January 25, 2021 2:52 AM GMT
That guy from Wealdstone will appear in a minute   you want some ?
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 2:52 AM GMT
Laugh
Report tobermory January 25, 2021 2:53 AM GMT
I saw a clip of a college game where a team had 3rd & 96
Report therhino January 25, 2021 2:53 AM GMT
This game feels like it's been going forever now.
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 2:54 AM GMT
If they recover this O K will be uproar Laugh
Report EUGENE KRABS January 25, 2021 2:54 AM GMT
1 to a thousand they recover two onside kicks
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 25, 2021 2:54 AM GMT
Andy Reid in Superbowl again.
That means this clip will get even more play:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J43shDi3XU
Excited
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 2:55 AM GMT
Fook me that was some catch Laugh
Report tobermory January 25, 2021 2:57 AM GMT
Where is Henne ffs
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 2:57 AM GMT
Garbage from Bill's this.

Out of order.
Report therhino January 25, 2021 2:59 AM GMT
Get Mahomes out there FFS. Bills have lost their heads and may do something stupid.
Report therhino January 25, 2021 2:59 AM GMT
* out of there
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 3:00 AM GMT
Get him out of there now come on....
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 3:01 AM GMT
Lafleur spoke of regret allegedly.....

Field goal.
Report tobermory January 25, 2021 3:02 AM GMT
lol at Rodgers dumping on Lafleur
Report tobermory January 25, 2021 3:04 AM GMT
Thought 'gutted' was an english soccer terminology
Report therhino January 25, 2021 3:06 AM GMT
Brady v Mahomes in the Super Bowl. Marketers dream. The folks at SportsCenter working on their dramatic music montages as we speak.
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 3:07 AM GMT
YOUNG  GOAT V OLD GOAT  7/2/21
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 3:09 AM GMT
Last week regular season one of the Comms said don't be surprised  Tom V Patrick Bowl GrinHE KNEW Laugh
Report SamuelMertensBertens January 25, 2021 3:09 AM GMT
2001 Sampras vs Federer
2021 Brady vs Mahomes
Report casemoney January 25, 2021 3:10 AM GMT
Lets hope its not a case of THEY KNEW Plain  at WWWNFL.COM Grin
Report Wallflower January 25, 2021 3:10 AM GMT
Good point  -  all the great young QBs  all in AFC

Mahommes
Watson    (if he stays)
Jackson
Herbert
Allen
Burrow
Lawrence  (if he turns out to be as projected)
Report tobermory January 25, 2021 3:14 AM GMT
Just have to hope Mahomes,Brady,Kelce don't get covid
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 9:53 AM GMT
So many talking points in those 2 games...

NFL just never fails.

Packers must be feeling sore this morning. Bigtime choke all round. Starts with coach, on to Rodgers and both defense first half, offense second half let themselves down badly....

What an opportunity squandered, and without actually having a swing, due to THEE WORST CALL THIS
SEASON.

What a numnuts. Interested to watch Good Morning Football and see what's what.

Chiefs just too good, if stay healthy I hope and think they'll do a number on the fairly fortunate Buccs.
Report johnnythebull January 25, 2021 11:12 AM GMT
even Usain Bolt might struggle to keep tabs on that KC Offense..they are just lights out rapid plus Kelce is absolute money for Mahomes..very special unit..exhilirating,explosive and their D played better as well..just a clinic

must say tho',for me,Mahomes mobility looked slightly impaired but has 2 weeks to improve

felt pressure loaded up too much on Allen and maybe tried to do too much..he should be at the 49ers..with a top QB they still have an awesome offense

so a budding GOAT against the incontrovertible GOAT who just keeps getting it done when it matters unlike the fawning Media bottler would be GOAT aspirants who continually fail to deliver on the biggest of stages

should be great fare and if TB can beat this lot they will be the most deserved of champions
Report jedi sophie January 25, 2021 12:46 PM GMT
Rodgers clearly told Lafleur we need to go on 4th here....

Clearly.

Body language and comment says it all. He basically said when on 3rd he thought it was 4 downs...When he didnt run.....
Report wondersobright January 25, 2021 1:12 PM GMT
agree case 2.41am post
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