Oct 1, 2013 -- 2:27PM, Swardean wrote:
Las Vegas is an interesting one, it has a relatively small population (however it is a growing city) but has loads of tourists that would likely happily stump up for a game. But is that what the franchise wants, lots of one off visitors?Also, only 300 miles to Azizona, so relatively speaking not that far.
2 million people live in the metropolitan area, wouldn't rely on tourists, easily sustainable.
The NFL franchise can come to London, it will still be a miserable failure and the NFL will end up folding it.
Not the end of the world, is it? You claim that the NFL is the best sports league in the world yet it currently contains awful franchises like the Jaguars and Rams that are consistently poor and get low attendances, so why would a poor team in London with low attendances be any different? As an absolute worst case scenario they'd be in a similar position to where they are now, and they can just move it on to whichever city wants to have a go next.
But an awful franchise would work in London right? It contains poor franchises because that's the inevitable consequence of competition, there is ZERO barrier to them improving and winning (unlike the premiership which is a virtual closed shop) - all that needs to change in STL and Jax, is the standings, get hold of the next Andrew Luck, hire the right coach.
Move it to the next city? LOL!!! so repeat the mistake in Paris or Berlin? - This gets even better...
I didn't say it would work in London, I'm just saying I don't think it would be any worse than in Jacksonville or St Louis. If a London team drafted the next Andrew Luck and hired the right coach then I'm sure there would be lots of interest in them too.
And by the next city I meant in the USA. If London doesn't work then they can simply move it back to an American city and the London team can be consigned to history with the Houston Oilers, LA Raiders, LA Rams, Cleveland Browns (Mk I), St Louis Cardinals, Baltimore Colts and so forth.
You're kind of missing the point...... its just one of MANY issues that makes London different to locating in a US city.....it's another example of why it is far harder to make it feel like a "London" team, and part of the fabric of the city.
The season so short, being another; and then flying in would just add to the whole perception of it being US-based NFL "mercenaries" HAVING to play in London because it might be more profitable to the owners. It won't become part of the identity of the city - like sports teams (franchises) do in US cities (and Arsenal, West Ham, Liverpool, Celtic, and whoever are "part" of the cities in this part of the world).
What's also very unusual is that the likelihood of their local NFL base will be hardened supporters of teams from other cities, that they have supported for many years and not any London team.
I'm not saying problems can't be overcome - but I just don't think really is worth it - but what is absolutely certain is that there are many many issues that are unique to a possible London franchise that you'd wonder, why bother. For me it will be like death from a thousand cuts before it even got started.
But these issues combine to have the effect that it would not "feel" like a London team, with a "London" identity. This is really what the big big problem is when comes to marketing and continued interest when the novelty wears off.
So let me get this straight. They would struggle to get people interested because if the players don't live in London year-round then it wouldn't feel like a London team with a London identity. Yet there are already all these "hardened" supporters in the UK of teams from a different country in a city they've probably visited and have no connection to?
If there's one thing we know from the NFL London games with people all wearing their team jerseys, and people on here saying "we" when talking about their favourite American sports team, it is that fans do not need a rational reason to support a team. Many of them probably just started by liking the name or the kit or a certain player. If the team is called London and plays in London then that puts them miles ahead of the other 31 teams when the next generation are picking which team to support.