New Posts For Thread: The high school football coach who never punts + always onside does on-side kickshttps://community.betfair.com/north_american/go/thread/view/94138/30135727/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts-always-onside-does-on-side-kickshttp://bleacherreport.com/articles/1849595-high-school-coach-who-never-punts-explains-his-strategyInteresting stuff. The numbers associated with calculating the pay-offs are probably different at NFL level, but perhaps there's a chance that NFL teamsgreat link.https://community.betfair.com/north_american/go/thread/view/94138/30135727/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts-always-onside-does-on-side-kicks?post_id=536523595#536523595great link.Mon, 18 Nov 2013 14:32:18 -0600the numbers must be very different in NFL than college ball i imagine. IN the video he says there's a 70+% chance of a TD when you get the ball back on the halfway line. must be a lot lower in NFL games hence punting on 4th and long the correct thinghttps://community.betfair.com/north_american/go/thread/view/94138/30135727/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts-always-onside-does-on-side-kicks?post_id=536519033#536519033the numbers must be very different in NFL than college ball i imagine. IN the video he says there's a 70+% chance of a TD when you get the ball back on the halfway line. must be a lot lower in NFL games hence punting on 4th and long the correct thingMon, 18 Nov 2013 08:09:24 -0600says it all really...https://community.betfair.com/north_american/go/thread/view/94138/30135727/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts-always-onside-does-on-side-kicks?post_id=536505661#536505661says it all really...Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:38:54 -0600about 1 in 10 onside kicks are a success I thinkhttps://community.betfair.com/north_american/go/thread/view/94138/30135727/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts-always-onside-does-on-side-kicks?post_id=536503925#536503925about 1 in 10 onside kicks are a success I thinkSun, 17 Nov 2013 06:48:05 -0600I definitely think coaches should go for it on 4th down more often. They are scared of doing anything unconventional because they will take the heat for it after the game if it goes wrong, whereas if you make the safe call the players take the blamehttps://community.betfair.com/north_american/go/thread/view/94138/30135727/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts-always-onside-does-on-side-kicks?post_id=536489445#536489445I definitely think coaches should go for it on 4th down more often. They are scared of doing anything unconventional because they will take the heat for it after the game if it goes wrong, whereas if you make the safe call the players take the blameSat, 16 Nov 2013 09:00:02 -0600Would an NFL team be able to recover that many onside kicks?Definitely some merit in the thinking about punting near your own goal line. The 4th and 7 in the example might be pushing it thoughhttps://community.betfair.com/north_american/go/thread/view/94138/30135727/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts-always-onside-does-on-side-kicks?post_id=536488055#536488055Would an NFL team be able to recover that many onside kicks?Definitely some merit in the thinking about punting near your own goal line. The 4th and 7 in the example might be pushing it thoughSat, 16 Nov 2013 07:30:39 -06004 + 0 = 7 ?https://community.betfair.com/north_american/go/thread/view/94138/30135727/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts-always-onside-does-on-side-kicks?post_id=536483651#5364836514 + 0 = 7 ?Fri, 15 Nov 2013 21:42:29 -0600It's another moneyball theory. Love it. A good thing to show the kids who don't thinks maths is relevant.https://community.betfair.com/north_american/go/thread/view/94138/30135727/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts-always-onside-does-on-side-kicks?post_id=536470343#536470343It's another moneyball theory. Love it. A good thing to show the kids who don't thinks maths is relevant.Fri, 15 Nov 2013 06:33:53 -0600Check out the book Stumbling On Wins in Football By David J. Berri, Martin B. Schmidt if you like this kind of stuff - and who doesn't?!https://community.betfair.com/north_american/go/thread/view/94138/30135727/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts-always-onside-does-on-side-kicks?post_id=536468477#536468477Check out the book Stumbling On Wins in Football By David J. Berri, Martin B. Schmidt if you like this kind of stuff - and who doesn't?!Fri, 15 Nov 2013 00:51:24 -0600http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1849595-high-school-coach-who-never-punts-explains-his-strategyInteresting stuff. The numbers associated with calculating the pay-offs are probably different at NFL level, but perhaps there's a chance that NFL teamshttps://community.betfair.com/north_american/go/thread/view/94138/30135727/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts-always-onside-does-on-side-kicks?post_id=536468437#536468437http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1849595-high-school-coach-who-never-punts-explains-his-strategyInteresting stuff. The numbers associated with calculating the pay-offs are probably different at NFL level, but perhaps there's a chance that NFL teamsFri, 15 Nov 2013 00:40:02 -0600