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Jimmy Diamond
01 Aug 10 17:14
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Backed 'first retirement under 1.5 laps' with bet36* in the grand prix today. Alguasauri had an engine failure about the second corner of the second lap and pulled off the track. I thought this would be a winner but it was settled as a loser. When i queried this with them they pointed out the rule in their sportsbook.............

Lap of first retirement
A two way (under/over) market will be offered for the lap in which the first race retirement takes place. Settlement will be based on official FIA results. (Note: The FIA display the number of completed laps a driver has achieved, so they would have retired on the next lap i.e. If the completed laps on the FIA result is 3 then the driver is deemed to have retired on lap 4 and this will be used for settlement purposes.) If no retirement takes place for a specified Grand Prix, bets will be settled as a 'push'


Basically if someone completes 1 lap and 50 yards it gets rounded up to 2 laps. Is it just me who thinks this is a badly worded bet. Under 1.5 laps to me i interpret as meaning one and a half laps. If your going to round up, why not just say ''will all cars finish the first lap'' as other bookies do. My fault i know for not reading the rule fully but i still feel agreeved with how they put this bet across.

Any thoughts?
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Report GPT August 1, 2010 6:23 PM BST
Unlucky that,not dissimilar wording to that used on o/u bets on boxing with some books where rounds are added up for betting purposes.Not much you can do lesson learned I suppose.
Report Jimmy Diamond August 1, 2010 6:32 PM BST
True, lesson learned. What annoys me is that they are pushing this bet and when i queried it they said that the .5 doesnt refer to half a lap. What the hell does it refer to then! grrrrrrr. How can they say under 1.5 laps and then round it up to 2 laps if a guys done 2 corners. To me that is false advertising if you like.
Report GPT August 1, 2010 6:42 PM BST
As I said that's how a lot of books settle boxing round bets doesn't make much sense to me either though.
Report BradleyWiggins August 1, 2010 6:48 PM BST
My fault i know for not reading the rule fully

End of thread
Report Jimmy Diamond August 1, 2010 7:04 PM BST
Yes Bradley, that may be true. Dont think you need to be such a cap end about it though. Might help someone out in future posting the experience.
Report BradleyWiggins August 1, 2010 7:22 PM BST
That doesn't seem to be the point of your thread though.
Firstly you don't even post the name of the Bookie so how this is supposed to help anyone else is beyond me.
Secondly you just seem after a little sympathy cos you made a small mistake.
Thirdly, how do you measure half a lap? is it 1 lap 1 mile 457 yards and 9 inches etc.
Report GPT August 1, 2010 7:28 PM BST
He does say the books name,read the thread crap cyclist.
Report BradleyWiggins August 1, 2010 7:34 PM BST
ah the famous bookmaker bet 36*, I do apologise oh great one.
He is just a sore loser,  he claims false advertising even though the rules could not be more clear really.
If a driver completes x laps then he will be deemed to have retired on x+1 laps.
I fail to see any problem.
This will only help someone else if they are equally as inattentive.
Report Jimmy Diamond August 1, 2010 7:43 PM BST
equally as innattentive..............? Like yourself Bradley who abused me for not giving the bookie(even though i did). bet36*is a very very well know bookie by the way.

Not a sore loser at all, fair cop i lost. Just wondered if others thought the wording was poor, isnt the forum for debates and things like this? Guess some people cant help using it as a platform to feel superior though. fired an email off to the bookie suggesting the bet could be worded differently anyway. Cheers for the thoughts GPT.
Report BradleyWiggins August 1, 2010 7:47 PM BST
My inattentivness didn't cost me any money though.
Therein lies the difference.
I wish you no harm but I offer you no sympathy either.
Report GPT August 1, 2010 8:08 PM BST
Bradley I wish you harm for being a bit of a dick and a crap cyclist.
Report BradleyWiggins August 1, 2010 9:23 PM BST
That's delightful of you.
You must lead a happy and fulfilling life to wish harm on somebody you have never met.
Well done.
Report GPT August 1, 2010 9:24 PM BST
I do lead a happy and fulfilling life thanks.
Report BradleyWiggins August 1, 2010 9:25 PM BST
I am sure, do you often wish harm to people you meet in real life?
Perhaps you just think it instead.
Report stomp August 1, 2010 9:40 PM BST
**True, lesson learned. What annoys me is that they are pushing this bet and when i queried it they said that the .5 doesnt refer to half a lap. What the hell does it refer to then! grrrrrrr. How can they say under 1.5 laps and then round it up to 2 laps if a guys done 2 corners. To me that is false advertising if you like.**
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It's just like the over/under 2.5 goals for example
Thanks for bringing this up though OP.  I did wonder whether this may have been interpreted differently for F1, but your post has now confirmed it's not
Cheers
Report Jimmy Diamond August 2, 2010 7:15 PM BST
Bet36* have refunded my stake after i fired them an email. They have also said they will look into the wording of the market as they agree that it has potential to be misinterpreted. Not all bad are they!
Report GPT August 2, 2010 8:15 PM BST
Remarkable,your account will now be limited to £1 though.
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