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14 Jun 21 11:13
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Professor Plum, with the needle, in the stables........

Which trainer (s) is Jim pointing the finger at? Surely all winners are tested post race by the authorities at every meeting?

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By:
DeSSieReborn
When: 14 Jun 21 14:25
Denis Egan, Chief Executive of Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board, said:

“The Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board welcome the continuous support of Horse Racing Ireland and obviously share the goals of HRI, and everyone in the racing and breeding industry, to continue towards delivering a gold standard in equine anti-doping systems.

“Anti-doping never stands still. Our strategy has always been to take the right sample from the right horse at the right time. This has been one of the main drivers of a greater move towards out-of-competition testing, which in 2019 represented 18% of all samples taken – up from 7% in 2016. In percentage terms the total number of runners tested in Ireland – at 10% - is comparable to other jurisdictions.

“The appointment of IHRB officials as Authorised Officers will give the IHRB powers to access any Thoroughbred which is bred to race, at any time. No racing authority has greater powers when it comes to inspections and sampling, and this will further enhance our ability to deliver an equine anti-doping programme that is one of the best in the world.”
By:
DeSSieReborn
When: 14 Jun 21 14:36
is 10% of runners enough? Little clarity as to whether all winners are tested within that 10%. Surely it should be so, whoever trains that winner? ie if all six winners on a card are A P O'Brien horses, then they are all tested plus any others that their monitoring systems demand (eg shocking runs that jockeys have no explanation for?) But Bolger specifically speaks of "knowing you are going to finish 2nd" which means he is talking about performance enhancing, not stopping (eg for laying purposes).
By:
punchestown
When: 14 Jun 21 15:45
So where are the statements from the industry denying/agreeing with JB's specific allegations?
By:
DeSSieReborn
When: 14 Jun 21 16:17
Are you serious? Nothing to answer is there? Its just "insinuations" with no evidence. BUT it would make it harder to cheat if all winners were tested, would it not? SURELY the Authorities can organise that? And presumably Bolger would have no further cause to "insinuate", because right now everyone who isn't "in the know" thinks its rife in the industry and no trainer is above suspicion.
By:
olddesperado
When: 14 Jun 21 21:43
No horse is going to be pumped on the day dessie,

Its all done weeks months in advance and anyone doing it knows exactly how long it takes to leave the system.

I'm pretty sure it goes on but to what extent I don't know but one thing I've learned over the years is if something is too good to be true it usually is especially when rumours surround it e.g.. Smyth,  flo jo, Johnson, Armstrong, the Chinese women etc.

Out of competition testing was suspended last March,   16 months ago and it seems to have coincided with a golden period of irish success and major improvement in performance for certain events.
By:
DeSSieReborn
When: 15 Jun 21 09:57
Denis Egan of IHRB
© Photo Healy Racing

The Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board issued the following statement on Monday evening following Jim Bolger's interview in the Sunday Independent where the veteran trainer again raised concerns that he believes there is a serious steroid issue within Irish racing:

The Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board reaffirms to all stakeholders, the racing public, the wider thoroughbred industry and the general public that we are committed to the highest standards of integrity within Irish racing.

Following comments made recently, the IHRB can once again stress there is a zero-tolerance approach to doping in Irish racing and we operate to the highest level using LGC Laboratories in Newmarket, who are one of five International Federation Horseracing Authorities certified laboratories in the world, and the same laboratory used by the British Horseracing Authority.

The IHRB will continue our extensive testing programme with 5,000 samples in 2021, once again including every race winner, additional raceday samples, out of competition samples and now also at unlicenced premises following on from the receipt of Authorised Officer status for 12 employees of the IHRB last month which allows us to access and sample any thoroughbred at any time in Ireland. Each and every one of the samples taken are sent to LGC for analysis and any sample that returns an adverse analytical finding is acted upon, and details published, following our disciplinary process. LGC have been world leaders in anabolic steroid detection for over 60 years and most recently have led detection of these drugs in hair.

In the region of 25% of samples will be out of competition tests, including tests from unlicenced premises. Since receiving warrant cards from DAFM at the end of May, IHRB Authorised Officers have sampled at Studs, Consignors, Pre-Training Yards in addition to licenced trainers.

Denis Egan, CEO of the IHRB, said: “There is no room for complacency when it comes to equine anti doping. The IHRB have shown that by significant increases in testing over the last number of years, and through collaboration with LGC we have been able to take advantage of the science available. Our focus is on risk based and intelligence led strategy which directs us to get the right sample from the right horse at the right time. The appointment of IHRB officials as Authorised Officers further strengthens that.”

Brian Kavanagh, CEO of HRI, said: “Ireland is a global leader in racing and breeding, and that position brings with it a responsibility to always be vigilant when it comes to anti-doping.

“Horse Racing Ireland considers it crucial that continuous investment is made in ensuring that testing is constantly increasing in both numbers and agility, utilising the most modern techniques, and is of an internationally accredited standard.

“HRI has consistently increased its investment in anti-doping through the IHRB in recent years, and that will continue to be the case.

“This is not a closed industry so I would encourage anybody who believes that there are people operating outside of the rules, to contact the IHRB and make their concerns known.”

The IHRB strongly encourage anybody with any information on any matter concerning the integrity of Irish racing to share such details through our Confidential Freephone number (1800 855846) and any information furnished will be dealt with in the strictest of confidence. This has been in place since 2015 and will remain a vital part of our comprehensive strategy to safeguard the reputation of Irish racing.
By:
DeSSieReborn
When: 15 Jun 21 10:15
Old Desperado what you are suggesting then is that the use of steroids is likely whilst a horse is not racing,maybe injured, maybe over the close season, maybe just a holiday/rest period, given time for the bodily evidence of "treatment" to disappear, then come back after the lay off and bolt up with a much improved performance. I'd say careful processing of race results could come up with likely candidates and the authorities would already be looking for that. Of course between 2yo and 3yo theres a lot of growing and improvement that can be expected and some horses improve with age and experience so identification of the ones that have been given performance improving drugs would be difficult to prove without the evidence of a positive test. I guess we'll all have to believe that eventually the authorities will root the cheats out.
By:
DeSSieReborn
When: 15 Jun 21 10:18
And from the latest statement above, its clear all Irish winners are now tested, which is at least a deterrent.
By:
olddesperado
When: 15 Jun 21 10:58
Dessie for that to be true 're the analysis of performance you over estimate the IHRB and their desire to unearth anything unpleasant.

It's a hear no evil see no evil department.

They don't mind the occasional small fry to throw to the wolves and justify their existence but anything which might cause a storm is a no no.

That's my opinion anyway.
By:
DeSSieReborn
When: 15 Jun 21 11:04
maybe jim bolgers much publicised comments will give them the kick up the R's needed then. From what you say, lets not bet our lives on it!!
By:
olddesperado
When: 15 Jun 21 11:15
It didn't the last time he said it and in fact their comment that they had held meetings with Bolger despite assuring him it would remain completely confidential won't be encouraging many others to put their head above the pulpit and come forward.
By:
kincsem
When: 26 Jun 21 19:27
Horses (winners) may be tested.
Who gets the results?  Is there a decision to punish or is punishment automatic?  Is there a nice committee to review the results?
I do not see the heads of Irish racing as crusaders for justice, more a Laurel and Hardy show.
By:
kincsem
When: 05 Jul 21 19:27
Suzanne Eade wins the race to become new Horse Racing Ireland boss

HORSE RACING IRELAND has found its replacement for long-serving chief executive Brian Kavanagh with Suzanne Eade’s appointment expected to be officially announced shortly.
Eade has been chief financial officer at HRI since 2015 and will take over from Kavanagh in September.
Eade joined HRI in 2015 having previously worked as a finance director at Boots Ireland.
She has held other senior roles in the multinational sector including with Procter and Gamble.

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/suzanne-eade-wins-the-race-to-become-new-horse-racing-ireland-boss/499040

A few questions:
Brian Kavanagh of HRI "wins the race" to become the new manager of The Curragh
Suzanne Eade "wins the race" to become new Horse Racing Ireland boss

I am sure we will never find out how many runners were in those races, or who were the judges in those races, or who leaked the result to the Racing Post ("expected to be officially announced shortly").
A small point - HRI appointed a company to handle their Tote cash and about 400k went missing.  Who in HRI was responsible?  Who was at fault?  Was it Kavanagh or Eade?

It is amazing that Irish racing can only give the top jobs to the people already in the top jobs.
You would think that the people in possession of the seats are the best available in the world.
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