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28 Nov 15 18:24
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1.10 GUNNERY SERGEANT@9/2
I have to go back in again with this one as I put him up lto when he would of won imo .
3.30 LEICESTER
CATHERINES WELL @3/1
drops into her first handicap, ran well enough lto @plumpton yard are still firing would of won her novice but fell upsides at the last when looking all over the winner last season.

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By:
slickster
When: 28 Nov 15 19:48
2 beasts with no chance.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 28 Nov 15 20:32
Tony, am going to have to pull you on your language of late. And I don't just mean 'would of', 'could of', 'should of' etc.

Out of interest, how long did you spend in the car par at Newbury searching for a man in a cap carrying a Racing Post?
By:
tony57
When: 28 Nov 15 20:45
Laughvery good oz...I apoligise
By:
workrider
When: 28 Nov 15 22:03
Have backed Bachasson w/p on here ,this is a very promising home and looks sure to put it up to Long Dog tomorrow , G/Sargent was in the process of winning when coming to grief @ Gowran ,will need to bounce back and at this stage of his carrer will find it tough aganist the Mullins pair . Long Dog has the potential to bevery good but there is something about Bachasson that appeals to me .
Monksland is coming to chasing a little later than ideal, but he has a little bit of class about him, and if this were a hurdle he'd be giving these weight and a beating, with his recent debut win behind him he can put his experience to good use and win. That race at Gowran  also produced Don Poli who went on to greater things last season .
Killer Crow was just getting into the race lto when making a horlicks of one , he has the making of a chaser and would be my e/w selection in the 3.10.
By:
callitasucit
When: 28 Nov 15 22:43
I have Long Dog backed ante post for the Albert Bartlett, and also at 14-1 to win any race at the festival, so hope he does the business tomorrow.

Though I wont be backing him, as certainly doesn't see any mileage in his price. I was hoping Ruby would ride Bachasson to increase the price on LD, but knew there was no real chance of that. One he has to ride for Ricci, and two he thinks an awful lot of LD.

I was massively taken by Bacchason too when he won in Galway. That was a rubbish event though, and Ruby said he could name 4/5 better at home already, so is not a star in his eyes.

Still think Long Dog will certainly be better over further, and if he wins tomorrow it will be despite the trip.

The 12-1 available for Any Race is still a good bet IMO.
By:
norn iron
When: 28 Nov 15 22:44
RASHAAN IMPRESSIVE IN BOTH WINS ON HEAVY   ALSO THINK NEWBURY NEW IS OVERPRICED   AS THE DOWN ROYAL RACE MISSY TATA WON WAS WEAK  IMO SILLY PRICE @   4/6

ALPHA DES OBEAX LOOKING FORWARD COULD WELL BE CHAMPION HURDLE CONTENDER    DANGER GWENCILLY BERBAS   REV4CAST

HARVEY LOGAN SAVER VOTE OF CONFIDENCE 

FREE EXPRESSION NAP THINK LOT MORE COME AND WAS UNLUCKY  LTO  SUB LIEUTENANT IS DEFINITLEY GOING WIN DECENT CHASES THIS YEAR WORTH FEW £  AS SAVER        REV4CAST 

KILLER CROW  NB

DECENT CARD AS USUAL  GOOD LUCK PUNTERS
By:
Bigwillystyle
When: 28 Nov 15 22:47
Tony, Gunnery has no chance. Nasty fall last time and won't be mapped tomorrow. Save your money.
By:
workrider
When: 28 Nov 15 22:47
I happen to think he's better over further as well ,just like Bacchasons attitude , when asked he responds , there could be moreto this fellow than meets the eye at present .One firm payed 4 places on Hennessy I heardthem say just before the off although I missed who it was .
By:
Bigwillystyle
When: 28 Nov 15 22:48
It was powers
By:
Bigwillystyle
When: 28 Nov 15 22:49
Norn, Alpha will never be a CH contender.
By:
callitasucit
When: 28 Nov 15 22:51
Never been a fan of Arctic Fire, and still wouldn't be accused of it.....but 1.8 seems on the big side tomorrow.
By:
callitasucit
When: 28 Nov 15 23:13
Seriously good novice chase in store.

I did think Free Expression was unlucky to be beaten by Outlander the last day, but I would be equally as sure that Outlander will improve more. I wouldn't mind a match bet on the OL to beat him based on current exchange prices.

5-6 on No More Heroes or Outlander to win may be the way I go.
By:
norn iron
When: 28 Nov 15 23:37
BIGWILY  ALL ABOUT OPINIONS . LETS TAKE ARTIC FIRE WON THREE IN 15 RACES YES GOOD PLACE FORM BUT HORSE IVE NEVER BEEN FAN OF  AND WE NEED NEW CHALLENGERS  AS IDENTITY THIEF SHOWED TODAY THE brits Devil AINT GOT MUCH AND THE DAY LITTLE KING ROBIN BEAT ARTIC FIRE LAST YEAR MAKES ME LAYER TOMORROW WIN AND PLACE ESP @  2/7 TWO PLACES

MY FANCY ALPHA D O  RAN VERY DECENT RACES BEHIND NICHOLLS CANYON AND DOUVAN  AND THINK HE WILL GIVE VERY GOOD ACCOUNT OF HIS ABILITY

IM NOT SAYING HE WIN C HURDLE BUT BE GOOD  SEE  SOMEONE OTHER THAN MULLINS  HAVE CONTENDER ?

PS    BIG WILLY      SO WHATS YOUR FANCY ?
By:
Bigwillystyle
When: 29 Nov 15 09:14
I agree with you on the fav and I will be laying it.  I'm not saying Alpha won't but even if he does he has no chance in a CH. Same goes for Identity Thief. Not a prayer.

I fancy Ryback Jack in handicap hurdle. Nice run last time in first handicap hurdle. Won a bumper in brutal ground last christmas and think it will go close.
By:
TellTheKing
When: 29 Nov 15 09:51
Bright morning in Dublin but very windy. This meeting was put back to midweek a few years ago (HF, Zaidpour and Jessie’s Dream were the eventual big race winners) due to wind. Hopefully it’s not a repeat today.

I wouldn’t be hugely gone on Bachasson as a racer but he looks to be a fair price at 7/2. There’s a line of form with Three Stars which gives Long Dog the upper hand. Bachasson produced easily his best run yet last time though and may be on the improve. Long Dog has been running over further recently is most likely ultimately a middle distance prospect. I can see Ruby’s logic in picking him on the going but I would say it was a pretty close call, certainly closer than the odds suggest.

It’s an awful ask for Gunnery Sergent coming a week after a fall on his hurling debut. Even if he has the engine to compete (open to debate) he still is very shy on experience compared to Willie’s two. Archive is better than his last run but should come short while Baily Cloud looks Grade 3 at best.

I’ll be backing Bachasson at 7/2 and will be loading as much as I can get on @ 4/5 with PP to be placed.

No strong view on the Hatton’s Grace. Arctic Fire is best on good ground but he might get away with it against weak opposition. The run the last day will bring him on. Wouldn’t be laying him anyway.

The Drinmore is certainly the race of the day and the one which may produce a Cheltenham winner. No More Heroes is what you would draw on a blank canvas if you were asked to paint a chaser. He’s probably the only horse in the race that could be a real top notcher and I hope he wins for that reason alone. The flip side is that he has disappointed once or twice and that doubt is enough to stay away at the current price. A race to watch and savour for me.

There’s a nice horse called Lake View Lad making his hurdling debut in Carlisle. He’s from a good family and was 3rd to Nambour in Punchestown before moving to his current trainer. The form of the main opponent isn’t worth much and, given the weight concession, it will be disappointing if anything more than a competent round of jumping is required from Lake View Lad to come out on top.
By:
tony57
When: 29 Nov 15 12:16
TTK
they paid 70k for it from that yard that some money..i backed it in its bumper @hexham. has the swinbank horse to beat..i,d be on him today if he.d had a run over hurdles..good luck
BWS..i know its a tough ask for sergeant,but I,d be kicking myself if I left him and he won after lto..so small stakes..im more on the leicster bet tbh.
By:
newapproach
When: 29 Nov 15 12:31
The 3.10 @ fairyhouse looks a very open race but I think foever gold offers a bit of value @ 11/1. He is on a lot lower mark over fences than hurdles and the trainer often targets horses @ this course which is local to him. The trip is a doubt but he always shaped like he'd get it and he should go well if he stays.
By:
tony57
When: 29 Nov 15 12:37
anyone got a view on the first?
By:
callitasucit
When: 29 Nov 15 13:28
Easy gold will have an opinion on it soon TonyWink
By:
huddys
When: 29 Nov 15 13:30
Mmmmmmmmm??????????
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 29 Nov 15 15:24
You don't need Easygold, you were all already given the odds-on bet of the weekend.....
By:
tony57
When: 29 Nov 15 16:26
great to see such a little yard win the first callit..I don't know the trainer only that he hasa small string.
By:
punchestown
When: 29 Nov 15 16:45
Pity Townend didn't get after Bachasson a few strides earlier as it surely would have collared the fav,thought Forever Gold unlucky as it got shuffled back a few places just before turning in,thought Rashaan won very well and am sick backing that De Benno but not today of course.
By:
callitasucit
When: 29 Nov 15 20:10
Roger De Bris  • November 29, 2015 3:24 PM GMT 


You don't need Easygold,...........


callitasucit  • November 28, 2015 10:51 PM GMT 


Never been a fan of Arctic Fire, and still wouldn't be accused of it.....but 1.8 seems on the big side tomorrow.

5-6 on No More Heroes or Outlander to win may be the way I go.


Correct Roger.

Quite how Free Expression went off 7-4 is an absolute fu**ing mystery. I would have made him 6-4 in a match bet against Outlander. Who on todays running would certainly have wiped the floor with him.

Very professional win from NMH, proper race horse.

Arctic Fire beat a pile of sh1te in the manner he was entitled to.
By:
Bigwillystyle
When: 29 Nov 15 20:55
Tony I can only tell you so many times....
1. Never back a horse off the back of a fall. 
2. Never back a horse first time in a handicap.

You continually do both.
Like taking candy from a baby
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 30 Nov 15 00:17
Sarcasm wasted on you callit. Leave out the bet of the weekend bit as well.
Looking forward to tomorrow's aftertimed Lays and winners....
By:
tony57
When: 30 Nov 15 11:50
BWS I continuly do not..i backed the horse as I said because I was on when it fell..with respect I don't mind giving credit to anyone when its due..but don't you think your going a touch over the top?
By:
callitasucit
When: 30 Nov 15 12:14
What had the bet of the weekend thread got to do with me Rogergold??
By:
Bigwillystyle
When: 30 Nov 15 14:35
Tony you back a lot of first timers in handicaps and i have said that you can count on 1 hand(in Ireland anyways) how many of them win in a season!

Fair enough about the other horse but he was an unbelievable place lay at 2.2 on Sunday morning.  Even if he had not fallen in Gowran he was taking on two Grade 1 horses.  The market corrected itself before the race but christmas came early for me on Sunday Laugh
By:
norn iron
When: 30 Nov 15 14:49
IN FAIRNESS ANOTHER DECENT RACING THREAD WELL DONE ALL WINNERS

BIGWILLY ID LOVE SEE YOU POST ALOT MORE AS YOU DEFINITLEY WELL CLUED UP AS IS CALLITASCUIT

IN FAIRNESS YOU WERE SPOT ON WITH ARTIC FIRE AND WON THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE

NO MORE HEREOS  VERY IMPRESSIVE AND ID STILL NOT GIVE UP ON SUB LIEUTENANT AS STAYED ON  LATE

FREE EXPRESSION WAS DISSAPONTING FOR ME  BUT CAN STILL PICK UP DECENT RACES THIS YEAR .

ANYONE SEE BABY BACH WIN SAT ?  I NO WASNT GREATRACE BUT VERY IMPRESSIVE AND CAN SEE IT BEING SOLD FOR SERIOUS £
By:
tony57
When: 30 Nov 15 14:49
welldone...Cool
By:
Bigwillystyle
When: 30 Nov 15 14:58
Wouldnt take a blind bit of notice of Free Expressions run.  Had a far harder race than it looked at Punchestown and then was asked to come out 12 days later in a grade 1.  He also lost his backend at the second last so would put a line through that performance.  He will get far closer to the winner next time.
No More Heros had a 30 day+ break from his preious run.  Everything was ideal for it.  You can tell by the betting that the stable thought there was little between them.
By:
Bigwillystyle
When: 30 Nov 15 15:01
Backed the winner in bumper but did anyone think that K Harrington gave her horse a disgraceful ride.  They were sprinting fully 5F out and she was leading the sprint.  Whatever you say about PW Mullins he is nearly always in the right position in a race.  The race was over long before the turn in.
By:
mincer11
When: 30 Nov 15 15:28
Free Expression isnt worth a sausage and is one of the most over rated horses in the country.
He has no line of form that makes him a Grade 1 horse and has been cruelly exposed each and every time he faced good horses.
By:
Bigwillystyle
When: 30 Nov 15 15:36
He was only beaten 2L in a grade 1 hurdle when that donkey McCoy gave him a bad ride.
Everything was against him yesterday.  He was reappearing after 12 day break.  He was only beaten 11L.  Would get much closer to the winner if they met in a months time.
By:
mincer11
When: 30 Nov 15 16:07
Bigwillystyle, my read on free expression is on his first run he was very unimpressive in the worst ever renewal of the point to point bumper at fairyhouse , he then won a maiden hurdle in naas where his biggest danger was that hound uncle danny. From there he was poxed in navan when Martello tower fell, and he subsequently collapsed over the line against shantou flyer. He then went to Naas where he was beaten by the worst horse ever to win a grade 1 namely McKinley , a horse that couldn't be found in a handicap at Cheltenham off 136. This year he was beaten fair and square by Outlander who himself is a grade 2 horse at best, and yesterday he disgraced himself , and was actually lucky to be third .
If he runs in a novice chase at leopardstown at Xmas, he won't even win that .
By:
Bigwillystyle
When: 30 Nov 15 16:20
Agree with most of the above.  However i do think he was unlucky in Punchestown when that doughnut Walsh got schooled by Cooper.  He gave the horse a hard race there.  He was asked to come out 12 days later and produce in a grade 1 where he lost his backend at the second last and was beaten 11L.
If he turns up for a Beginners at Leopardstown he will win.
By:
TellTheKing
When: 30 Nov 15 16:21
Backed Harrington's myself BWS as it's paying to be against Willie's bumper horses recently. Horse certainly didn't reproduce it's debut run which was very disappointing, especially considering the form of the yard. Knew with half a mile to go it wasn't going to win when she went on that far out. All the same it wouldn't have won any bumper yesterday even allowing for the ride.

I'd fall on mincer's side as regards Free Expression. He is a very eyecatching horse the way he travels and would lull you into thinking he's a machine. He remains a good horse but he's not grade one material. The only horse with those pretentions (and it was the case heading into the Drinmore) is NMH.
By:
Bigwillystyle
When: 30 Nov 15 16:28
We will see.  I still think he could make up into a grade 1 horse.

Was wary of NMH after the absolute beating /hard race he got in Cheltenham.  Wondered would that leave a mark on the horse but it seems it hasnt.
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