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19 May 14
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Toe The Line 6.55 Fillies Maiden
She is actually a mare and a bumper winner in Listowel,she was ridden by Derek OConnor that day so as usual came from miles off the pace,this is his preferred way of riding and even more so the septuagenarian John Kiely.
Its also the way Fran Berry likes to ride.
We have a five year old bumper horse taking on flat horses,Go Gentle and Well Hello.
Well Hello finished a mile behind Toe The Line in Gowran but she also finished a mile behind Madam Mo in Tipperary,when they clashed in Sligo Well Hello was an unlucky loser,she lost her action on the bend passing the stands and didnt corner,she still nearly made all.
Go Gentle could be a late developing Dylan Thomas filly,only four so loads more scope for improvement.
I can see Well Hello going from the front and not being caught with maybe a few lads complaining about Toe The Line being held too far off the pace.
Sadlers Risk 8.25 Beginners Chase.
Usually poor races for layers but here we have a flat bred horse in his first chase.
He has only ever won one jumping race,his high rating seems merited on some decent runs in good company most notably at Punchestown but he doesn't win near enough for me and might not be a natural jumper,jockey no longer a plus.
Forever Gold 8.55 Handicap Chase.
Bad race I accept but this fellow is crazy short,he has never won a race of any description.
His current price is based on his second to Easy Vic at Leopardstown,ground was a lot better that day than people realised,its been raining in Roscommon might be slowish ground that's against,is off a six pound higher mark.
She is actually a mare and a bumper winner in Listowel,she was ridden by Derek OConnor that day so as usual came from miles off the pace,this is his preferred way of riding and even more so the septuagenarian John Kiely.
Its also the way Fran Berry likes to ride.
We have a five year old bumper horse taking on flat horses,Go Gentle and Well Hello.
Well Hello finished a mile behind Toe The Line in Gowran but she also finished a mile behind Madam Mo in Tipperary,when they clashed in Sligo Well Hello was an unlucky loser,she lost her action on the bend passing the stands and didnt corner,she still nearly made all.
Go Gentle could be a late developing Dylan Thomas filly,only four so loads more scope for improvement.
I can see Well Hello going from the front and not being caught with maybe a few lads complaining about Toe The Line being held too far off the pace.
Sadlers Risk 8.25 Beginners Chase.
Usually poor races for layers but here we have a flat bred horse in his first chase.
He has only ever won one jumping race,his high rating seems merited on some decent runs in good company most notably at Punchestown but he doesn't win near enough for me and might not be a natural jumper,jockey no longer a plus.
Forever Gold 8.55 Handicap Chase.
Bad race I accept but this fellow is crazy short,he has never won a race of any description.
His current price is based on his second to Easy Vic at Leopardstown,ground was a lot better that day than people realised,its been raining in Roscommon might be slowish ground that's against,is off a six pound higher mark.
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I backed Sadler Risk WMFB. Busty Brown definitely needs to get his toe in(I wouldn't be surprised if he was pulled out again), and the rest are a poor lot. De Bromhead very rarely sends one out unprepared for the task at hand. Granted they are usually more bred for the job than this lad, but I still wouldn't think he would go the chasing route if he wasn't showing an aptitude for it in schooling.
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Busty Brown should run as there will be cut in the ground.
Silk Hall one that could run well at a big price. Its a fair point about Henry De Bromhead,a real good trainer in my eyes. |
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Going@Roscommon Flat soft/heavy NH soft issued at 13.55pm Fancy the Busty lad will be able to get more than his toe in if he faces the starter.
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Whatabout Eddie O,Connell are you going to organise a digout Wildman.
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I thought it would be yielding.
I think Manduros don't like heavy ground can anyone give a more definitive opinion? |
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Cliff House had any amount in hand lto, few winners have come out of the Tipperary race, Taken the 4/1, GL all.
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German wildman, I thought he'd be okay but ya could be right.
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Sadlers Risk a lay for me also , I think they might flip flop favs before the night is out....
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Topped up on Saddlers at 3.1!!
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up against some real donkeys in that race sadlers risk, there was some decent types running in that grade 1 LTO. unlucky
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WD calli. It hacked up
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Well done Calli....decent trainer...excellent jockey imo.
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The main donkey he was up against was the opening poster.
Callitasucit backing it was a real red flag but one I ignored. |
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For the benefit of DJ876 I think someone on tilt is going all in laying the last fav at Roscommon.
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the form was there for you to see, chose to ignore it and go with your theory that you think its possible the horse aint a good jumper.
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Andrew Lynch is having a very poor season JR(open to correction but operating at about 7% for last couple of hundred rides) and his outside rides are greatly limited compared to a couple of years ago.He will be fortunate to hold on to his retainer. Best of luck Wildman,hope you get out but tomorrow is another day.
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yeah whatever
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De Bromhead's horse's haven't been right all year Dj....and a lot of them want decent ground...starting to hit a bit of form now though....might be worth following for a while.
Andrew's retainer is rock solid tbh. |
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Notebooked when it was with Pipe no doubt, Still chalk up the win lad, Top bombing.
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And WD Calli, Called it right, Hope you backed it like a man.
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Impressive stuff from Wildman with one to run
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Why did Russell ride Grand Jesture at Fairyhouse in January for Potts when Lynch rode at the meeting?It has not happened since and obviously different styles suit different horses but I still thought it was unusual JR.
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Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom
Easy money, what a treble, thanks Wildman |
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Stewards surely but they never kick out favourites in Ireland.
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:D
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WD WMFB top bombing treble, amazing
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Laying is the hard bit alright especially when you do it before the event.
I have to agree though fairly impressive to notch up the hat trick. |
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wildmanfromborneo
19 May 14 21:07 Joined: 30 Nov 10 | Topic/replies: 13,842 | Blogger: wildmanfromborneo's blog Laying is the hard bit alright especially when you do it before the event. Yes totally agree, you're much better suited to doing it after the race has been run |
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Ha nice treble that's the way it goes sometimes
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It was Andrew's suggestion Dj...he thought a change of rider might do the horse good,think Andrew finished second on him a few times......one of the reasons why his retainer is safe....Potts and his Wife think the world of him.
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Agree jr about the jockey change on grand jestur
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Would have got it back laying that Torcello in Suffolk Downs only for that dreadful sound of a bucket hitting brick.
I genuinely hope no one was put off those winners by my flawed reasoning. How do bookies survive in Irish racing? |
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Had good punt on saddlers, thought bar a fall it would dot up
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Fair play to Wildman worried people may have put people off a horse that won at 11/8 after being a morning price of 11/4, hmm don't think there is any need to be worried about that one Wildman !
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Leave him alone rocket will ya, no need to kick the man when he's down.
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Ok Irish but he's not just down he's flat out cold and in the back of an ambulance.
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Well done Gutfeeling and Callit.
After a golf bet that lasted 30 seconds and two shorties well stuffed yesterday,afraid of my life to open my mouth today,hope the damage isn,t that bad Wildman but think it is. Disappointing reactions by a few people on here,not really conducive for anyone to put their thoughts up on the forum. |
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Agree with pa, no need to kick a lad when he's down. He made his points and took his chances, we've all been there
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Sadlers won in a hack , well done winners , money came for Meades doubt its the horse it once promised to be ...Wildmanfromborneo put his cards on the table and lost , sadly the gloaters are having a field day ..People who bet like men are few and far between ...
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