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workrider
07 Jan 14 18:37
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I had the privilege of seeing this fellow today , a really smashing looker and looks to have taken to his new job really well ....Others on show included Teofilo , who is simply beautiful ..Casamento was another to really impress me ..Reckless Abandon , while on the small side , was full of quality and looks sure to get some fast 2yos .....
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Report KittyWells January 7, 2014 6:41 PM GMT
What magazine were you looking at?
Report workrider January 7, 2014 6:48 PM GMT
I was in Kildangan today....
Report slickster January 7, 2014 6:49 PM GMT
You've upset him now Kitty....
Report Ozymandius January 7, 2014 6:55 PM GMT
did you see him in action, Wonks?
Report frankalsoran60 January 7, 2014 7:00 PM GMT
i was privileged to see .D.A. winning at naas in his 2year old days W.R. like you say a smashing looker, i hope they get a few  more D.As out from 2016 onwards.Happy
Report frankalsoran60 January 7, 2014 7:00 PM GMT
i was privileged to see .D.A. winning at naas in his 2year old days W.R. like you say a smashing looker, i hope they get a few  more D.As out from 2016 onwards.Happy
Report workrider January 7, 2014 7:12 PM GMT
I backed Hannons against him that day Frank , thats after backing D .A. to win his first race at the Curragh...
Report frankalsoran60 January 7, 2014 7:13 PM GMT
The only race that D.A. DID.NT start fav was in was the 2000g[maybe his best perforemence ] he was fav in all his 11 other races.
Report workrider January 7, 2014 7:16 PM GMT
I never thought any horse that won the first 2yo race of the year , could possibly win the 2000gns...
Report frankalsoran60 January 7, 2014 7:19 PM GMT
im sure it never happened w.r.
Report workrider January 7, 2014 7:22 PM GMT
No Frank , DAWN , WAS THE FIRST...
Report frankalsoran60 January 7, 2014 7:48 PM GMT
That day at Naas W.R. as i looked at D.R. in the ring my mind was cast back 50plus years when i looked at the Roy rogers movies and his amazing horse Trigger ..not even D.R. was better then Trigger.Grin
Report paulie wallnuts January 7, 2014 7:57 PM GMT
looks to have taken to his new job really well....not alone is wonky a paddock judge....but he's a shaagging judge now as well.....there is no limit to his talents.....a real all rounder.....
Report Ozymandius January 7, 2014 8:03 PM GMT
shagging judge Laugh
Report Arklearkle January 7, 2014 9:19 PM GMT
Is he entered in the Triumph?
Report workrider January 7, 2014 9:49 PM GMT
OZY , You never fail to amaze me , you're by your own admission in your 50s , yet you try so hard to be hip or cool whatever it is they say now a day , surely its time for a man of your mature years to come into the real world ..You've been calling people on here dads army , when in fact you are more than likely OLDER than them yourself ..Sadly you are another on here living a lie.....
Report Ozymandius January 7, 2014 10:25 PM GMT
I'm 87 Wonks, and still going strong...yee haw! Tis the great-grandkids that keep me hip and relevant Cool
Report workrider January 8, 2014 12:19 PM GMT
Laugh
Report workrider January 8, 2014 12:21 PM GMT
Anyone who knows anything about horses knows the breeding season has not yet began...
Report paulie wallnuts January 8, 2014 12:26 PM GMT
well how do you know he has taken to his job well then......if the breeding season hasn't begun......
Report wildmanfromborneo January 8, 2014 12:32 PM GMT
He cost me so much money I hope he is useless.
I think he will fail as a stallion,he was a precocious two year old with some temperament,his progeny will be quirky.

Dawn Approach has probably settled in well has taken the the transition from racing well which is what Workrider stated.
Report workrider January 8, 2014 12:33 PM GMT
Paulie , THEY TEST STALLIONS BEFORE THE BREEDING SEASON , I THINK EVEN YOU CAN WORK THAT ONE OUT ....
Report paulie wallnuts January 8, 2014 12:35 PM GMT
So you tested him then....that's ok so.....my apologies......
Report workrider January 8, 2014 12:37 PM GMT
Had the honor of having been invited down yesterday for a viewing Wildmanfromborneo ...Cant say if he will fail tbh , but he certainly has the stamp of a real good one ..His temperament is impeccable so all the signs are good...Sometimes when they settle into their new surroundings they calm down and just get on with the job...
Report by purpose January 8, 2014 12:41 PM GMT
This beats all.Ive had eneough of this garbage on here for to long.Im off.....
Report workrider January 8, 2014 12:41 PM GMT
You see Paulie , there you go again , just because you don't understand what happens , your ego won't allow you accept that you simply dont know , so you try to be smart and make a complete fool of yourself again , You know , i think those lads who say don't converse with him are right , you really are childish...
Report roadrunner46 January 8, 2014 12:45 PM GMT
dawn approachs greatest victory for me was when he came back after the derby and beat toranado, showed you what a great fighter
on the race track he was, sure will be a big success, happen to think those bloodines are progressive. only backed dawn approach
twice and collected both times. shame his racing record wasnt perfect with all victorys to his name, was that type of horse.
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 12:46 PM GMT
did you see him in action Wonks "
This is the level of Ozymandius,juvenile and sad.


1.01 landed.  So easy to flush out!
Report wildmanfromborneo January 8, 2014 12:49 PM GMT
Your myriad of factual errors is always you fishing.
The countless misspellings again fishing.

You always have some excuse.
Report workrider January 8, 2014 12:50 PM GMT
The pity is Ozy hes spot on , you are an old man trapped inside a young mind , and that must be terrible for you , when we all know you want people to think you are one cool guy...sad really...
Report paulie wallnuts January 8, 2014 12:51 PM GMT
the simple truth here wonky.....and this is my final word on this.....and im calling a spade a spade here.....and saying what plenty people are thinking......you were down some stud yesterday.....dawn approach was there....big swingin micky....so what.....you feel the need to people that you don't know....that you were down in this place.....so you post some shiit about Dawn Approach making a good start.....
You just want people to know you were at this stud .....for some strange reason.....and id imagine that most people couldn't care if you were down there servicing mares yerself.....
Report wildmanfromborneo January 8, 2014 12:53 PM GMT
Private Godfrey is rattled,the accuracy of my post has him terrified.

Workrider has him rumbled as well,trying to be a young man when old is stupid.
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 12:57 PM GMT
Accuracy of post Laugh  The endless speculation amuses me, it's not even anyway close to being in anyway accurate bit please carry on!
Report workrider January 8, 2014 1:00 PM GMT
You see , your anger spills out like a river , as i said yesterday i don't care what you think son , but in your head you think everyone is like you ..Your need to be masculine just might be a mask ?...Why you have to be so angry about the most trivial things is a worry , its manic , time after time that little child that never got the love it should have got , shows itself in your anger , go rest up , make yourself a nice hot bath , put some oils in it , a little radox , light a few candles  relax , then make yourself a nice cup of tea , try looking at yourself in the mirror , and tell the little child thats looking back that you love him...God bless...
Report freddiek January 8, 2014 1:04 PM GMT
ozy likes to comment on people's occupations as well as more personal stuff like somebody's relatives whether deceased or not.

I think its about time he manned up and told us a bit more about himself instead of childish innuendo. He has always stated he doesnt live in the country yet on a rugby thread said he watched a recent Leinster match on TG4. He also told a forumite he had visited America on 30 separate occasions.
Report wildmanfromborneo January 8, 2014 1:12 PM GMT
Pater was more than likely a helper in the Irish Lights,ye got your money from the queen which explains your devotion,also got a decent pension,lived in Glasthule but tried to call it Glenageary.

You would have liked to go to Blackrock College but had neither the academic qualifications or the money so did the next best thing joined a rugby club and became a devotee of that game,at one point in your life you were the same as that sheepskinned wearing gentleman in that ad.
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 1:13 PM GMT
what on earth is Wonks on about..masks, Radox, candles, baths..?
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 1:17 PM GMT
Today, Borneo is....O'Shaughnessy, FBI Profiler, attached to Lt Frank Drebbin , Police Squad Laugh

The irony is, if you accept the facts about me that I have divulged to you as being true, then you could fill in the dots and come up with a much more accurate Profile. Your error is to assume everything I have told you is a lie..hence your profile is completely skewed in an erroneous direction.  Funny, though.
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 1:32 PM GMT
Laugh Stunning, O'Shaughnessy, great work!

Of course I love rugby and am an unapologetic West Brit.  If sexual adequacy is measured in number of offspring then you certainly have been trumped, but then family planning was a novel and foreign concept in the 50's Wink
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 1:33 PM GMT
* you certainly have me trumped
Report frankalsoran60 January 8, 2014 2:52 PM GMT
Jesus..WHAT has all this to do with Workriders thread.Shocked
Report silvergreaser January 8, 2014 3:08 PM GMT
No doubt New Approach has got plenty of progeny with raw ability but he seems to pass on his tendency to pull very hard to some of them in particular Dawn Approach, New Approach got away with pulling a train when winning the Derby Dawn Approach certainly didn't.

This pulling trait might turn off some buyers/breeders if he continues to produce hard pullers in the future?.
Report kingrat January 8, 2014 3:16 PM GMT
^^^drunken old fart!LaughLaugh
Report silvergreaser January 8, 2014 3:16 PM GMT
You sound bored ratfingers?
Report frankalsoran60 January 8, 2014 3:19 PM GMT
Only time will tell Silver, but your point is a fair one, D.A. Seemed to get worse as his racing progressed. ..i dont know what his stud fees are but it might put some buyers/breeders off.
Report kingrat January 8, 2014 3:19 PM GMT
relax sil,i am only messing.are u on my nap?u will get yre  gargle money for today!ShockedShockedWinkWinkLaughLaugh
Report silvergreaser January 8, 2014 3:26 PM GMT
Nope, no bet today, too busy taking down the xmas decorations.
Report workrider January 8, 2014 4:13 PM GMT
Frank , he stands at 35.000 and has a full book , i.e..around a 130 ...
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 4:32 PM GMT
Wonks, do any of these Top Stallions go down the AI route and if not, why not?  Would it not be simpler, safer, more lucrative etc?
Report workrider January 8, 2014 4:35 PM GMT
Del , to many possibilities , so much could go wrong and stallion owners would leave themselves open to all sorts of claims , no , nature is the best way , and long may it stay that way...
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 4:47 PM GMT
what kind of claims? That the sperm came form another hoss?
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 4:59 PM GMT
How may stallions hurt themselves in action? That would be avoided for a start. 

They could cover mares all over the word on the same day.  Far more than 130 a year.  More $$$$s, no?
Report frankalsoran60 January 8, 2014 5:50 PM GMT
WITH money like that coming in know wonder so many of the top horses dont run after 4years old.

Unbeaten Frankel's achievements on the racecourse were legendary - but his new breeding career has already easily surpassed what he earned on the track.
One year on from the final triumph of his glorious 14-race winning run, the world's top-rated racehorse is now a stallion who commands a fee of up to £125,000 a time.
By the end of his first year at stud, he will have earned about £15m - five times his total prize money from racing.
And like any sought-after male escort, he comes with rave reviews - "super fertile", "alpha male", "thorough gentleman".
He boasts a strike rate not far off his 100% record on the track - 126 of the 133 mares who visited him are expecting foals in the first part of next year.

IM IN THE WRONG BUISNESS Cry
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 6:23 PM GMT
I made the amateur error of asking Wonks an intelligent question there.....
Report workrider January 8, 2014 6:23 PM GMT
Laugh Frank , Del , if that was the case and they did as you asked , the WORLD would be flooded with horses ...
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 6:25 PM GMT
Why, you could easily control the supply in the marketplace so as not to cause overbreeding, also to obtain the best price/quantity balance.
Report workrider January 8, 2014 6:26 PM GMT
Del , I hope that reply is not too demanding of you mentally  ...
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 6:34 PM GMT
The reply that I have already replied to that you appear incapable of responding to?  That one?
Report workrider January 8, 2014 6:34 PM GMT
The mating game is much harder to predict than that my friend , mares come in and out of season all the time , some are what's known as shy mares and will show no sign of been in season till they are practically mounted ..So having AI on hand would be useless in this case ..There are many other reasons why horse breeders resent even talking about AI...Some see it as destroying what nature intended ...Some breeders consider it a skill and enjoy the challenge of been hands on...
Report richters January 8, 2014 6:34 PM GMT
oz i see another very productive day for you on here...what a total waste of fresh air you really are.....
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 6:35 PM GMT
Anone else have any insight here, this is beyond Baldrick's pay grade.
Report workrider January 8, 2014 6:36 PM GMT
Surely having had a Daddy who owned horses , you should be more  aware of what goes on ...?
Report workrider January 8, 2014 6:37 PM GMT
Del , try the breeding forum , I'm sure they could do with a good laugh...
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 6:38 PM GMT
some are what's known as shy mares and will show no sign of been in season till they are practically mounted

So do they leave these with the stallion for an extended period then? I thought they just brought them to the stallion when they knew they were in season?
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 6:39 PM GMT
Am very familiar with AI in cattle, Wonks, hence my interest.
Report workrider January 8, 2014 6:42 PM GMT
I doubt you been familiar with cattle , unless of course you are MOL'S cattleman , come to think of it ..You do defend him to the last.....Laugh
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 6:44 PM GMT
Turns out it is not allowed by the Jockey Club for thoroughbreds.  Must be a live cover to be registered.

Thank you google.
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 6:46 PM GMT
Ineresting

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/avoiding-artificial-insemination-s-slippery-slope/

Advocates of AI contend there is less stress and risk of injury to the stallion and mare and that the practice also reduces the possibility of an infectious disease outbreak. They also have argued that rules prohibiting AI create a financial hardship because breeders often must ship their mares long distances to stallion farms and pay boarding fees.

Opponents of AI worry a shrinking gene pool would eventually occur since there would be no limit on the number of mares a single stallion could impregnate each year using frozen semen. W.R. “Twink” Allen, a controversial equine fertility professor and AI advocate, said that argument doesn’t hold water, pointing out how some Stud Books are already flooded with dominant bloodlines, including Danehill in Australia or Sunday Silence in Japan.
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 6:48 PM GMT
If AI becomes accepted in Australia, it would be the only country (of 69) in the International Federation of Horseracing to allow AI. But it would not be the last.

The expense and potential for massive losses through disease or accidents would almost certainly move other countries to follow suit if Australia becomes the test case for this red-hot issue.
Report richters January 8, 2014 6:49 PM GMT
is your fingers and  eyes not fkn sore,staring at a laptop every day and typing utter sh1te ozy......try going out to the shops or sumfin FFS......
Report workrider January 8, 2014 6:54 PM GMT
Richters , Thought i saw him in Kildare village yesterday shopping , then i realised , the cattle had just strayed ...Laugh
Report richters January 8, 2014 6:56 PM GMT
the only kildare he knows off is doctor kildare off the tele workrider.....
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 7:02 PM GMT
Thank you gents for your worthwhile contributions to the subject matter at hand!  You can always rely on Richters for inisght and cutting edge profanity-free analysis!
Report richters January 8, 2014 7:04 PM GMT
i think most would agree with what i have posted above....
Report wildmanfromborneo January 8, 2014 7:16 PM GMT
The teaser is used to protect the stallion.

AI is hated for commercial reasons,at the moment some stallions are covering over two hundred mares at upwards of 100 grand a shot,if AI were to come in that income would collapse.

If there was a defect in a stallion AI would be disastrous were he one of the most popular,inbreeding would also be a problem.

The old ideas were a stallion could only cover forty mares a season,this was accepted by all for years.
I think it was the stallion Deep Run changed this,his stud were inundated with demands for his service so they started letting him cover more and more mares.
Wetherbys were so concerned about the amount of mares he was covering they sent an undercover agent to make sure they weren't using AI.
He reported back all being done naturally.

Its an area where Ireland have led the world,Coolmore have been the most innovative and have brought great glory as well as considerable income for Ireland.
Report frankalsoran60 January 8, 2014 7:36 PM GMT
I brought the grandchldren to the  Irish National Stud in the late Autumn of 2012 i have to say that it was one of the most enjoyable times i ever spent with them, outside of a very nice staff it was great to have photos of Kicking king, Moscow flyer, and Beef or Salmon with the kids who did,nt have a clue how famous these horses were, maybe when they become teenagers they can show there M8s the photos.
Iknow nothing about stud farms and how they work but maybe some of you might know the best time to  go to the   Irish National Stud to see the young Foals . T.Y
Report frankalsoran60 January 8, 2014 7:36 PM GMT
I brought the grandchldren to the  Irish National Stud in the late Autumn of 2012 i have to say that it was one of the most enjoyable times i ever spent with them, outside of a very nice staff it was great to have photos of Kicking king, Moscow flyer, and Beef or Salmon with the kids who did,nt have a clue how famous these horses were, maybe when they become teenagers they can show there M8s the photos.
Iknow nothing about stud farms and how they work but maybe some of you might know the best time to  go to the   Irish National Stud to see the young Foals . T.Y
Report frankalsoran60 January 8, 2014 7:36 PM GMT
I brought the grandchldren to the  Irish National Stud in the late Autumn of 2012 i have to say that it was one of the most enjoyable times i ever spent with them, outside of a very nice staff it was great to have photos of Kicking king, Moscow flyer, and Beef or Salmon with the kids who did,nt have a clue how famous these horses were, maybe when they become teenagers they can show there M8s the photos.
Iknow nothing about stud farms and how they work but maybe some of you might know the best time to  go to the   Irish National Stud to see the young Foals . T.Y
Report frankalsoran60 January 8, 2014 7:37 PM GMT
sry the P.C IS ACTING UP.
Report workrider January 8, 2014 7:51 PM GMT
Frank , i was a student there in the 70s , a magnificent place , my spiritual home , early april would be a lovely time to brings the kids , sunshine and plenty of foals around the place ...
Report workrider January 8, 2014 7:59 PM GMT
Just had a look at the 1969 grand nat , what a neat and tidy jockey eddie harty was , wouldn't look out of place riding today...
Report frankalsoran60 January 8, 2014 9:02 PM GMT
ty W.R  Highland wedding was12years old when he won the G.Nat back in 1969 the same age as Rummy was when he won his last G.N. I thought EDDIE was underated as a jockey . i think he was placed the following year as well behind Gay trip ridden by pat taaffe.
Report frankalsoran60 January 8, 2014 9:02 PM GMT
ty W.R  Highland wedding was12years old when he won the G.Nat back in 1969 the same age as Rummy was when he won his last G.N. I thought EDDIE was underated as a jockey . i think he was placed the following year as well behind Gay trip ridden by pat taaffe.
Report yummy January 8, 2014 9:44 PM GMT
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How may stallions hurt themselves in action? That would be avoided for a start. 

They could cover mares all over the word on the same day.  Far more than 130 a year.  More $$$$s, no?

OZY
How would you extract the needful. They don't watch porn you know.
Report yummy January 8, 2014 9:55 PM GMT
frankalsoran60 08 Jan 14 19:36 Joined: 24 Mar 05 | Topic/replies: 885 | Blogger: frankalsoran60's blog
I brought the grandchldren to the  Irish National Stud in the late Autumn of 2012 i have to say that it was one of the most enjoyable times i ever spent with them, outside of a very nice staff it was great to have photos of Kicking king, Moscow flyer, and Beef or Salmon with the kids who did,nt have a clue how famous these horses were, maybe when they become teenagers they can show there M8s the photos.
Iknow nothing about stud farms and how they work but maybe some of you might know the best time to  go to the   Irish National Stud to see the young Foals .

Have to agree.
If you catch it on a nice spring day you could while away a few wonderful hours at the National Stud.
Anyone with kids I would highly recommend it for a day out.
Report Ozymandius January 8, 2014 10:00 PM GMT
Yummy, I believe they use a life like blow up filly to stimulate the Stallion for collection purposes.
Report freddiek January 8, 2014 10:26 PM GMT
ozy i thought with Celebrity Big Brother on you wouldnt have time for horsey threads.
Report richters January 9, 2014 3:44 AM GMT
a good thread about horse breeding by a man that knows,goes racing,punts and doesnt hide behind a keyboard ruined by a fantasy warrior......scum in my honest opinion......well i can tell kingratrockozy or however to **** it is,il be in ennis workin all next week so whenever yis wana go an discuss horse racing or gaa or politics for that matter.... please feel free call into the queens hotel and give me your view.....thanks.....
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