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Report silvergreaser December 23, 2013 11:36 AM GMT
I presume you are on about the Kevin Blake book thread George?

I don't know as the last post I seen on it was Kingrat challenging Kevin to a tipping contest and calling him a liar, there was probably a few other posts after that that caused it to be pulled, some other posters might know?.
Report kingrat December 23, 2013 12:31 PM GMT
for the record sil,i never challenged blake to a tipping contest,u were probably out of it as usual.
my guess is blake got it pulled,he knew the game was up.
Report silvergreaser December 23, 2013 12:47 PM GMT
Bit early to be out of it rat, I think it was around midday when I read your last post.

Sounded like some sort of challenge.
Report thegiggilo December 23, 2013 12:51 PM GMT
Why would he have the thread pulled.
Report wildmanfromborneo December 23, 2013 12:52 PM GMT
It was pulled because the foul mouthed Kingrat descended into his usual personal abuse.

Irish Whisper politely answered all on here,one poster questioned the veracity of his bets,it was explained on umpteen occasions that it had been verified but not enough for Kingrat the usual foul mouthed abuse followed.

Blake is one of the best journalists around,I will read the book over Christmas although I prefer historical ones and hope he manages to win the naps table.
Report thegiggilo December 23, 2013 12:53 PM GMT
It was pulled on the racing forum as well early hours.
Report kingrat December 23, 2013 12:56 PM GMT
^^he could not take the heat and feared for his book sales.
anyway sil,after clerks choice won,u were last seen legging it from the bookies to the pub!Laugh
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 1:06 PM GMT
Playing Devils Advocate here...I don't know Kevin Blake and don't wish to question the man, personally  but

...Some might argue that Irish Field verification of one of their own is not exactly independent. It's years since I saw a copy, but are they not dependent on betting/industry advertising?
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 1:07 PM GMT
Agree it may have been his request,doubt it had anything to do with Kingrat,only other possible explanation might have been seen to be advertising though don,t believe that myself.
It did get a very cynical response in the main on horse racing forum, not sure how many that commented there actually read the book,not many i would think,
Report wildmanfromborneo December 23, 2013 1:12 PM GMT
Its a fair point Ozymandius,I get the Irish Field every week and its one big advertisement.

Its stallion review section is a joke,all stallions are great value.

Its book review section another joke,all books by their own or well known journalists are excellent reads,ones by unknowns are poorly researched or poorly written.

Doubt if Kevin Blake would doctor his figures anyway but it would surely get out if he did.
Report redbait December 23, 2013 1:17 PM GMT
I'd suggest it was pulled as ratty defamed Blake on multiple occasions!

Ratty has been invited to put his money where his mouth is and inspect the account for himself, but he has bottled it and is now lashing out like a scolded child looking for attention. As I said on the thread before it was pulled, ratty's mouth is clearly bigger than his balls/wallet.
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 1:22 PM GMT
Ratty proposed an alternative verification method, arguably more convenient than meeting up, which was declined.

In any event, neither verification methods proposed are bulletproof.
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 1:26 PM GMT
Not true Ozy,as the rat says he is from Dublin,no bother at all to go to one of the many race meetings in the area and get paid a grand for his trouble.So why not go?
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 1:27 PM GMT
It's open to doctoring, Pa, as is the method Ratser proposed himself.
Report wildmanfromborneo December 23, 2013 1:29 PM GMT
Loath as I am to support Kingrat it wasn't because of him.

Gigolo has told us the same type thread was pulled on the racing forum,no sign of Kingrat on that.
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 1:30 PM GMT
Do you honestly think K B would doctor anything, 1.01 would be way too big and you know that yourself Ozy,you,re not thick stupid.
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 1:39 PM GMT
Thank's Pa. I don't know the man tbf and not suggesting he would.  Easy to do though, is what i am saying.

I knew I should have trademarked my other username btw (itcanbedone).
Report thegiggilo December 23, 2013 1:44 PM GMT
The last posts on the racing thread were by myself as I mentioned I had 3 years worth of results did similar thing to blake but mailed them to a collection of people on betfair the night before with prices and also put the picks on an open forum for 2 years all which can still be accessed and i still send out.I just put up October and Novembers results out of interest as I knew they would probably be better which they were,then the thread was pulled early hours.
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 1:47 PM GMT
I don,t know did you read it Ozy but he is meticulous in his betting records and that would in all probability extend also to financial records backing that up,rat would of lost his grand as you well know hence as said by others he either hasn,t got a grand or knew the proof was there.He funked it.
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 1:55 PM GMT
Haven't read it, Pa.
Report roadrunner46 December 23, 2013 2:08 PM GMT
that thread has made this forum popular all of a sudden, the amounts claimed in the book that he won, must say really put me off
buying a copy, im sure lots people are still looking for the holy grail of gambling, dont doubt for a minute that he actually won
those amounts. goodluck to the guy for writing a book, industry needs interesting stories about people winning money from gambling
because in real life, only few chosen people actually learn what it takes to find winners on a consistent basis, know how much time
and effort needed to make a succession of breakthroughs, for an excellent overall understanding of horses, you never stop learning,
its what makes horse racing one of the most complete and interesting of work to do, nothing less than becoming wealthy is acceptable.
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 2:10 PM GMT
If a fellow with his connections in the industry can't make money backing hosses, who can?
Report wildmanfromborneo December 23, 2013 2:24 PM GMT
Ozymandius I am surprised at you.

Most gambling journalists lose
Most gambling trainers lose
All gambling jockeys lose.

This is as old as time despite all the changes.
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 2:28 PM GMT
True, 'most' but not all.  If you are in an information pipeline of that quality and can discern the flak form the good stuff, do your homework, then it is possible to win.
Report tony57 December 23, 2013 2:38 PM GMT
I have no doubt it was pulled co,s of the fool who called the man a liar..it descended into him calling him out twice...when kevin offered him the chance to sort it..as normal..the fools arse dropped again..kevin called him what he is...TROLL..no doubt it was pulled for that or at kevins request..there no doubt that whatever chance there was to ask the man a question on anything is now over...as his last post stated ..im off.....I myself will never reply to the fool again..i only wish others would ignore him then maybe....the site may just get back to talking shop ?
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 2:41 PM GMT
No Ozy,information was all but swept aside,homework(study) wasn,t.Interesting The Giggolo 13.44 "did similar thing to Blake" presume by that you mean you had the same general approach in regards a selection(not really fair to describe it for those waiting to read it), but rather than the negatives on the thread concerning getting on etc surely nothing at all wrong with the way he came up with one though accept we all see things differently.
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 2:45 PM GMT
How on earth do you sweep aside all information?

Did he lock himself in a room and refuse to answer a phone for the year?  The guy works at the Irish Field, right and presumably goes to all race meetings?
Report RoyalAcademy December 23, 2013 2:46 PM GMT
Anyone posting here with a known identity needs their head examined. It can only end in tears regardless of the initial intentions.
Report thegiggilo December 23, 2013 2:56 PM GMT
I've been sending out my picks for 3 years to certain members on betfair 95% of prices sent out night before,so obviously a huge amount of bets that I have recorded plus for 2 years I posted them on an open forum similarly putting them up between 4-5pm night before.I made enough money in my first 6 years of betting to not bet again but I three years ago I deliberately went out to proof my results they are all acessible on the site and all the emails I sent out but over a few seasons and thousands of bets.The people on here I emailed them to I wouldn't know some have hardly ever replied I just wanted some that would keep bets to themselves or looked reliable,so I now have 3 years worth of results I can refer back to with all the figures.Very much doubt I will go back through those 3 seasons now unless asked but I just went through my last 2/3 months and roi was over 90% and at sp 30% short period of time those figures but over 115 bets.
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 3:04 PM GMT
Thanks for the reply The Giggolo,wasn,t sure whether you initially were talking about either similar way of getting a selection or proofing results.Very impressive figures btw.
Report thegiggilo December 23, 2013 3:32 PM GMT
Someone asked me why would I tell everyone the picks,basically I just wanted to prove a point but I didn't want any loopholes so sent out emails to random people on here plus the back up of not one forum but I also used a known tipsters forum where I posted the picks my roi was 5x better than his subscription service under another alias!!ShockedLast couple of nights I've mentioned this on betfair,purely because I saw the thread about the book etc and how figures were unachievable impossible etc,i still send the bets out even now and see it as an ongoing record of how it can be done!
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 3:57 PM GMT
Ozy,to answer your question,its more a good eye and a very good knowledge of racing i think.
Royal Academy you are spot on and it is a pity in its own way.
Like yourself think it can be done as well Thegiggolo and back to the original topic really thought the book despite some of the criticism had enough valid points to at worst improve anyones punting.
Report kingrat December 23, 2013 4:45 PM GMT
this is the thing gentlemen.i put blake on the spot and asked him to put up his lad's a/c.he consistenly refuses to do so.its no big thing to do so,he has nothing to hide.to use his parlance "its as simple as that"
as i have said,if i am wrong,i will apologise to him.
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 4:53 PM GMT
Ratty bring your grand down to Leopardstown,tis only down the road from ya,don,t be asking the man to show his account on a public forum for all to see, said he has no problems showing you,whats wrong? Set up the meeting.
Report kingrat December 23, 2013 4:57 PM GMT
btw whats the odds blake gets this thread pulled?just thought i would get that in,a pre-emptive strike if u like.
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 6:25 PM GMT
I don,t think he,ll be doing that Rat,as said you are only down the road from Leopardstown,why not put a message here and have a meet up.No excuse really.
Report redbait December 23, 2013 6:26 PM GMT
FFS ratty, copy and pasting it on here tells you no more than is in the book and it would prove nothing as it could be easily edited. The only bulletproof way to do it is to look at the logged in account in person as he has suggested as that can't be doctored. Why won't you do it?
Report kingrat December 23, 2013 6:34 PM GMT
u can stand up for yre pal,all u like red and thats fair enough.tbh with u,yre nonsense is of no consequence.
  i will ask blake yet again to put up his lad's a/c
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 6:39 PM GMT
Thats all you can say and that is one sad defense for you, for anyone to put their acc on a public forum. You,re bollixless Rat,you made the accusations and are unwilling to stand by them by meeting the man face to face,internet troll behind a keyboard is right.
Report redbait December 23, 2013 6:47 PM GMT
All mouth, no action.
Report kingrat December 23, 2013 6:49 PM GMT
^^i deal in facts,not anger.
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 6:55 PM GMT
No anger whatsoever,you are down the road from Leopardstown,facts would be shown to you there,why are you funking it? Shure tis worth a grand to ya.I,m not going to embaress you anymore Kingrat but you are spineless after what you said.
Report kingrat December 23, 2013 7:04 PM GMT
poor old pa,yre seething.get over it sport or dont get involved.

     i will ask blake yet again to put his lad's a/c
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 7:09 PM GMT
You are so wrong,i,m not seething in the slightest but thats convenient for you, anything to detract from the truth,indicative of your contributions to the forum from the time you joined Paulie.
Report timberman December 23, 2013 7:14 PM GMT
CAnt see what that scumbag Rathead has written ..everyone should block that waster....pity even at xmas time hes trying to ruin the Irish Forum.
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 7:31 PM GMT
C,mon Paulie,you are gone very quiet,you went along with living near leopardstown for a while(as it was a facet of your latest creation),but shure we all know where you are from.
Report redbait December 23, 2013 7:37 PM GMT
You say you deal in facts ratty yet you are doing your utmost to avoid the only situation where the facts can be shown beyond dispute. As has been said by multiple posters, copy and pasting on here proves nothing. Your squirming is embarrassing.
Report thegiggilo December 23, 2013 7:40 PM GMT
Is kingrat also the poster paulie walnuts..
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 7:47 PM GMT
No.
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 7:49 PM GMT
And the rest,a concerted effort to shut the Wildman up in regards to his views on Irish racing to suit their own ends.
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 7:51 PM GMT
Laugh
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 8:00 PM GMT
C,mon Ozy, we all know what "gang" they are in.
Report thegiggilo December 23, 2013 8:02 PM GMT
Wondered who the pr1ck was trying to tell me what I don't win per annum on the racing forum,strange how they always end uop having multiple usernames!!Grin
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 8:03 PM GMT
Touche, Herr Goebbels!
Report thegiggilo December 23, 2013 8:07 PM GMT
How many usernames this pr1ck got ffs!!
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 8:10 PM GMT
As long as your arm The Giggolo,maybe a bit of playacting in regards KB by him/them but scratch a little itch and by feck it isn,t liked.
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 8:10 PM GMT
Mr 90% ROI accuses other people of making things up.

Feck off back to the horse racing forum.
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 8:13 PM GMT
You are getting very horse racey all of a sudden ozy,how you noticed that.
Report thegiggilo December 23, 2013 8:14 PM GMT
Like I said earlier on thread I have every pick with times sent out over 3 years,especially kept for occasions like this if you're lucky I might just put a few months up I'm sure you'd like that!
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 8:14 PM GMT
I have an exceptional attention span,  Pa.
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 8:16 PM GMT
Its ok, gigilio, we have our own in house tipster on here.  Goes by the name of roadrunner.  He bats at a far higer ROI than you so if you don't mind we'll pass, thanks.
Report thegiggilo December 23, 2013 8:19 PM GMT
Thought you'd like it..
Report roadrunner46 December 23, 2013 8:20 PM GMT
can vouch for gigilo, have seen no one else on the internet go through cards and pick most of the winners, and do the write ups aswell.
only person ive seen able to that on the internet. proven successful gambler.
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 8:23 PM GMT
Its like being given a letter of recommendation by Jeffrey Archer vouching for an individuals honesty.

That said, stick up you picks for the Christmas Season, gigilo, and if you are any good you are welcome to come back and verbally abuse me as often as you like.
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 8:24 PM GMT
A very angry reply at 20.05 Ozy,now i wonder what could have caused that?
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 8:26 PM GMT
I don't like strangers calling me a pr1ck and accusing me of having multiple usernames, Pa.

Plus I needed to create a scene to take the heat off Kinger who I felt was getting bullied Wink
Report thegiggilo December 23, 2013 8:27 PM GMT
Why do you think I replied after that reply,no one speaks to me like that and gets away with it!!Laugh
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 8:27 PM GMT
Sorry Ratser not Kinger Crazy
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 8:27 PM GMT
Ah stop ozy, pure puke inducing.
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 8:28 PM GMT
Who,s kinger?
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 8:30 PM GMT
Mr 90&, I gave you a polite answer to your question, you ignored it and proceeded to call me a pr1ck with multi usernames!

Kindly apologise.
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 8:31 PM GMT
Kinger is a character due for introduction in Q1 2014.
Report thegiggilo December 23, 2013 8:33 PM GMT
pa lapsy
     23 Dec 13 19:49   


And the rest,a concerted effort to shut the Wildman up in regards to his views on Irish racing to suit their own ends


You wanna look at the timings of your postings fella I was replying to this bit of info..Cool
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 8:34 PM GMT
Wrong haha Ozy he called paulie a pr1ck with multi user names(it is all up above) unless of course you paulie and rat are all the same.
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 8:35 PM GMT
I'll take that as an apology.  Now, Mr 90% are you going to give us some winners or not?
Report thegiggilo December 23, 2013 8:36 PM GMT
That paulie numbnuts sounds a right thicko,as though you're gonna do someone on 90 roi ffs!!
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 8:36 PM GMT
It came as a shock to my system, to have some blow in call me a pr1ck, i should have realised he wasn't speaking to me.
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 8:45 PM GMT
We are getting there ozy soon you will be bringing back bobby boccala and rolo and a few others,don,t think it came as a shock to your system just the usual, a momentary lapse of who you were logged in under.Workrider will help me out here, all done to shut the Wildman up,he is close to the bone.
Report Ozymandius December 23, 2013 8:50 PM GMT
Yup, he won't accept that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK and the Cuban Mafia behind the hit are getting antsy.  They sent 'us' on here to derail his investgation with with well argued coherent logical fact.
Report kingrat December 23, 2013 8:55 PM GMT
it looks like old pa has got his blood up!ShockedShockedLaughLaugh
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 9:01 PM GMT
Just a boring old fart rat,saying it as i see it and no smoke and mirrors,why don,t the lot of ye get down to Leopardstown and ask Kevin to sign autographs for ye,he would have one sore hand.
Report kingrat December 23, 2013 9:09 PM GMT
i called blake's bluff and he was found wanting and for some reason,thats doing yre head in.personally i dont know why u care but i will not be silenced!
Report pa lapsy December 23, 2013 9:27 PM GMT
Paulie he called your bluff and you were found wanting,you can,t twist it anymore,see him or forget about it,no interest whatsoever for me and no head done in, Paulie sick of the games on here and for someone that doesn,t post/read on the forum a lot not fair on him to know what he is dealing with.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan December 26, 2014 4:16 PM GMT
Same sh8te another year goes by
Report itcanbedone December 26, 2014 4:24 PM GMT
Stop dredging up auld sh1te, you boring ba@stard.
Report CheltenhamRoar December 26, 2014 4:39 PM GMT
^^^What he said,Gets tiresome ffs
Report Catch Me ifyoucan December 26, 2014 4:39 PM GMT
By Ozymandius on 27 Jan 14 23:40
I don't even begin to understand ur question, Dickie. I have only one other username on here, itcanbedone, Surprised  THATS IT!
And why the above dialogue would convince you otherwise...i have no idea. it is simply not true! loosen up a bit, man.

Happy Christmas Ozy and/or ItCanBeDone.

(off my xmas list) Devil
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