New Posts For Thread: Come all ye legal sophisticateshttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/31473167/come-all-ye-legal-sophisticatesI'm blown away by the news that two men found not guilty in a jury trial have had their application for costs denied by ( as it happens ...just sayin') a female judge.In my world up to now -I thought the normal practice was -you win a case you get coI don't think anyone would disagree with you.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/31473167/come-all-ye-legal-sophisticates?post_id=556288507#556288507I don't think anyone would disagree with you.Tue, 01 Jan 2019 12:01:16 -0600Interesting context there again.I remain utterly convinced that if one is acquitted of a charge by a jury it is only fair and just that one is awarded costs. That applies with extra force in the Belfast case when people were compelled to defend and chttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/31473167/come-all-ye-legal-sophisticates?post_id=556288191#556288191Interesting context there again.I remain utterly convinced that if one is acquitted of a charge by a jury it is only fair and just that one is awarded costs. That applies with extra force in the Belfast case when people were compelled to defend and cTue, 01 Jan 2019 11:10:38 -0600They would have to exhaust all the appeal procedures in the UK first which would cost an absolute fortune.This is a similar case from the Guardian‘It’s completely wrong’: falsely accused Tory MP attacks legal aid cutsNigel Evans backed policy ihttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/31473167/come-all-ye-legal-sophisticates?post_id=556287751#556287751They would have to exhaust all the appeal procedures in the UK first which would cost an absolute fortune.This is a similar case from the Guardian‘It’s completely wrong’: falsely accused Tory MP attacks legal aid cutsNigel Evans backed policy iTue, 01 Jan 2019 10:07:59 -0600Can they bring it to a European court?https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/31473167/come-all-ye-legal-sophisticates?post_id=556287113#556287113Can they bring it to a European court?Tue, 01 Jan 2019 08:57:40 -0600Everything about this case was distasteful,the only winners were the legal teams . Nothing new about that . However up here it is only the top earners who are happy with current situation apparently .https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/31473167/come-all-ye-legal-sophisticates?post_id=556207605#556207605Everything about this case was distasteful,the only winners were the legal teams . Nothing new about that . However up here it is only the top earners who are happy with current situation apparently .Tue, 18 Dec 2018 15:35:01 -0600Thanks for illuminating material.I find the Jackson/Olding costs decision quite shocking. Their counsel made the strong factual arguments that they had suffered loss of earnings , damaging loss of reputation and had lost their jobs -being compelled thttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/31473167/come-all-ye-legal-sophisticates?post_id=556184557#556184557Thanks for illuminating material.I find the Jackson/Olding costs decision quite shocking. Their counsel made the strong factual arguments that they had suffered loss of earnings , damaging loss of reputation and had lost their jobs -being compelled tSat, 15 Dec 2018 12:22:23 -0600Costs News19 SEPTEMBER 2018go backCourt of Appeal makes rare costs order against CPS for failed prosecutionThe Court of Appeal has made a rare order for the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) to pay a successful defendant’s costs after finding that ithttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/31473167/come-all-ye-legal-sophisticates?post_id=556182743#556182743Costs News19 SEPTEMBER 2018go backCourt of Appeal makes rare costs order against CPS for failed prosecutionThe Court of Appeal has made a rare order for the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) to pay a successful defendant’s costs after finding that itSat, 15 Dec 2018 08:51:30 -0600They would be able to appeal but why throw more money away when you have no hope of success.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/31473167/come-all-ye-legal-sophisticates?post_id=556182565#556182565They would be able to appeal but why throw more money away when you have no hope of success.Sat, 15 Dec 2018 08:33:05 -0600Move on to the new costs regime which came in a few years ago.If you apply for legal aid and are refused and pay privately you can recover your costs at Legal Aid rates which is about £55 an hour, you will have paid your lawyers about 350 so you wilhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/31473167/come-all-ye-legal-sophisticates?post_id=556182547#556182547Move on to the new costs regime which came in a few years ago.If you apply for legal aid and are refused and pay privately you can recover your costs at Legal Aid rates which is about £55 an hour, you will have paid your lawyers about 350 so you wilSat, 15 Dec 2018 08:31:15 -0600I can only talk about costs in criminal trials in England but I guess the system is more or less the same in N.I. I am not sure of the timeline but say about 10 years ago a winning defendant could recover some of his costs. The Judge would make an orhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/31473167/come-all-ye-legal-sophisticates?post_id=556182429#556182429I can only talk about costs in criminal trials in England but I guess the system is more or less the same in N.I. I am not sure of the timeline but say about 10 years ago a winning defendant could recover some of his costs. The Judge would make an orSat, 15 Dec 2018 08:13:36 -0600