New Posts For Thread: Rule 4 Queryhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30513935/rule-4-queryI’ll get the after timing part out of the way first. I backed Gentle Cloud this morning, spitting the stake between two Spoils shops. The price at the time as 11/10 while Shin A Vee was 4/1. The later horse was subsequently withdrawn resulting in athats rubbish Jimeen, the rule 4 is taken by the vast majority at the price was at time of withdrawal....again sometimes works in favour, sometimes not.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30513935/rule-4-query?post_id=544972513#544972513thats rubbish Jimeen, the rule 4 is taken by the vast majority at the price was at time of withdrawal....again sometimes works in favour, sometimes not.Tue, 02 Jun 2015 04:39:12 -0500I guess time will tell when I collect the other docket. Based on what Winsamsoon extracted from their won rules the baseline for R4 is supposed to be price at time of withdrawal. Getting a small bit sick of these bookies. Two weeks ago I was in a PPhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30513935/rule-4-query?post_id=544969315#544969315I guess time will tell when I collect the other docket. Based on what Winsamsoon extracted from their won rules the baseline for R4 is supposed to be price at time of withdrawal. Getting a small bit sick of these bookies. Two weeks ago I was in a PPMon, 01 Jun 2015 16:46:28 -0500I actually think they would only take 20 cent, but then again I may be wrong.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30513935/rule-4-query?post_id=544969193#544969193I actually think they would only take 20 cent, but then again I may be wrong.Mon, 01 Jun 2015 16:32:59 -0500From my experiences and again I can only speak from those , the rule 4s are based on the prices the horses were at the exact time you struck your bet, I would say that if a horse was backed from 16/1 to 8/1 and refuses to load, then there would be nohttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30513935/rule-4-query?post_id=544969137#544969137From my experiences and again I can only speak from those , the rule 4s are based on the prices the horses were at the exact time you struck your bet, I would say that if a horse was backed from 16/1 to 8/1 and refuses to load, then there would be noMon, 01 Jun 2015 16:27:54 -0500Sorry the first example is incorrect. I mean’t to say if Shin A Vee was backed into 3’s. Would they apply a 25c R4 (based on time of withdrawal) or 20c (based on 4/1 at time of bet)?https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30513935/rule-4-query?post_id=544969091#544969091Sorry the first example is incorrect. I mean’t to say if Shin A Vee was backed into 3’s. Would they apply a 25c R4 (based on time of withdrawal) or 20c (based on 4/1 at time of bet)?Mon, 01 Jun 2015 16:23:16 -0500The last price on oddschecker was 9/2. This was also confirmed in the office by the staff member. The first time anyone mentioned it was 4’s at the time of withdrawal was when the 4th phone call was made to head office.It may be the case Jimeen. Thhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30513935/rule-4-query?post_id=544969069#544969069The last price on oddschecker was 9/2. This was also confirmed in the office by the staff member. The first time anyone mentioned it was 4’s at the time of withdrawal was when the 4th phone call was made to head office.It may be the case Jimeen. ThMon, 01 Jun 2015 16:19:22 -0500I must say that I do quite a bit of betting in the morning and from my experiences , the rule 4 is always calculated in the way it has been by Boils. The rule 4 is taken at exact time you had the bet. Sometimes it works in your favour and other timeshttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30513935/rule-4-query?post_id=544968647#544968647I must say that I do quite a bit of betting in the morning and from my experiences , the rule 4 is always calculated in the way it has been by Boils. The rule 4 is taken at exact time you had the bet. Sometimes it works in your favour and other timesMon, 01 Jun 2015 15:39:13 -0500Sharp practice from spoilshttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30513935/rule-4-query?post_id=544967939#544967939Sharp practice from spoilsMon, 01 Jun 2015 14:50:33 -0500Looking at oddschecker, Boyles went from 4/1 to SP at 16.18 when the others went SUSP. Then they went 4s again 2 min later and then 9/2 for 8min before they suspended. Looks to me like someone pressed the wrong buttons and they'll claim they were nevhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30513935/rule-4-query?post_id=544966257#544966257Looking at oddschecker, Boyles went from 4/1 to SP at 16.18 when the others went SUSP. Then they went 4s again 2 min later and then 9/2 for 8min before they suspended. Looks to me like someone pressed the wrong buttons and they'll claim they were nevMon, 01 Jun 2015 13:36:03 -0500No DJ, this bet was placed this morning.The staff mentioned a 20c R4 when I handed in docket. I said the price was 9/2 at withdrawal and advised it should be 15c. He didn’t know the R4 deductions table but checked same and agreed that 15c should aphttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30513935/rule-4-query?post_id=544965535#544965535No DJ, this bet was placed this morning.The staff mentioned a 20c R4 when I handed in docket. I said the price was 9/2 at withdrawal and advised it should be 15c. He didn’t know the R4 deductions table but checked same and agreed that 15c should apMon, 01 Jun 2015 12:52:09 -0500