New Posts For Thread: Australia and Yorkhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30330267/australia-and-yorkA major negative for Australia would be Joseph OBrien getting down to 8 .12,its admirable and understandable but it will leave him weak and unable to ride him out properly.Any Australia backers should hold fire because he will drift.‘He has to be up there with the very best’By Tom PeacockA reputation can be made easily, but real achievements have to be earned on the track.At York yesterday, Australia proved his merit as a Coolmore champion in definitive fashion by winning thhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30330267/australia-and-york?post_id=541048049#541048049‘He has to be up there with the very best’By Tom PeacockA reputation can be made easily, but real achievements have to be earned on the track.At York yesterday, Australia proved his merit as a Coolmore champion in definitive fashion by winning thThu, 21 Aug 2014 05:08:59 -0500Not sure there is any upside to taking him to the States?The Breeders Cup is really losing its appeal and his sire ran no sort of race on the dirt at Belmont.While the dirt at Santa Anita might be a little easier to adapt to, it is still a very big ahttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30330267/australia-and-york?post_id=541047943#541047943Not sure there is any upside to taking him to the States?The Breeders Cup is really losing its appeal and his sire ran no sort of race on the dirt at Belmont.While the dirt at Santa Anita might be a little easier to adapt to, it is still a very big aThu, 21 Aug 2014 04:52:06 -0500The gobshee wouldn't know a 128 if he saw it up on a front door......before the race he was telling us mukhadram was better than Australia.....after the race he's telling us that the winner beat canal barges.....leave me alone please....https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30330267/australia-and-york?post_id=541047767#541047767The gobshee wouldn't know a 128 if he saw it up on a front door......before the race he was telling us mukhadram was better than Australia.....after the race he's telling us that the winner beat canal barges.....leave me alone please....Thu, 21 Aug 2014 04:29:26 -0500They will surely take him to the States, little downside, only upside. Unlike the Arc.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30330267/australia-and-york?post_id=541047741#541047741They will surely take him to the States, little downside, only upside. Unlike the Arc.Thu, 21 Aug 2014 04:26:57 -0500Im belive great horses win on all going m8, the breeding stables await and most trainers or owners dont risk there horses on heavy or very soft ground,but you could be right ,i would,nt be surprised if irish champion was his last race.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30330267/australia-and-york?post_id=541047727#541047727Im belive great horses win on all going m8, the breeding stables await and most trainers or owners dont risk there horses on heavy or very soft ground,but you could be right ,i would,nt be surprised if irish champion was his last race.Thu, 21 Aug 2014 04:24:00 -0500dunno frank..with his breeding hes the most valuable potential stallion on the planet..hes 3 yrs old.dont think they will want a war type race in paris..camelots irish derby win on soft/heavy i think took a lot out of the hore.wasnt the same horse afhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30330267/australia-and-york?post_id=541047683#541047683dunno frank..with his breeding hes the most valuable potential stallion on the planet..hes 3 yrs old.dont think they will want a war type race in paris..camelots irish derby win on soft/heavy i think took a lot out of the hore.wasnt the same horse afThu, 21 Aug 2014 04:12:33 -0500i seem to remember Treve won from a poor draw as year ; and she sweated badly before the race and she still won by 5L, So if Australia is good enough he will win kavvie.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30330267/australia-and-york?post_id=541047617#541047617i seem to remember Treve won from a poor draw as year ; and she sweated badly before the race and she still won by 5L, So if Australia is good enough he will win kavvie.Thu, 21 Aug 2014 04:03:38 -0500So 128 is the provisional rating that has been assigned to Australia, which despite not meeting the approval of The Gotchee, looks reasonable given that he won with a bit in hand.He will not increase his rating by winning the Irish Champion, but if Thttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30330267/australia-and-york?post_id=541047515#541047515So 128 is the provisional rating that has been assigned to Australia, which despite not meeting the approval of The Gotchee, looks reasonable given that he won with a bit in hand.He will not increase his rating by winning the Irish Champion, but if TThu, 21 Aug 2014 03:42:58 -0500the arc mightnt suit id think?usually soft ground at that time of year in paris.draw vital there also as its usually a big field.if he got drawn on the outside in a big field on soft going he would have no chance no matter how good he is.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30330267/australia-and-york?post_id=541047435#541047435the arc mightnt suit id think?usually soft ground at that time of year in paris.draw vital there also as its usually a big field.if he got drawn on the outside in a big field on soft going he would have no chance no matter how good he is.Thu, 21 Aug 2014 03:23:04 -0500Good performance today by Australia against a few canal barges. Still, you can only beat what is put up against you. To try and suggest that his run today was equivalent to a mark of 129 is a bit of an over reaction, 124 at best in my book and to sughttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30330267/australia-and-york?post_id=541040653#541040653Good performance today by Australia against a few canal barges. Still, you can only beat what is put up against you. To try and suggest that his run today was equivalent to a mark of 129 is a bit of an over reaction, 124 at best in my book and to sugWed, 20 Aug 2014 15:53:04 -0500