New Posts For Thread: Butler , weightlifters , body builders , cyclists , athletes ...etc etchttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30149503/butler-weightlifters-body-builders-cyclists-athletes-etc-etcKeeps popping up , the use of substances to boost performance . First evidence I came across ( my own eyes) involved horses trained by 2 trainers in England . First one had sprinters mainly who transferred from other yards , couldn't stay 5 furlongsSure as long as he thinks his sport is in good shape, that's all that matters. The real world is the only one that counts.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30149503/butler-weightlifters-body-builders-cyclists-athletes-etc-etc?post_id=536822399#536822399Sure as long as he thinks his sport is in good shape, that's all that matters. The real world is the only one that counts.Sun, 08 Dec 2013 15:00:01 -0600rocket im off to work soon..your stupidity is breathtaking..i kno ur trying to rise me and gant.!...i agree with you..gooch berard brogan james donoghue michael murphy daniel goulding cillian o connor etc are brutes with no skill!!https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30149503/butler-weightlifters-body-builders-cyclists-athletes-etc-etc?post_id=536821125#536821125rocket im off to work soon..your stupidity is breathtaking..i kno ur trying to rise me and gant.!...i agree with you..gooch berard brogan james donoghue michael murphy daniel goulding cillian o connor etc are brutes with no skill!!Sun, 08 Dec 2013 14:16:53 -0600dont forget the doctor linked with the EPO in cycling said if he told what he knew Spain would have to give back the last World Cup....https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30149503/butler-weightlifters-body-builders-cyclists-athletes-etc-etc?post_id=536820609#536820609dont forget the doctor linked with the EPO in cycling said if he told what he knew Spain would have to give back the last World Cup....Sun, 08 Dec 2013 13:49:20 -0600Rocketfingers........At least people still come to watch it. Your sport lost it all years ago.I see the IRFU have vowed not to let grassroots rugby in Ireland slip.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30149503/butler-weightlifters-body-builders-cyclists-athletes-etc-etc?post_id=536814119#536814119Rocketfingers........At least people still come to watch it. Your sport lost it all years ago.I see the IRFU have vowed not to let grassroots rugby in Ireland slip.Sun, 08 Dec 2013 06:56:33 -0600Please don't forget GAA Footballers, this a sport now without skill, if there ever was ever any, just sheer brute ignorance and force.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30149503/butler-weightlifters-body-builders-cyclists-athletes-etc-etc?post_id=536813963#536813963Please don't forget GAA Footballers, this a sport now without skill, if there ever was ever any, just sheer brute ignorance and force.Sun, 08 Dec 2013 06:44:02 -0600It got too a point, several years ago that players became too bulked up, mobilty suffered and the injury count increased as joints couldn't cope with the extra weight.Targets were reassessed and players bulked right down.The genuine big men in worldhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30149503/butler-weightlifters-body-builders-cyclists-athletes-etc-etc?post_id=536813907#536813907It got too a point, several years ago that players became too bulked up, mobilty suffered and the injury count increased as joints couldn't cope with the extra weight.Targets were reassessed and players bulked right down.The genuine big men in worldSun, 08 Dec 2013 06:40:56 -0600That too, Greaser, but I mean smaller overall, less bulk.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30149503/butler-weightlifters-body-builders-cyclists-athletes-etc-etc?post_id=536813803#536813803That too, Greaser, but I mean smaller overall, less bulk.Sun, 08 Dec 2013 06:33:26 -0600If you mean by "leaner" ozy that they don't have any floppy fat then I agree with you, all turned into muscle.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30149503/butler-weightlifters-body-builders-cyclists-athletes-etc-etc?post_id=536813679#536813679If you mean by "leaner" ozy that they don't have any floppy fat then I agree with you, all turned into muscle.Sun, 08 Dec 2013 06:23:05 -0600Incorret. Rugby players have been getting leaner for several years now.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30149503/butler-weightlifters-body-builders-cyclists-athletes-etc-etc?post_id=536813521#536813521Incorret. Rugby players have been getting leaner for several years now.Sun, 08 Dec 2013 06:11:13 -0600Not despairing , silver . One of the reasons I started the thread is that I have "Seven Deadly Sins" by David Walsh sitting on my desk , and thought there might be some aspects of the "drug" scene in sport which would add to the reading / interest inhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30149503/butler-weightlifters-body-builders-cyclists-athletes-etc-etc?post_id=536813341#536813341Not despairing , silver . One of the reasons I started the thread is that I have "Seven Deadly Sins" by David Walsh sitting on my desk , and thought there might be some aspects of the "drug" scene in sport which would add to the reading / interest inSun, 08 Dec 2013 05:53:38 -0600