New Posts For Thread: USA sporting declinehttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30050739/usa-sporting-declineBound to happen as the rest of the developing world caught up but Europe now competing far more.Take tennis -only two US men in world top 80 ( 22 and 28).Women's tennis equally depleted -when Williams sisters retire it will be a pretty bare cupboard.Agree with the cyclical argument, this is a country that churns out brilliant athletes and it is only a matter of time before one of them has their attention turned to the international sphere.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30050739/usa-sporting-decline?post_id=534917653#534917653Agree with the cyclical argument, this is a country that churns out brilliant athletes and it is only a matter of time before one of them has their attention turned to the international sphere.Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:55:57 -0500El gato , if you stood by the first tee on most courses in America on mens captains day you would probably endorse Vubiants initial comments re golf . The average golfer in America is rubbish , you only have to watch some of the pro ams from USA on Thttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30050739/usa-sporting-decline?post_id=534917489#534917489El gato , if you stood by the first tee on most courses in America on mens captains day you would probably endorse Vubiants initial comments re golf . The average golfer in America is rubbish , you only have to watch some of the pro ams from USA on TWed, 21 Aug 2013 17:47:38 -0500Theres certainly no Connors, McEnroe, Sampras, Agassi around now. But these things are cyclical. Its not that long ago that there wasn't a single English golfer in the worlds top 100.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30050739/usa-sporting-decline?post_id=534917277#534917277Theres certainly no Connors, McEnroe, Sampras, Agassi around now. But these things are cyclical. Its not that long ago that there wasn't a single English golfer in the worlds top 100.Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:35:45 -0500In relative terms their men's game has........wouldn't be too sure about women's tennis though.But we're only re-iterating the whole thing again.(1) Its as much other countries catching-up, as much as a decline, golf/tennis in particular(2) The mis-uhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30050739/usa-sporting-decline?post_id=534917067#534917067In relative terms their men's game has........wouldn't be too sure about women's tennis though.But we're only re-iterating the whole thing again.(1) Its as much other countries catching-up, as much as a decline, golf/tennis in particular(2) The mis-uWed, 21 Aug 2013 17:28:21 -0500its ludicrous to say their tennis hasnt declined. like golf, America used to own the team competitions. When was the last time a Davis Cup was won by the Yanks? perhaps one in the last ten years. Spain now rules it. Just like singles. Americans winnihttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30050739/usa-sporting-decline?post_id=534916933#534916933its ludicrous to say their tennis hasnt declined. like golf, America used to own the team competitions. When was the last time a Davis Cup was won by the Yanks? perhaps one in the last ten years. Spain now rules it. Just like singles. Americans winniWed, 21 Aug 2013 17:23:35 -0500Agree, think Mens tennis at its peak. Outside of Big 4, Tsonga, Berdych, and Del Potro and Roddick (before retirement) are brilliant players. Many of the Top 20 are formidable.......definitely stronger than Borg/Connors/McEnroe era or Sampras/Agassihttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30050739/usa-sporting-decline?post_id=534916809#534916809Agree, think Mens tennis at its peak. Outside of Big 4, Tsonga, Berdych, and Del Potro and Roddick (before retirement) are brilliant players. Many of the Top 20 are formidable.......definitely stronger than Borg/Connors/McEnroe era or Sampras/AgassiWed, 21 Aug 2013 17:18:12 -0500In contrast , the top 4 men tennis players are superlative , among the best of all time , and not a Yank in sight .https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30050739/usa-sporting-decline?post_id=534916469#534916469In contrast , the top 4 men tennis players are superlative , among the best of all time , and not a Yank in sight .Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:01:18 -0500Don't think its correct to call it a sporting decline for the US in Golf and Tennis. Other countries have simply caught up. Forty years golf was played in America, Britain and Ireland and a few good Aussies. Global game now. Any good eastern Europeanhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30050739/usa-sporting-decline?post_id=534916401#534916401Don't think its correct to call it a sporting decline for the US in Golf and Tennis. Other countries have simply caught up. Forty years golf was played in America, Britain and Ireland and a few good Aussies. Global game now. Any good eastern EuropeanWed, 21 Aug 2013 16:57:26 -0500Wallflower , everything is relative . If Wozniaki is no 8 , how good is 17 or 25 ? The measure of ability / sporting prowess is the opposition often . Apart from Serena and occasionally Sharapova the womens tennis is woeful , the worst standard in lihttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30050739/usa-sporting-decline?post_id=534916381#534916381Wallflower , everything is relative . If Wozniaki is no 8 , how good is 17 or 25 ? The measure of ability / sporting prowess is the opposition often . Apart from Serena and occasionally Sharapova the womens tennis is woeful , the worst standard in liWed, 21 Aug 2013 16:56:30 -0500Oh, perhaps to add insult to injury......Sloane Stephens the daughter of a former NFL running-backhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/30050739/usa-sporting-decline?post_id=534916153#534916153Oh, perhaps to add insult to injury......Sloane Stephens the daughter of a former NFL running-backWed, 21 Aug 2013 16:46:33 -0500