New Posts For Thread: Frankel and other greats in my racing lifetimehttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29449769/frankel-and-other-greats-in-my-racing-lifetimeOnly my OpinionFrankel 1stShergar 2ndDancing Brave 3rd (slighty overrated IMO)El Gran Senor 4thSee The Stars 5thDubai Mill the most overated horse in the last 30yrs IMO .....The apple of the Sheikh;s eye so dont upset him and also the owner of the raSilvergreaser has changed since the halcyon days of Golden Fleece,the worst case of stopping I ever saw was the job done on Assert the day Golden Fleece beat him at Leopardstown.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29449769/frankel-and-other-greats-in-my-racing-lifetime?post_id=525403527#525403527Silvergreaser has changed since the halcyon days of Golden Fleece,the worst case of stopping I ever saw was the job done on Assert the day Golden Fleece beat him at Leopardstown.Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:14:48 -0500Big fan of Golden fleece but he only ran 4 times and as much as i liked the horse could never include him as he never truely proved himself folowing an injuryhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29449769/frankel-and-other-greats-in-my-racing-lifetime?post_id=525377573#525377573Big fan of Golden fleece but he only ran 4 times and as much as i liked the horse could never include him as he never truely proved himself folowing an injuryTue, 23 Oct 2012 03:58:29 -0500Ozymandius 21 Oct 12 09:31The greatest ever? Usually a difficult question to answer. Not in this case It is US legend Secretariat. He broke three track records to win the 1973 US Triple Crown which, incredibly, all still stand today. His time of twhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29449769/frankel-and-other-greats-in-my-racing-lifetime?post_id=525375511#525375511Ozymandius 21 Oct 12 09:31The greatest ever? Usually a difficult question to answer. Not in this case It is US legend Secretariat. He broke three track records to win the 1973 US Triple Crown which, incredibly, all still stand today. His time of twTue, 23 Oct 2012 00:14:23 -0500sea the stars run in the arc was the most impressive i've ever seen a horse run. for a horse to pull so much and still win. frankels run in the 2000 guineas was special aswell, with all his runs really.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29449769/frankel-and-other-greats-in-my-racing-lifetime?post_id=525370293#525370293sea the stars run in the arc was the most impressive i've ever seen a horse run. for a horse to pull so much and still win. frankels run in the 2000 guineas was special aswell, with all his runs really.Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:46:41 -0500true.watched GF derby on youtube recently, one of the more impressive derby winners i've seen. reminded me a bit of Galileo.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29449769/frankel-and-other-greats-in-my-racing-lifetime?post_id=525368481#525368481true.watched GF derby on youtube recently, one of the more impressive derby winners i've seen. reminded me a bit of Galileo.Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:35:17 -0500We're all tied to our age, hence why I think Golden Fleece could've been the super horse he looked like in the the Derby, Don't forget he beat a horse called Assert twice, to say Pat could've went through a whole packet of cigars such was the horseshttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29449769/frankel-and-other-greats-in-my-racing-lifetime?post_id=525364405#525364405We're all tied to our age, hence why I think Golden Fleece could've been the super horse he looked like in the the Derby, Don't forget he beat a horse called Assert twice, to say Pat could've went through a whole packet of cigars such was the horsesMon, 22 Oct 2012 15:28:23 -0500i agree. i dont mind the lack of travel per say but the reason he IS unbeaten is because he raced over a mile almost his entire career and other than his last ever race was he asked to actually run in a race where conditions didnt 100% suit him.had hhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29449769/frankel-and-other-greats-in-my-racing-lifetime?post_id=525358191#525358191i agree. i dont mind the lack of travel per say but the reason he IS unbeaten is because he raced over a mile almost his entire career and other than his last ever race was he asked to actually run in a race where conditions didnt 100% suit him.had hMon, 22 Oct 2012 12:45:54 -0500Well in my opinion he can never be described as best ever for the very reason he didnt travel anywhere. Dancing brave was beaten in the breeders cup, Nijinsky lost in the Arc and I would hold both of them horses in a higher regard despite those defeahttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29449769/frankel-and-other-greats-in-my-racing-lifetime?post_id=525357813#525357813Well in my opinion he can never be described as best ever for the very reason he didnt travel anywhere. Dancing brave was beaten in the breeders cup, Nijinsky lost in the Arc and I would hold both of them horses in a higher regard despite those defeaMon, 22 Oct 2012 12:35:37 -0500If he had been beaten it would also have knocked on the head "the best ever" possibility .Any defeat would have weakened the concept of invincibility which is a factor in owners ( any) thinking when they have a horse of the calibre of a Frankel or ithttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29449769/frankel-and-other-greats-in-my-racing-lifetime?post_id=525357013#525357013If he had been beaten it would also have knocked on the head "the best ever" possibility .Any defeat would have weakened the concept of invincibility which is a factor in owners ( any) thinking when they have a horse of the calibre of a Frankel or itMon, 22 Oct 2012 12:12:55 -050050 million to Prince Khalid is 50 quid to me and you Kelly.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29449769/frankel-and-other-greats-in-my-racing-lifetime?post_id=525348481#52534848150 million to Prince Khalid is 50 quid to me and you Kelly.Mon, 22 Oct 2012 06:40:17 -0500