New Posts For Thread: John Oxx A Poor Trainer.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29358547/john-oxx-a-poor-trainerControversial yes but before ye lose your collective minds consider the facts.When the Aga Khan bought the best of Marcel Boussacs breeding stock he increased his horses threefold,he distributed his horses between France,England and Ireland.Marcel BoLooking at the stats it does not really back up that he was in decline to a great extent before 2009, although he did not have the same quality. He really seems to have fallen off a cliff from end of 2012 alright.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29358547/john-oxx-a-poor-trainer?post_id=548973215#548973215Looking at the stats it does not really back up that he was in decline to a great extent before 2009, although he did not have the same quality. He really seems to have fallen off a cliff from end of 2012 alright.Sat, 11 Jun 2016 04:20:25 -0500Was Oxx not firmly on the wane before Sea The Stars came along. He had one other promising horse at around a mile and then Alandi developed into a high stayer, but he was already a shadow of the stable that he had been. The fact that he seems to be ahttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29358547/john-oxx-a-poor-trainer?post_id=548973139#548973139Was Oxx not firmly on the wane before Sea The Stars came along. He had one other promising horse at around a mile and then Alandi developed into a high stayer, but he was already a shadow of the stable that he had been. The fact that he seems to be aSat, 11 Jun 2016 04:04:41 -0500Royal Academy must have been on holidays when Harzand won the Derby.He also uses the word arbitrarily when picking the year 2000 for some of his stats,it certainly doesn't look that way.The thrust of the whole argument was the time John Oxx had all thttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29358547/john-oxx-a-poor-trainer?post_id=548972953#548972953Royal Academy must have been on holidays when Harzand won the Derby.He also uses the word arbitrarily when picking the year 2000 for some of his stats,it certainly doesn't look that way.The thrust of the whole argument was the time John Oxx had all tSat, 11 Jun 2016 03:22:36 -0500Would prefer past prime to poor as a description. But you now call him shot. People allude a lot on here to the juice. I could never see John Oxx using the juice. I wonder is there anything in it. No winners yet is astonishing though. Oxxs legacy ishttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29358547/john-oxx-a-poor-trainer?post_id=548971297#548971297Would prefer past prime to poor as a description. But you now call him shot. People allude a lot on here to the juice. I could never see John Oxx using the juice. I wonder is there anything in it. No winners yet is astonishing though. Oxxs legacy isFri, 10 Jun 2016 18:35:09 -0500It's very hard to say what happened to John Oxx but up to the time he trained for the AK (2014 from an arbitrary base year of 2000) he had a strike-rate of 17% and 23% in Ireland and the UK respectively. This compares to Weld's strike-rate over the shttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29358547/john-oxx-a-poor-trainer?post_id=548966285#548966285It's very hard to say what happened to John Oxx but up to the time he trained for the AK (2014 from an arbitrary base year of 2000) he had a strike-rate of 17% and 23% in Ireland and the UK respectively. This compares to Weld's strike-rate over the sFri, 10 Jun 2016 12:24:23 -0500Yes and its a terrible sad state of affairs , maybe its because people expect a quicker return on their money than yesteryear .You don't become a bad trainer over night ,he had virus issues which didn't help.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29358547/john-oxx-a-poor-trainer?post_id=548964383#548964383Yes and its a terrible sad state of affairs , maybe its because people expect a quicker return on their money than yesteryear .You don't become a bad trainer over night ,he had virus issues which didn't help.Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:41:23 -0500No doubt John Oxx has seen better days, Its hard to get to the top ;but its much harder to stay there.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29358547/john-oxx-a-poor-trainer?post_id=548963689#548963689No doubt John Oxx has seen better days, Its hard to get to the top ;but its much harder to stay there.Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:43:23 -0500Joseph OBrien got 4 winners on his first day holding a licence.John Oxx hasn't had a winner this year,none.Meanwhile Weld wins the Derby with an Aga Khan horse.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29358547/john-oxx-a-poor-trainer?post_id=548961913#548961913Joseph OBrien got 4 winners on his first day holding a licence.John Oxx hasn't had a winner this year,none.Meanwhile Weld wins the Derby with an Aga Khan horse.Fri, 10 Jun 2016 05:42:03 -0500This is right up here with the time Wildman started a thread laughing at someone tipping up Joseph O'Brien for the jockey title at 9/2, only for O'Brien to oblige He may not have been the best jockey but he had the best and most ammo and guns, Wildmhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29358547/john-oxx-a-poor-trainer?post_id=539436341#539436341This is right up here with the time Wildman started a thread laughing at someone tipping up Joseph O'Brien for the jockey title at 9/2, only for O'Brien to oblige He may not have been the best jockey but he had the best and most ammo and guns, WildmSat, 17 May 2014 04:15:48 -0500With every day that passes Dermot Weld is proving the prescience of this thread.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29358547/john-oxx-a-poor-trainer?post_id=539436305#539436305With every day that passes Dermot Weld is proving the prescience of this thread.Sat, 17 May 2014 04:08:33 -0500