New Posts For Thread: the Media must be beside themselves, Fairyhouse National?https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29052017/the-media-must-be-beside-themselves-fairyhouse-nationalnobody like Ruby, Willie, Tony, Dermot etc to call a genius, just a rookie trainer and jockey proving thats its horses that make the world of horse racing go round not humans, Tom Foley, The Bowe family, Cyril Griffith etc will testify to that.But doI believe he was yes.The way he succeeded in both codes was unbelievable and his achievements imo will never be equalled let alone surpassed.Of course that's just my humble opinion.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29052017/the-media-must-be-beside-themselves-fairyhouse-national?post_id=518449197#518449197I believe he was yes.The way he succeeded in both codes was unbelievable and his achievements imo will never be equalled let alone surpassed.Of course that's just my humble opinion.Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:49:00 -0500Vincent O'Brien a genius monte?, in one sense of the word yeh, he was certainly a visionary, he single handedly transformed European racing by recognising the durability, toughness and speed of the North American bred horses, where would John Magnierhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29052017/the-media-must-be-beside-themselves-fairyhouse-national?post_id=518448989#518448989Vincent O'Brien a genius monte?, in one sense of the word yeh, he was certainly a visionary, he single handedly transformed European racing by recognising the durability, toughness and speed of the North American bred horses, where would John MagnierTue, 10 Apr 2012 07:42:17 -0500I think you will find alot of the journey men have screwed up a few decent horses also.A capable enough journey man trainer near me came across a decent 4 yo pointer a few years ago and the first thing he did was advise the lads to sell it or send ithttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29052017/the-media-must-be-beside-themselves-fairyhouse-national?post_id=518448983#518448983I think you will find alot of the journey men have screwed up a few decent horses also.A capable enough journey man trainer near me came across a decent 4 yo pointer a few years ago and the first thing he did was advise the lads to sell it or send itTue, 10 Apr 2012 07:42:00 -0500Some fair points there silvergreaser.I was not having a pop at you by the way.Speaking personally and i would imagine most on here look at a horse on it's merits rather than who trains/rides it.If the bookies make an error in properly pricing up it'shttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29052017/the-media-must-be-beside-themselves-fairyhouse-national?post_id=518448739#518448739Some fair points there silvergreaser.I was not having a pop at you by the way.Speaking personally and i would imagine most on here look at a horse on it's merits rather than who trains/rides it.If the bookies make an error in properly pricing up it'sTue, 10 Apr 2012 07:32:15 -0500Its true gant, and bookmakers usually take the bait, a horse ridden by Ruby, Tony or Frankie, Ryan ,Kieren etc are usually priced up a lot shorter than the horses abilty deserves of course they ride plenty of favs anyway because they've the reputatiohttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29052017/the-media-must-be-beside-themselves-fairyhouse-national?post_id=518448445#518448445Its true gant, and bookmakers usually take the bait, a horse ridden by Ruby, Tony or Frankie, Ryan ,Kieren etc are usually priced up a lot shorter than the horses abilty deserves of course they ride plenty of favs anyway because they've the reputatioTue, 10 Apr 2012 07:23:27 -0500Punters are creatures of habit and will go for the tried and trusted.Flemenstar is a cracking horse and the Caseys know this might be the only bite they get at the gold cup..........play safe and then travel over.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29052017/the-media-must-be-beside-themselves-fairyhouse-national?post_id=518448043#518448043Punters are creatures of habit and will go for the tried and trusted.Flemenstar is a cracking horse and the Caseys know this might be the only bite they get at the gold cup..........play safe and then travel over.Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:10:09 -0500In reply to monte christo and Flemenstar, here is a journeyman trainer with a good horse who is using his brain a bit like the Bowes, Cheltenham is not the be all end all there is plenty of similar big pots to be collected while the big trainers andhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29052017/the-media-must-be-beside-themselves-fairyhouse-national?post_id=518447895#518447895In reply to monte christo and Flemenstar, here is a journeyman trainer with a good horse who is using his brain a bit like the Bowes, Cheltenham is not the be all end all there is plenty of similar big pots to be collected while the big trainers andTue, 10 Apr 2012 07:05:34 -0500Silver that was a dream result for racing yesterday. The media lapped it up and the HRI and ITM must have been creaming themselves because it allows them to sell the dream.There isn't a jockey, trainers, owner, pundit or fan that would have begrudgedhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29052017/the-media-must-be-beside-themselves-fairyhouse-national?post_id=518447801#518447801Silver that was a dream result for racing yesterday. The media lapped it up and the HRI and ITM must have been creaming themselves because it allows them to sell the dream.There isn't a jockey, trainers, owner, pundit or fan that would have begrudgedTue, 10 Apr 2012 07:01:36 -0500It seems I'm like a voodoo doll, no matter what I say somebody has to get a dig in, not one person started a thread congratulating the small time connections, if Allez Garde had won I'm sure you'd all be falling all over yourselves to be the first tohttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29052017/the-media-must-be-beside-themselves-fairyhouse-national?post_id=518447155#518447155It seems I'm like a voodoo doll, no matter what I say somebody has to get a dig in, not one person started a thread congratulating the small time connections, if Allez Garde had won I'm sure you'd all be falling all over yourselves to be the first toTue, 10 Apr 2012 06:30:41 -0500Seriously what are you moaning about this time? You seem to be moaning that had a big trainer won he would have got loads of praise, well they didn't win it so your thread seems a bit pointless to me. Or are you complaining that there are not 25 threhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29052017/the-media-must-be-beside-themselves-fairyhouse-national?post_id=518446949#518446949Seriously what are you moaning about this time? You seem to be moaning that had a big trainer won he would have got loads of praise, well they didn't win it so your thread seems a bit pointless to me. Or are you complaining that there are not 25 threTue, 10 Apr 2012 06:19:39 -0500