New Posts For Thread: Any one making it pay long term on Irish Forum??https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28731109/any-one-making-it-pay-long-term-on-irish-forumIt's obviously next to impossible to make money punting in bookies with overounds ranging from 107% to 160%(yest.).Imo it's very hard to make profit on here even with 100 % o/r(without first hand info) by just punting and laying .It's possible to makOne festive tip.Just because there is plenty of racing makes it more likely they will be very false results. Concentrate on Leapardstown and maybe a Graded Races at Limerick. If English Racing is your thing then Kempton.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28731109/any-one-making-it-pay-long-term-on-irish-forum?post_id=513855835#513855835One festive tip.Just because there is plenty of racing makes it more likely they will be very false results. Concentrate on Leapardstown and maybe a Graded Races at Limerick. If English Racing is your thing then Kempton.Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:52:09 -0600they are the best out there for sure..the ruby enhancement must be costing them a fortune...and they arnt afraid to take abet anymore..i seem a guy having 5k the other day on a yoke at 6/4...no bother..and it won!https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28731109/any-one-making-it-pay-long-term-on-irish-forum?post_id=513744495#513744495they are the best out there for sure..the ruby enhancement must be costing them a fortune...and they arnt afraid to take abet anymore..i seem a guy having 5k the other day on a yoke at 6/4...no bother..and it won!Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:08:04 -0600Kavvie the main reason i bet with PP is there concessions, at times they are outrageous good.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28731109/any-one-making-it-pay-long-term-on-irish-forum?post_id=513737411#513737411Kavvie the main reason i bet with PP is there concessions, at times they are outrageous good.Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:37:58 -0600fair enough..you seem fairly tuned into the game..its just how you phrased it..yea most times its better at to take a slightly shorter price in pp or whoever as its guaranteed etc..https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28731109/any-one-making-it-pay-long-term-on-irish-forum?post_id=513737247#513737247fair enough..you seem fairly tuned into the game..its just how you phrased it..yea most times its better at to take a slightly shorter price in pp or whoever as its guaranteed etc..Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:34:40 -0600Kavvie i think you picked me up wrong. Price matters of course, what i was trying to put across that in terms of my priorities price is nowhere compared to discipline but when i say discipline i mean that I rarely back under 2/1 unless its for big mohttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28731109/any-one-making-it-pay-long-term-on-irish-forum?post_id=513736633#513736633Kavvie i think you picked me up wrong. Price matters of course, what i was trying to put across that in terms of my priorities price is nowhere compared to discipline but when i say discipline i mean that I rarely back under 2/1 unless its for big moMon, 12 Dec 2011 13:20:15 -0600A few random thoughts (forgive me if there's logic flaws) on why I generally fail as a punter even though I have unearthed many, many winners over the last few years when I decided I would treat my "hobby" more seriously i.e. give it more of my leisuhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28731109/any-one-making-it-pay-long-term-on-irish-forum?post_id=513732493#513732493A few random thoughts (forgive me if there's logic flaws) on why I generally fail as a punter even though I have unearthed many, many winners over the last few years when I decided I would treat my "hobby" more seriously i.e. give it more of my leisuMon, 12 Dec 2011 11:20:49 -0600IS THERE a case for backing just in markets close to 100%, like football , tennis cricket, most horse races ar 125 ish...https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28731109/any-one-making-it-pay-long-term-on-irish-forum?post_id=513729927#513729927IS THERE a case for backing just in markets close to 100%, like football , tennis cricket, most horse races ar 125 ish...Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:02:42 -0600ruby you were making great sense til you said price dont matter to you..price is every thing..if you are backing heads every time in a toss at 5/4 you will win..i know lots of punters who are glad to just back a winner even if the price is gone..my fhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28731109/any-one-making-it-pay-long-term-on-irish-forum?post_id=513721265#513721265ruby you were making great sense til you said price dont matter to you..price is every thing..if you are backing heads every time in a toss at 5/4 you will win..i know lots of punters who are glad to just back a winner even if the price is gone..my fMon, 12 Dec 2011 05:45:13 -0600Value and discipline the key factors .If you always back value you can trade it if you want with a win/ lose guarantee of profit . Each way in selected races very often the value . Discipline identifies the markets where you have a chance ( never lohttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28731109/any-one-making-it-pay-long-term-on-irish-forum?post_id=513720397#513720397Value and discipline the key factors .If you always back value you can trade it if you want with a win/ lose guarantee of profit . Each way in selected races very often the value . Discipline identifies the markets where you have a chance ( never loMon, 12 Dec 2011 05:00:35 -0600There are many keys to success and what works for one may not work for another.The best racing judge I know is not a successful punter because of his inability to control himself on a poor day.There are many disiplined punters out there but they lackhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28731109/any-one-making-it-pay-long-term-on-irish-forum?post_id=513708669#513708669There are many keys to success and what works for one may not work for another.The best racing judge I know is not a successful punter because of his inability to control himself on a poor day.There are many disiplined punters out there but they lackSun, 11 Dec 2011 17:19:23 -0600