New Posts For Thread: Minsk Triumph Hurdle ?????https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28500933/minsk-triumph-hurdleNow i know it sounds ludacrist to be talking about a horse antepost that hasn t even seen a hurdle in his life yet !!! I believe Barry Connell forked out 200k recently for him and is gone to Dessie Hughes after yesterdays cesarawitch . But the way heDoubt very much that Barry Connell gave 200k for the horse to line him up for the Fred Winter. Given that Dessie Hughes ran Hardy Eustace in the 05 Champion when he looked thrown in the Coral Cup, id imagine he'd be aiming for a championship race athttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28500933/minsk-triumph-hurdle?post_id=509853043#509853043Doubt very much that Barry Connell gave 200k for the horse to line him up for the Fred Winter. Given that Dessie Hughes ran Hardy Eustace in the 05 Champion when he looked thrown in the Coral Cup, id imagine he'd be aiming for a championship race atTue, 11 Oct 2011 08:27:11 -0500I was going to say the same thing wildman, how would an Albert Bartlett field get this lad off the bridle, I'd be dissapointed if he went for that tbh, but the Neptune looks ideal. Binocular did the Supreme as a juvinile. The thing is though that Deshttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28500933/minsk-triumph-hurdle?post_id=509852283#509852283I was going to say the same thing wildman, how would an Albert Bartlett field get this lad off the bridle, I'd be dissapointed if he went for that tbh, but the Neptune looks ideal. Binocular did the Supreme as a juvinile. The thing is though that DesTue, 11 Oct 2011 08:08:21 -0500One thing you have in your favour with backing Minsk is that Oxx trained him on the flat and is unlikely to have gotten to the bottom of him; the same couldn't be said about flat horses coming from other top yards.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28500933/minsk-triumph-hurdle?post_id=509852043#509852043One thing you have in your favour with backing Minsk is that Oxx trained him on the flat and is unlikely to have gotten to the bottom of him; the same couldn't be said about flat horses coming from other top yards.Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:01:16 -0500very true wildman and a lot of the time the good two milers on the flat need 2 1/2 - 3 mile over hurdles but i think connections will try keep their dream of having maybe a future champion hurdler on their hands alive and go down the 2 mile root thishttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28500933/minsk-triumph-hurdle?post_id=509844731#509844731very true wildman and a lot of the time the good two milers on the flat need 2 1/2 - 3 mile over hurdles but i think connections will try keep their dream of having maybe a future champion hurdler on their hands alive and go down the 2 mile root thisTue, 11 Oct 2011 03:09:58 -0500Dinglemick i think your post is excellent and well thought out,anybody on the Curragh Sunday would rate him higher than 108 such was the ease of his victory,there is one caveat he might go for a longer distance race at Cheltenham,the 4 year olds gethttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28500933/minsk-triumph-hurdle?post_id=509844487#509844487Dinglemick i think your post is excellent and well thought out,anybody on the Curragh Sunday would rate him higher than 108 such was the ease of his victory,there is one caveat he might go for a longer distance race at Cheltenham,the 4 year olds getTue, 11 Oct 2011 02:51:17 -0500Mick, since the inception of the Fred Winter, most of the lower rated horses go for that, and you are correct the triumph is now a punter friendly race with the winner the past 6 years coming from the first 3 in the sp betting.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28500933/minsk-triumph-hurdle?post_id=509844385#509844385Mick, since the inception of the Fred Winter, most of the lower rated horses go for that, and you are correct the triumph is now a punter friendly race with the winner the past 6 years coming from the first 3 in the sp betting.Tue, 11 Oct 2011 02:42:50 -0500like i said at the start lads talking about a horse to win at cheltenham that hasn t seen a hurdle is ludacrist ...... but in this case i m basing it on taking a risk that it could be very good value come the day and that he is gone to a top class NHhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28500933/minsk-triumph-hurdle?post_id=509844333#509844333like i said at the start lads talking about a horse to win at cheltenham that hasn t seen a hurdle is ludacrist ...... but in this case i m basing it on taking a risk that it could be very good value come the day and that he is gone to a top class NHTue, 11 Oct 2011 02:37:17 -0500flat ratings arent worth a hoot over hurdles, just like hurdles ratings dont matter a sh1t over fences, take my username as an example triumph hurdle betting now is a terrible idea i think, for all that this horse is very promising!!https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28500933/minsk-triumph-hurdle?post_id=509836055#509836055flat ratings arent worth a hoot over hurdles, just like hurdles ratings dont matter a sh1t over fences, take my username as an example triumph hurdle betting now is a terrible idea i think, for all that this horse is very promising!!Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:56:11 -0500Indeed a very shrewd buy from Connell but I'm with Prospero, at such an early stage I would too find it hard to back any horse for a race at Cheltenham that has yet to jump a hurdle.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28500933/minsk-triumph-hurdle?post_id=509834589#509834589Indeed a very shrewd buy from Connell but I'm with Prospero, at such an early stage I would too find it hard to back any horse for a race at Cheltenham that has yet to jump a hurdle.Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:56:55 -0500I think he is right and as well the top rated flat animal has a good record in the triumph and seeing as he is now rated as 108 on flat don't think there will be many more higher rated come march if of course he likes hurdling etc etc, have backed hihttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/28500933/minsk-triumph-hurdle?post_id=509832299#509832299I think he is right and as well the top rated flat animal has a good record in the triumph and seeing as he is now rated as 108 on flat don't think there will be many more higher rated come march if of course he likes hurdling etc etc, have backed hiMon, 10 Oct 2011 16:42:41 -0500