New Posts For Thread: The Pen pushers are a serious issuehttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/26319761/the-pen-pushers-are-a-serious-issueWas up at my local govt offices today for a private business meeting and i noticed how many of these types were just hanging around kicking back. I have read on here people blaming those on welfare but the public service needs serious looking into. FWhat else do you want exactly? To be honest Joe it would take to long to go through. I guess in short it would be Accountability/Responsibility. I deal with a lot of state departments and the lack of it is unreal.On a lighter note i also want the phohttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/26319761/the-pen-pushers-are-a-serious-issue?post_id=475523237#475523237What else do you want exactly? To be honest Joe it would take to long to go through. I guess in short it would be Accountability/Responsibility. I deal with a lot of state departments and the lack of it is unreal.On a lighter note i also want the phoWed, 24 Nov 2010 17:59:48 -0600'Diamond' Joe Quimby Joined: 14 Oct 05Replies: 4271 24 Nov 10 20:18 I have to admit, It amazes me how people sit in judgement of the public service at the moment. There are useless people/spoofers in all walks and areas of employment. Plenty of theshttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/26319761/the-pen-pushers-are-a-serious-issue?post_id=475521793#475521793'Diamond' Joe Quimby Joined: 14 Oct 05Replies: 4271 24 Nov 10 20:18 I have to admit, It amazes me how people sit in judgement of the public service at the moment. There are useless people/spoofers in all walks and areas of employment. Plenty of thesWed, 24 Nov 2010 17:48:46 -0600What Rules? Genuine question. Not being smart :)the public sector have the only employer in the country which is borrowing to pay wages and pensions.And whos fault is that? Many would say the employers, though its still doesnt distract from the facthttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/26319761/the-pen-pushers-are-a-serious-issue?post_id=475519105#475519105What Rules? Genuine question. Not being smart :)the public sector have the only employer in the country which is borrowing to pay wages and pensions.And whos fault is that? Many would say the employers, though its still doesnt distract from the factWed, 24 Nov 2010 17:28:05 -0600well diamond joe I have nothing against the public sector whatsoever but you can't compare the public sector with the private sector. The same rules don't applyhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/26319761/the-pen-pushers-are-a-serious-issue?post_id=475517973#475517973well diamond joe I have nothing against the public sector whatsoever but you can't compare the public sector with the private sector. The same rules don't applyWed, 24 Nov 2010 17:19:42 -0600the public sector have the only employer in the country which is borrowing to pay wages and pensions. 4 billion was the health budget 10 years ago and it was 16 billion in 2007. the average pay last year was 950 euro for an average 32 hour week. thehttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/26319761/the-pen-pushers-are-a-serious-issue?post_id=475517953#475517953the public sector have the only employer in the country which is borrowing to pay wages and pensions. 4 billion was the health budget 10 years ago and it was 16 billion in 2007. the average pay last year was 950 euro for an average 32 hour week. theWed, 24 Nov 2010 17:19:32 -0600No No Barney, sorry for the misunderstandinghttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/26319761/the-pen-pushers-are-a-serious-issue?post_id=475516597#475516597No No Barney, sorry for the misunderstandingWed, 24 Nov 2010 17:08:58 -0600Fair enough Joe, thought you were saying i was demonising them. Just to add I have friends in the public service.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/26319761/the-pen-pushers-are-a-serious-issue?post_id=475515669#475515669Fair enough Joe, thought you were saying i was demonising them. Just to add I have friends in the public service.Wed, 24 Nov 2010 17:01:55 -0600But the public service is protected at all costsThe cuts have been outlined and there will be more over the next decade have no doubt. What else do you want exactly?https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/26319761/the-pen-pushers-are-a-serious-issue?post_id=475515413#475515413But the public service is protected at all costsThe cuts have been outlined and there will be more over the next decade have no doubt. What else do you want exactly?Wed, 24 Nov 2010 16:59:46 -0600As for demonising the public sector how is pointing out that we can not longer afford the current levels of pay doing that ?The OP pointed how many of the public sector are FF "Friends and are Kicking back etc.....Cushy job....Sensationalist rubbishhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/26319761/the-pen-pushers-are-a-serious-issue?post_id=475515197#475515197As for demonising the public sector how is pointing out that we can not longer afford the current levels of pay doing that ?The OP pointed how many of the public sector are FF "Friends and are Kicking back etc.....Cushy job....Sensationalist rubbishWed, 24 Nov 2010 16:57:58 -0600at the end of the day though Diamond Joe, the public service answer to the taxpayers , the private sector don'tNo they don't. They respond to their employers....The Government/Different Depts/Offices etc....The Government are answerable to the Taxpayhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/26319761/the-pen-pushers-are-a-serious-issue?post_id=475514825#475514825at the end of the day though Diamond Joe, the public service answer to the taxpayers , the private sector don'tNo they don't. They respond to their employers....The Government/Different Depts/Offices etc....The Government are answerable to the TaxpayWed, 24 Nov 2010 16:55:11 -0600