New Posts For Thread: IS THE CHELTENHAM BUMPERhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/25073613/is-the-cheltenham-bumpera better race than the Ascot Gold Cup? Rite of Passage could only finish 3rd in the Cheltenham Bumper.Workrider,I just checked my 1969 form book. Your memory is not too bad. Levmoss won the '68 November handicap. Next start back over a mile in the Gladness in March '69, fifth of six as outsider of the six to 3yo stablemate Rocked. Next shttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/25073613/is-the-cheltenham-bumper?post_id=454125393#454125393Workrider,I just checked my 1969 form book. Your memory is not too bad. Levmoss won the '68 November handicap. Next start back over a mile in the Gladness in March '69, fifth of six as outsider of the six to 3yo stablemate Rocked. Next sTue, 29 Jun 2010 07:21:22 -0500Weld said today that he can handle heavy but is not physically strong enough to quicken out of tacky ground like at cheltenham this year, there is also a theory going around which the trainer has never commented on that he is better on a flat track.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/25073613/is-the-cheltenham-bumper?post_id=452870481#452870481Weld said today that he can handle heavy but is not physically strong enough to quicken out of tacky ground like at cheltenham this year, there is also a theory going around which the trainer has never commented on that he is better on a flat track.Sun, 20 Jun 2010 09:25:17 -0500i remember laying him at chelt this yr but if i knew he was this good i prob wouldnt. In the bumper2yrs ago he struggled coming up the hill, not good to win the next yr, the form of that race gave me the same reason to lay willies fancied horse aswelhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/25073613/is-the-cheltenham-bumper?post_id=452740197#452740197i remember laying him at chelt this yr but if i knew he was this good i prob wouldnt. In the bumper2yrs ago he struggled coming up the hill, not good to win the next yr, the form of that race gave me the same reason to lay willies fancied horse aswelSat, 19 Jun 2010 08:04:02 -0500monksfield , i think incredibly levmoss won a h/cap under 10 st at the curragh either a week before or maybe even the same week as the arc , i had only started backing horses around that time ,so am relying on memory so not set in stone . i backedhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/25073613/is-the-cheltenham-bumper?post_id=452738557#452738557monksfield , i think incredibly levmoss won a h/cap under 10 st at the curragh either a week before or maybe even the same week as the arc , i had only started backing horses around that time ,so am relying on memory so not set in stone . i backedSat, 19 Jun 2010 07:48:00 -0500what odds would ROP have gone off in chelt this year if we knew he would win gold cup? I'm stunned, didn't seem like a stayer at chelts to me. and i piled on him at chelt.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/25073613/is-the-cheltenham-bumper?post_id=452728817#452728817what odds would ROP have gone off in chelt this year if we knew he would win gold cup? I'm stunned, didn't seem like a stayer at chelts to me. and i piled on him at chelt.Sat, 19 Jun 2010 06:11:26 -0500Correction to my previous post above: Enzeli also completed the Leopardstown/Ascot double in 1998/9.The really sad part is that I am old enough to have forgotten this. despite backing Enzeli practically every time he won!https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/25073613/is-the-cheltenham-bumper?post_id=452721525#452721525Correction to my previous post above: Enzeli also completed the Leopardstown/Ascot double in 1998/9.The really sad part is that I am old enough to have forgotten this. despite backing Enzeli practically every time he won!Sat, 19 Jun 2010 04:30:21 -0500Fair enough RVW but we are talking about 15 months and this is a vastly improved horse now compared to then. He was still travelling turning for home yesterday. He was beaten (like all the others a long way out by Dunguib.Think about this. If I toldhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/25073613/is-the-cheltenham-bumper?post_id=452683645#452683645Fair enough RVW but we are talking about 15 months and this is a vastly improved horse now compared to then. He was still travelling turning for home yesterday. He was beaten (like all the others a long way out by Dunguib.Think about this. If I toldFri, 18 Jun 2010 18:41:54 -0500I just realised that Rite Of Passage must be the first horse since Levmoss forty-one years earlier to bring off the Leopardstown November/Ascot Gold Cup double.The sad part is that I am (just) old enough to remember Levmoss!https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/25073613/is-the-cheltenham-bumper?post_id=452670849#452670849I just realised that Rite Of Passage must be the first horse since Levmoss forty-one years earlier to bring off the Leopardstown November/Ascot Gold Cup double.The sad part is that I am (just) old enough to remember Levmoss!Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:07:21 -0500his like Kasbah Bliss,top horse but should be narrowly defeated everytime he sets his hooves in prestbury parkhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/25073613/is-the-cheltenham-bumper?post_id=452597537#452597537his like Kasbah Bliss,top horse but should be narrowly defeated everytime he sets his hooves in prestbury parkFri, 18 Jun 2010 09:09:05 -0500Giant Strides i wanted to hear what the response was to what i said and that is what i expected the extra half a mile is some difference. It showed that Rite of Passage needed the extended trip of 2 and a half so going for the melbourne cup might nohttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/25073613/is-the-cheltenham-bumper?post_id=452583625#452583625Giant Strides i wanted to hear what the response was to what i said and that is what i expected the extra half a mile is some difference. It showed that Rite of Passage needed the extended trip of 2 and a half so going for the melbourne cup might noFri, 18 Jun 2010 07:16:01 -0500