New Posts For Thread: Tough Times In Racinghttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/23595278/tough-times-in-racingSyndicate here have had 27 entries (and entry fees) without getting a run .. full training fees all the time.Today, with Gowran off, presumably it costs the same to bring a non-runner to the track as a runner ... usually costs several hundred with tWhat travel sub?There may be for an occasional meeting but not for run of the mill weekday racing.https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/23595278/tough-times-in-racing?post_id=422708906#422708906What travel sub?There may be for an occasional meeting but not for run of the mill weekday racing.Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:52:31 -06001K?...........minus the travel subhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/23595278/tough-times-in-racing?post_id=422708902#4227089021K?...........minus the travel subTue, 24 Nov 2009 02:46:03 -0600takin a horse to uk for race nearly set u back 1khttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/23595278/tough-times-in-racing?post_id=422708722#422708722takin a horse to uk for race nearly set u back 1kSun, 22 Nov 2009 15:36:30 -0600Tolmi, does the trainer see the HRI statements with the entry fees on it? Most of the bigger trainers know the balloting system inside out but smaller trainers are not as knowledgeable and they don't see the statement so owner has to bring it up. Ifhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/23595278/tough-times-in-racing?post_id=422708554#422708554Tolmi, does the trainer see the HRI statements with the entry fees on it? Most of the bigger trainers know the balloting system inside out but smaller trainers are not as knowledgeable and they don't see the statement so owner has to bring it up. IfSun, 22 Nov 2009 02:47:49 -0600If you declare and are balloted out your entry fee is refunded.If you are so far down the list that you have no chance of getting in and do not declare you forfeit your entry fee.I would seriously doubt that any trainer would be so incompetent not tohttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/23595278/tough-times-in-racing?post_id=422708542#422708542If you declare and are balloted out your entry fee is refunded.If you are so far down the list that you have no chance of getting in and do not declare you forfeit your entry fee.I would seriously doubt that any trainer would be so incompetent not toSun, 22 Nov 2009 00:41:44 -0600celticboy, sounds to me like your syndicate secretary (or trainer) is missing a trick here... you shouldn't have to pay any entry fee if you are not making the cut on the ballot... but, as you say, only if you declare... i've long suspected hri makehttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/23595278/tough-times-in-racing?post_id=422708518#422708518celticboy, sounds to me like your syndicate secretary (or trainer) is missing a trick here... you shouldn't have to pay any entry fee if you are not making the cut on the ballot... but, as you say, only if you declare... i've long suspected hri makeSat, 21 Nov 2009 16:08:02 -0600Best solution is to get a statement of your turf club account and the syndicate go through it, if there is a fiddle going on it will show up..........I know of a case where this happened.......https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/23595278/tough-times-in-racing?post_id=422708514#422708514Best solution is to get a statement of your turf club account and the syndicate go through it, if there is a fiddle going on it will show up..........I know of a case where this happened.......Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:59:12 -0600Celticboy, the biggest misconception is that if I get a ballot it helps me next time around. Not true. A ballot for an 80-95 handicap hurdler is worth nothing to you if you enter into an 81-102. In fact the ballot is worth nothing in an 81-102 as ithttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/23595278/tough-times-in-racing?post_id=422708510#422708510Celticboy, the biggest misconception is that if I get a ballot it helps me next time around. Not true. A ballot for an 80-95 handicap hurdler is worth nothing to you if you enter into an 81-102. In fact the ballot is worth nothing in an 81-102 as itSat, 21 Nov 2009 15:48:36 -0600Racing Charges 2009 An owner can expect the following deductions from their account when entering and racing a horse.*Entry Fee 0.7% of total race value Declaration Fee 0.2% of total race value **Bookage Fee €13.50 for an ordinary race #Jockey Fee phttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/23595278/tough-times-in-racing?post_id=422708502#422708502Racing Charges 2009 An owner can expect the following deductions from their account when entering and racing a horse.*Entry Fee 0.7% of total race value Declaration Fee 0.2% of total race value **Bookage Fee €13.50 for an ordinary race #Jockey Fee pSat, 21 Nov 2009 15:34:13 -0600Well the secretary of this syndicate says that you do pay entry fees - even if you are balloted out .. this must be a goldmine for the authorities, if true ... I usually see 100 plus entries when I check ... You do not pay if declared and ballotedhttps://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/23595278/tough-times-in-racing?post_id=422708486#422708486Well the secretary of this syndicate says that you do pay entry fees - even if you are balloted out .. this must be a goldmine for the authorities, if true ... I usually see 100 plus entries when I check ... You do not pay if declared and ballotedSat, 21 Nov 2009 14:55:01 -0600