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hulk23
23 Mar 26 19:39
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1.69 to 1.78

the 3k (paudy) sitting at 1.73 just disappears when it suits
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Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 6:41 PM GMT
he's now looking to drift this.  we're 20 minutes away. 

lets see what he does,
Report uptheirons March 23, 2026 6:43 PM GMT
"Nutter on the Bus"Laugh
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 6:50 PM GMT
money could come for hollies - Astrological

3.65
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 6:51 PM GMT
£208 wants 3.65

so we know that's paudy
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 6:51 PM GMT
jolly goes 1.80 as predicted above, correct again,
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 6:57 PM GMT
3.5 hollies   he had to come for it as said above
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 6:58 PM GMT
then out to 4

3.65 to 3.5 then 4.0

not 3.65 to 4
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:00 PM GMT
think Room Fourteen could do them both

7/1 for fanshawe
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:04 PM GMT
murphys operating on a different planet to that lot.  it's an easy drifiting winna.

1.69 paudy pushed it to 1.80, that was the value.  if you saw the race should've went 1.69 to 1.33

couldn't lose.
Report swiftynifty March 23, 2026 7:05 PM GMT
Give up for the night hulk.

But don't forget your medication.
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:06 PM GMT
we move on.  now remember you can make money from these movements, just saying ....

paudys moving them, not moi.
Report swiftynifty March 23, 2026 7:10 PM GMT
you one race, paddy the next.

out of interest , is it just you and paddy on the exchange?
Report uptheirons March 23, 2026 7:14 PM GMT
Strange that the "Nutter" cannot substantiate any of his lunatic claimsLaugh
Report swiftynifty March 23, 2026 7:14 PM GMT
I suggest in your next race hulk, blinkers off, tongue-tie on.
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:15 PM GMT
it'a 96% paudy and 4% the rest of us.

which means he has complete control of the prices.

just the way he always wanted it.  lay one at 2.96, put a back in at 2.98 for green.

he'll move it to 2.74

high street follow, 13/8 from 15/8.
Report swiftynifty March 23, 2026 7:16 PM GMT
Yes, we get it. No other bookie have access to Betfair?
Report formoftheace March 23, 2026 7:16 PM GMT
Who is responsible for producing anyoldiron ? Maybe it dropped from the sky…..strange thingy whatever it is tbh…
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:21 PM GMT
paudy cannot be involved on the exchange.

that's a clear abuse of power.  he has access to so much more information than the rest of us regarding bets etc
he's either running the place, taking his 2% and disappearing off into the sunset, or he's playing the markets and letting someone else run the place.

his involvement in the markets should be a major concern for anyone involved on here,
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:23 PM GMT
anyway.  East Tyrone.

4.3 for the kid.  should come for this,
Report uptheirons March 23, 2026 7:23 PM GMT
Thrush Laugh
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:24 PM GMT
£308 wants 4.4

paudy
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:26 PM GMT
£662 wants 4.5

more than everything else added together
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:29 PM GMT
the amount looking to get on at 4.5 was bigger than all other amounts looking to get on the other 8 runners.

do you think that's malcolm sitting in the house with deirdre having his dinner. 

or a massive organisation,
Report uptheirons March 23, 2026 7:29 PM GMT
Thrush and Hulk have one ting in common.
They are both non punting nuttersLaugh
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:30 PM GMT
4.2

fk me, i was right again !!!
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:31 PM GMT
bsp 4.4

5.7 after 50 yards
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:33 PM GMT
gubbed.  so at least one person has spunked another £308

but that person seems to have unlimited £308's.  and £108's, and £208's.

so, kpmg, next time you go to paudys house,  please ask the cnt who owns all those ^^
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:37 PM GMT
we move on ... listen, if he's gonna fk with the prices i may as well show ya 

not like i'm charging (there's a thought ...).
Report swiftynifty March 23, 2026 7:38 PM GMT
Picture the scenario, a bookie(not paddy) has liabilities on horse at SP. Now, what can he do about it? Anyone heard of Betfair?
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:45 PM GMT
i trust Course scorer Trust Sergei.  3.55 looks generous

bosh CoolCool
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:47 PM GMT
Picture the scenario, a bookie(not paddy) has liabilities on horse at SP. Now, what can he do about it? Anyone heard of Betfair?

Picture the scenario, i put £55 in looking for 3.25 and immediately £55 appears in the box looking for 3.15 

you're not listening ....
Report swiftynifty March 23, 2026 7:47 PM GMT
That's any old bot, could be one of 1000s.
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:48 PM GMT
moved it into 2.84 whoever owned it
Report swiftynifty March 23, 2026 7:49 PM GMT
Maybe go on any quiet market, a future football match for example, you may see how bots work.
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:50 PM GMT
15/8 to 13/8 in the shops.  cos i stuck £55 up looking for 3.25 ??
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:52 PM GMT
i've been on plenty.  508am at Warrnambool

stick money up for one at 4.6

£108 appears looking for 4.5 

yes, £108.
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:55 PM GMT
some weird slovakian womens under 23's football match.

money up looking to lay under 4.5 goals.


£108 appears laying one tick higher, 

so yes, they do show whats going on.  and thats going on here too, you just cant see it so obviously,
Report swiftynifty March 23, 2026 7:57 PM GMT
I love the 108s, remarkable , all those bots at work and not another single £1 in an empty box.
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 7:59 PM GMT
the one thing paudy was soiling his fancy green undercrackers about when he took over here, and this is from an insider, was the same account backing and laying or laying and backing to generate profit,  he set out to eradicate that.  fortunately i was told and i can see how his bot is working and i've been riding it for over 3 years,
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 8:01 PM GMT
i go skiing in the morning,  and ride his bot in the afternoon.

evening paudy, dry yer eyes son Cry
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 8:03 PM GMT
i know his traders read this, again from the inside, and they know who i am.

must be fuming,  one more ?  lets go for the 830 CoolCool
Report TameTheTiger March 23, 2026 8:06 PM GMT
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Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 8:06 PM GMT
Oisin Murphy
3.10
seagull

good luck all, and good night.  stay safe and don't believe everything you see.  specially when there's money involved.

all true ^^
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 8:10 PM GMT
3.2  disappeared.

i never really addressed this.  so all the millions playing at home, all the bookies laying off on here.

and not one pound (£1) wants to back or lay at 3.20 ???   not a quid,  either way, 

quite remarkable,
Report TameTheTiger March 23, 2026 8:12 PM GMT
Widespread Use: Thousands of professional traders use their own automated bots to trade on Betfair for a living. The exchange provides an API (Application Programming Interface) specifically to allow these bots to connect and place bets faster than a human could.
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Report Hugo-Hackenbush March 23, 2026 8:13 PM GMT
uptheirons 23 Mar 26 19:14 
Strange that the "Nutter" cannot substantiate any of his lunatic claims

In fairness,neither would you. Just saying like.
Report swiftynifty March 23, 2026 8:16 PM GMT
3 years and hulk hasn't maxed out. He's missing a trick clearly.
Report the dealer March 23, 2026 8:19 PM GMT
Posted one bet in that time, a win bet on a horse he told the forum to lay. He didn't off course post the matched lay bet that would show his loss.

If Paddy was worried about your rants he would have flicked the switch on you on here a long time ago.

I expect they have a good laugh at your expense, not from the inside
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 8:23 PM GMT
unlike you dealer.  i know someone who works for them.

been substantiating my concerns since March 2023.  and i've been in clover since, but you refused to lissen.

more fool you,  bye bye xx
Report the dealer March 23, 2026 8:25 PM GMT
Be careful in the morning, the snow might be a tad slippy early doors.
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 8:25 PM GMT
18 minutes,  seagull still 3.10
Report swiftynifty March 23, 2026 8:26 PM GMT
If I knew which way markets were going, every time, I'd be disappointed not to make a couple of hundred a race. 25 races a day, a hard year's work for a cool million (even after the 40% expert fee hulk's paying no doubt). Get it banked hulk....and spend the afternoon on the slopes too.
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 8:33 PM GMT
3.1 to 3.19

didn't drift much for a very one paced plodder.

last.
Report uptheirons March 23, 2026 8:33 PM GMT
I have substantiated any bet that I have claimed to have made,WakenabushLaugh
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 8:38 PM GMT
swift.  paudys house of cards is reliant on someone not picking up on what he's up to, or someone from the inside blabbing (and yes, they also sent me that horrible mugshot the boy took of me back in 2019, in the branch.  not my best side). 

all i'm telling you on here is true,  the £108's, the movements, my contacts, my skiing.

don't let it spoil your enjoyment of the site, of gambling, or anything else.  life's too short. 

just be aware.
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 8:44 PM GMT
7 years on and he's still wishing he put his phone on silent so it didn't make the click sound when he photographed me. 

if he'd asked i'd have done him a moody pose. 

shows you the lengths the cnts will go to. 

and yes, true story,
Report uptheirons March 23, 2026 8:46 PM GMT
You should be in a Secure Unit you utter nutterSad
Report jamee1 March 23, 2026 8:46 PM GMT
Report penzance March 23, 2026 8:47 PM GMT
About as believable as any Marvel comic.
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 8:50 PM GMT
the reason it sounds like a nutter, is because it's so ridiculous.

i 100% guarantee you the manager of a PP shop came out from behind the counter, wandered up next to me, and took a photo of me as i was looking at the electronic odds boards in one of their shops in 2019.  and he was told to do it by the area manager but i won't say anymore or how i know that.
Report swiftynifty March 23, 2026 8:54 PM GMT
could it be that the area manager had a crush on you?

forget the shops, you're safer on here.
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 8:55 PM GMT
i've also been locked in a branch of WH with the manager threatening to "call the police" when he found i'd been rinsing him.

i politely took a seat and asked him how long they would be. 

at which point he opened the door and requested that i fk off.

didn't like it up him.
Report Hugo-Hackenbush March 23, 2026 8:55 PM GMT
uptheirons 23 Mar 26 20:33 
I have substantiated any bet that I have claimed to have made,Wakenabush

You also claim your a long term winner,although you refuse to substantiate it. You can of course manage to c&p a single bet.Normally only 1 reason for that.
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 8:56 PM GMT
i'm quite clever,  you see.
Report the dealer March 23, 2026 8:57 PM GMT
Why would he not take your picture straight off the cctv like every other firm does,

Oh wait, you have to he dramatic to fit the story line
Report TameTheTiger March 23, 2026 8:57 PM GMT
People who consistently make up stories, embellish achievements, or fake a successful life to gain attention, admiration, or sympathy are often described as pathological liars, mythomaniacs, or fantasists. This behavior is frequently a, “cry for recognition” driven by low self-esteem or an underlying need to feel special, rather than just material gain.
Report uptheirons March 23, 2026 8:58 PM GMT
The day that I am answerable to a no mark like you will never dawn,Wakenabush.
Do you actually bet?
Report TameTheTiger March 23, 2026 8:58 PM GMT
Pathological Liar (Pseudologia Fantastica): Someone who lies chronically and compulsively, often creating elaborate, fantastical stories about their life to present themselves as successful or heroic.
Mythomania: A specific form of pathological lying where the individual has an uncontrollable tendency to lie, often believing their own fabrications.
Fantasist: Someone who tells constant, exaggerated stories about their life to make themselves seem more interesting or powerful.
Narcissist/Grandiosity: People with narcissistic tendencies or Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) often portray themselves as successful to maintain a fragile, inflated ego.
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 8:59 PM GMT
i've no reason to make up stories.  all true.  if i was making sh!t up it would be better than that ^^
Report uptheirons March 23, 2026 9:01 PM GMT
hulk23 • March 23, 2026 8:56 PM GMT
i'm quite clever,  you see.

Dear GodLaugh
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 9:16 PM GMT
mods no like the truth.

or so it appears SadSad
Report Hugo-Hackenbush March 23, 2026 9:17 PM GMT
Irons, its irrelevant whether i bet or not.Ive never claimed to be anything on here.If i was quite happy to post individual bets and was requested to proof any claim of winning long term i'd have no problem posting it,why would anyone? Those that refuse do so for a reason,their claims are false.
Report hulk23 March 23, 2026 9:17 PM GMT
all about honesty on ere.  innit ??
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 23, 2026 9:21 PM GMT
ulk...hugo has a point...as ive outed hundreds of wofflers over the years he dus have a point.Wink
Report uptheirons March 23, 2026 9:21 PM GMT
Or,perhaps,they will not be dictated to by no marks  like you or anybody else for that matter,Wakenabush.
However,feel free to post your P&L if you wish as it is no concern of mine
Report saddo March 23, 2026 11:16 PM GMT
You're full of shyte imo.
Report uptheirons March 23, 2026 11:19 PM GMT
And so are you,saddo/thicko
Report hulk23 March 24, 2026 12:40 AM GMT
some of you are so sheltered from reality.

includes you iron.

i'm telling you for a fact, i've no reason to lie, the boy came out from behind the counter at PP and 'covertly' took my photo. 

and i was sent the photo from someone i know that works from PP. 

it's on my file.
Report the dealer March 24, 2026 7:13 AM GMT
I'm just surprised he didn't ask for a selfie,
Report the dealer March 24, 2026 7:28 AM GMT
Are these all truths ????

The £70k winning bet from months ago

The DM from whatever his name was, about going on holiday with the winnings from your selections

The million to one acc with 16 losers

The skiing and other alleged places you are posting from

The movers that are backs when they win

The movers that are paddy when they lose

The winning bet you posted on a horse you advised to lay, no sign of the lay bet that 100% exsisted

Moving markets at Cheltenham

The £108 bets remarkably all Paddy's with no one else's money in the boxes
Report the dealer March 24, 2026 8:08 AM GMT
Hills have 100's of photos on their till system.all taken from cctv, why wouldn't you,  pick of angles, get the best facial picture, customer doesn't know. I would guess all books are the same.
Refusal of service.. customers barred from having a bet

Awaiting proof of income..had a letter but haven't produced documents.

Self exclusions.. customers who have decided to exclude from punting

Fraudsters  .. slow counters and ambiguous bets

It's certainly not an unusual practice

It's not that much good though in 90% plus of cases because you are reliant on a member of staff identifying a person, they have never seen before. from a photograph in a file of hundreds. By the time they find it they would be well gone.
Report TameTheTiger March 24, 2026 11:02 AM GMT
i see he's drawn you in again the dealer ! LaughLaughLaugh
Report the dealer March 24, 2026 11:24 AM GMT
I know Laugh

NO MORE, I'M DONE !!!!!

have tried sitting on my hands, didn't work, will try tieing them behind my back.
Report TameTheTiger March 24, 2026 11:37 AM GMT
youll still be able to use your nose to type. you know you will !
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