Why is Buick still employed…

cant see anything wrong with him has won untold group races . try looking beyond favs !

How much u make yesterday Daniel

if you think he is that bad lay his short priced rides!

Don’t bet on just favs and I don’t bet on Meydan I’m only saying the stats are there he is forever getting beat on favs he is certainly not a good jockey when it comes to that info that’s al I’m pointing out and when the flat season starts he will be one jockey I would be cautious of putting my money on with that kind of record that is just my point …

Found the golden goose and didn't make a penny. Walofs

Guys why are you assuming I’m laying or betting I don’t touch betting until the flat season and I’m no big hitter but I still think the sport is a little bit dodgy and a bit iffy when you see stats like that with a certain jockey…

Freddie what are you going on about I’m lost in your thoughts there bruv…

that's this forum these days the sports recent champion jockey but you arnt allowed an opinion on how good he is unless your laying his horses,the forum would  rather hear about people backing 66,s shots because they hope  1st 5 favs might fall or got out of the stable the wrong side
they used to say the same when 100,s of posts criticised Brian Hughes , 3 yrs on its very nearly BRIAN WHO ?

not saying its you but some  may have backed a jockey  few times and he got beat on  shorties ,m if it happens a few times they tend to stick in ones mind and  start looking at their  rides more closely ,he rides for one of the biggest operations in the game they tend to know what they are doing .often they have a few in a big race and he will sometimes be on the wrong one .

This place is about making money

Lay em low

Back em high

Danaho - Please quote the stats to which you refer. Presumably you have them to hand.  Cheers.

If u say a jock is blent or uesless and he's riding loads favs. Lay em . End of

Same with mulrennannnn. People slogging him all time. But then the stats say he is king of sand

Blacbarn, I only started looking at him when someone put on here that he lost on 11 short price or favs last year i don’t have stats I’m not that worried I don’t bet on  him but I just started to look at him on tv in Meydan and it’s bleak reading I’m not stalking him or anything

so you don't have the stats but you post " I’m only saying the stats are there he is forever getting beat on favs"

Blackbarn, Get a grip of yourself mate

so you don't have the stats but you post " I’m only saying the stats are there he is forever getting beat on favs"

I don't bet on them no you done ur bollix

There's bent. Much trees doon ure street bent. U must be making more cutting trees the day than puntin

He was brutal on the horse yesterday,he should have known something was wrong……a true horseman would have known straight away…..tbh.

ffs it was going flat out how could he or anyone know !

Another cracker from r dave

Looked like it collapsed but Measured Time broke a leg, apparently.

You could see it was falling apart and not just slowing down…..dreadful scenes tbh

at what point would he know going 45mph or whatever and concentrating on winning g a race ,perhaps he could have had a stephoscope and thermometer to test the horse in the final couple of furlongs

he probably went off a bit too quick but sprinters run faster and it doesn't result in a broken leg, just incredibly bad luck and sad.

An unfortunate accident yesterday, which looked worse because of how far in front the horse was for much of the race, giving the impression that the jockey went too quickly....He did go too quickly but it was an accident..

His employer does not employ jockeys that he does not rate...Its a billion pound business he is running.

Buick in America today ,putting in the air miles.

if you had a horse would ya book him dano?

Like him 8.13 Gulfstream- Bold Act

See what you did there Foyles… I’ll put my Hawaiian Shirt on him mate

good luck dano !

I took the liberty of pulling up a spreadsheet from 3 years ago.  Buick's actual versus expected wins (based on SP) were 0.93 over 1392 rides.  Based on that (admittedly flawed) measurement he ranked 16 of the top 100 jockeys for UK rides.  One ranking behind Martin Dwyer and one ahead of Daniel Tudhope.  Callum Rodriquez was ranked 1.  Obviously this is heavily influenced by punter perceptions as much as anything.

Update:  he is 0.94 over the past 7 seasons for UK and Ire rides.  This improves to 0.98 on favourites.

Don't quote me on this, I rushed it.

The skill of a retained jockey can't just be measured in results on course. Charlie Appleby has to maximise the number of Group races won and he relies on feedback from Buick both at home and on the track to select the right horses for the key races. For me he is right at the top.

He's not the worst around, but the problem is, he's not the best either, and he's riding a lot of the best horses.
Too many poor rides for the position he's in.

That is your perception. Only connections know what instructions he had. I would put Murphy top of my list but I doubt if there is more than half a length between the top 20 jockeys when averaged out over 100 rides. They all ride shockers some times.

Thanks Davros much appreciated mate…

Now I’m really getting obsessed with following Buick and if I knew how to lay his rides I would but I’m a £1 patent pensioner type of man with the odd £5 win or £10 win if I feel lucky who goes up my local Betfred and would never go online as I couldn’t afford to trust myself with my shrapnel or the wife raggin my ear …

But just looking at the results over the weekend and here’s the but…

Buick 6 rides at Meydan mostly favs all beat then someone said he was in America last night 3 rides 3 favs all beat so whoever told me to lay them I just hope they did because I haven’t a clue so once again I don’t know the guy and to be honest I will still back him when the flat season comes around if I fancy him on a decent horse but I’ve got to admit the owners trainer shareholders must be looking at Buick and asking what the hell is going on!

Only for discussion as I’m bored had ma square sausage and tatie scones so no smart ass remarks if you’ve got a honest opinion hit me back I’m intrested in your feedback…

Three short priced favourites for Buick today at Meydan - all won.   Six out of every four people don't understand statistics!

Saw the last race. Totally outridden by Mullen.

1/6 shot down the pan today

This Jockey and Trainer has to be the biggest fiddlers on the planet now is nobody in racing still not looking at this set up…

Beaten again on a 1/6

Beaten again on an odds on shot king of conquest but to rub salt in Bin Suroor wins it on a 20/1 shot!!! Come on this incredible that Buick and Appleby are not hauled in front of authorities just look at the amount of times this is happening it’s shocking…

Dano

Just looked and he was also on another favourite Emperors Star and he got beat as well…

FFS What is going on with this outfit…

Tell me everyone if no betting is allowed in Dubai how can money and favourites get backed in like that is it from internet betting I presume so as I bet money just in my local Betfred as I wouldn’t trust any of this nonsense with very low prices every week getting beat and I like to give money over the counter to get money back if you win of course but does anyone like the fact if feels like you’ve won and if you bet on the internet you never see of feel the money in your hand…

Anybody else feel the same or is the high street bookies getting phased out?

Dano

Well done Dan looks like you've found the golden goose lay system , shouldn't have posted it for everyone to see though   

Dano - The question about feeling the cash is interesting, and there's no real answer to it. If thats where your kicks are,  nobody can tell you different.
But reading through this for the first time I couldn't resist chipping in on an earlier comment you made. "..I’m a £1 patent pensioner type of man with the odd £5 win or £10 win if I feel lucky.." I really think you be doing that the other way around.

Hayden, I’ve never payed a horse in my 50 years of betting but is it quite a big thing as I’ve often wondered how much would you need to put on a horse to get a decent payout and do people do it regularly laying instead of betting…

Dano

Steerforth,Lol see what you mean mate but if I have a bit extra my type of regular bet is …

3 x ÂŁ1 Doubles
ÂŁ1 each way treble
And a £5 win on each for £20 on a Saturday but maybe if I feel lucky I go mad and have a £10 single if I’m flushed lol..

Dano

lay ÂŁ1 to win ÂŁ6 dan..

gud cistern.

Book him Dano

Danny boy.......listen to Rico. He won over 3 million on this site

Do it Danaho, Sharona, Singingtheblues et al will see you in clover as long as you are backing rather than laying, as Freddie states won ÂŁ3 mil but has lost ÂŁ4 mil.

Danaho - why did you not post when he won 5 of his last 7 rides in the 14 days prior to today??

Probably the same reason as Newmarket Spurs et al BB, it destroys their opinion and enforces logic.

blackbarn, you’ve got to be Buicks love child ya Doozer…

Dano

Just posting numbers, Dano.  A concept which seems to have passed you by.

Rico, Does that mean if you had a £10 spot on that 1/6 to get beat you would’ve got £60 back? But I’m asking seriously as I don’t know but does that mean the 1/6 Buick lost on if you layed it then any horse that won the race no matter which won you still get paid out!

Dan - Might have been an idea to google that rather than ask on here mate. The sharks will eat you for breakfast.

I think Danaho might be menopausal, said was flushed earlier.

dan & tobymugs

hinge & bracket

Leave the hate behind Rico…Be kind mate

Dano

10-4

Nice one Rico

yes thanks..its 7".

Tried a bit of credit where it's due - oh well! 7 years old more like.