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Report Regbutler November 6, 2024 7:50 AM GMT
Victory speech live on BBC now

Even the "unbiased" BBC have had to concede that he's won now
Report racing6699 November 6, 2024 7:56 AM GMT
One way ticket for De Niro?
Report DIFERENT GRAVY 12 November 6, 2024 8:06 AM GMT
TobyMugs' cousin spouts the same cr@p as him. She also caught a 163lb Catfish apparently!
Report 04arsenalfc. November 6, 2024 8:42 AM GMT
CagliariG
CagliariG05 Nov 24 17:39Joined: 16 Jul 22 | Topic/replies: 9,755 | Blogger: CagliariG's blog
Actual Politics apart, who in their right mind would bet 4/7 on a coin flip and why? If the polls are anywhere near accurate overall it is evens each of 2, I suspect even Trump himself would balk at a gamble like it?

Hope you enjoyed your coinflip buddy Blush
Report Kriskin November 6, 2024 9:03 AM GMT
Great result.  The ordinary people have voted in their millions.  They want massive change
Report salmon spray November 6, 2024 9:15 AM GMT
There must be hope for Boris ffs.
Report Storm Alert November 6, 2024 9:21 AM GMT
Won in a canter, hosed up in the popular vote as well which a republican president elect rarely does. I guess Americans still don't trust a woman in charge, even with the abortion controversy.
Report slickster November 6, 2024 9:28 AM GMT
Well done president trump.
Report paulo47 November 6, 2024 9:58 AM GMT
Wayne Fontana and the Mindbenders reprise .......' Kamala Kamaka remember that day '
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 6, 2024 10:14 AM GMT
Darlo Bantam 05 Nov 24 15:41 
can't believe 6/4 still available.

Yes. Agree. Most of the polls (if not all) are virtually 50-50 splits and most slight Harris advantage. It's a coin flip whether it loses, but 6/4 looks massive value.

CagliariG 05 Nov 24 16:52 
The popular vote counts for nothing so even the deluded Trump fans are not the critical factor. I have a cousin who has lived in Philadelphia for 50+ years and she is saying that Pen State is more pro Harris than the polls would have you believe mainly due to the female vote. This could be crucial and critical in terms of the final result. Actual Politics apart, who in their right mind would bet 4/7 on a coin flip and why? If the polls are anywhere near accurate overall it is evens each of 2, I suspect even Trump himself would balk at a gamble like it?

dave1357 05 Nov 24 22:43 
Rico-Dangleflaps • November 5, 2024 8:50 PM GMT
there will be many people with way more knowledge than any of us who obv think 1.5 trump is correct.

everyone who has analysed it thinks it's a toss-up. Four years ago there were people betting millions on trump after he's lost.

PMSL...and not a penny struck.Happy
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 10:22 AM GMT
well, thats a surprise.....a rapist and bankrupt elected.....lol.even though he will lose the actual nationwide vote by millions.

he is not as dangerous as he seems tbf, his words rarely mirror what he actually does, and my solana holdings
will hopefully rocket even further..haha

He will be good for the us economy even though its fcked as China continues to go right past them and i hope he is true to his word re yankee isolationism...ie they will stop waging war for every day of their existence.

also think it was the oridnary folk, folk who really have no great talent in life telling folk who do have talent "up yours"..stop telling us who to vote for... and stop telling us what we are allowed to say...
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 6, 2024 10:25 AM GMT
DIFERENT GRAVY 12 06 Nov 24 08:06 
TobyMugs' cousin spouts the same cr@p as him. She also caught a 163lb Catfish apparently!

pmsl..
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 10:31 AM GMT
Storm Alert06 Nov 24 09:21Joined: 22 Oct 02 | Topic/replies: 10,080 | Blogger: Storm Alert's blog
Won in a canter, hosed up in the popular vote as well which a republican president elect rarely does. I guess Americans still don't trust a woman in charge, even with the abortion controversy.

he wont win the popular vote...not a chance......when its all certified he will be way behind.
Report 04arsenalfc. November 6, 2024 10:38 AM GMT
Not a chance? - 100/1+ available? Look's a wrap.
Report CagliariG November 6, 2024 10:38 AM GMT
The result does not alter the fact that shafter and co are morons for betting on it!!! NAP
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 6, 2024 10:43 AM GMT
CagliariG 06 Nov 24 06:33

Oh, my perfect cousin
What I like to do she doesn't
She's her family's pride and joy
Her mother's little golden girl.
Report Hayden November 6, 2024 10:44 AM GMT
Pleasing outcome , Dan Bongino's podcast absolutely spot on and a must listen if you follow politics all year round   Happy
Report swiftynifty November 6, 2024 10:54 AM GMT
A disastrous result for the BBC. Heads should roll.
Report Kriskin November 6, 2024 11:14 AM GMT
The melt down on BBC 5 live this morning on the Nicky Campbell show was on another level
Report sparrow November 6, 2024 11:15 AM GMT
BBC!  Never mind the BBC what about the rest of the civilised world?
Report know all November 6, 2024 11:22 AM GMT
Won hard held lol, these fk news outlets bbc and the like pumping Harris was in front knowing it was all lies, bookies called it right , all these news outlets now squirming the lies were exposed, many called it right they knew well done
Report the dealer November 6, 2024 11:24 AM GMT
Will be an interesting few months as he settles back in.
Report BennyBinion1 November 6, 2024 11:24 AM GMT
Fuinny.

Certainly not the normal civilised world who are worried that the don beat the useless corrupt democrats so easy.

But the crazy unhinged lefties that are!

Arise the don!

Can we have some more salty tears from your mums back bedroom!

Great to see
Report penzance November 6, 2024 11:24 AM GMT
Spouting out their Harris'.
Report the dealer November 6, 2024 11:32 AM GMT
Who will he go after first ?

At home not abroad
Report know all November 6, 2024 11:34 AM GMT
Keith starmer sent 100 Labourites over to USA to campaign for Harris, trump called him out, bit of a climb down now and ars. Licking required from our prime minister, funny never heard that on the bbc and the like, gb  news the only one you heard it on
Report the dealer November 6, 2024 11:36 AM GMT
We will be okay up here, he loves Scotland, a bit of work needed down south
Report know all November 6, 2024 11:37 AM GMT
Will end the war soon, stop illegal immigration, 10 million come in since Biden , he said he will return all illegal immigrants who have convictions, he is for legal immigration
Report sparrow November 6, 2024 11:39 AM GMT
And we will all live happily ever after so long as the convict keeps out of prison.
Report Whippin Piccadilly November 6, 2024 11:39 AM GMT
Report•Quote•Block Userihal essex • November 5, 2024 3:34 PM GMT
Trump's cult following are mostly deranged, beyond making rational financial decisions! I've lumped on Kamala already, can't believe 6/4 still available. Im going in again! My only concern is that the Ginger Donut will once again cry foul and hold up payment of my


This bozo couldn't even back the winner of a one Horse race! lol
Report the dealer November 6, 2024 11:40 AM GMT
Yes a lot of things have happened in the last four years,
Report kevo November 6, 2024 11:53 AM GMT
Another 4 years of the posturing narcissus.
Report DancingBraveTheBest November 6, 2024 11:59 AM GMT
Not naming names but you know who you are......bitter about Donalds incredible victory.....credit where credit is due.....what an amazing person Donald Trump is...truly fantastic. Those who are bitter are generally the ones who feed off the main stream media.....believing every little morsel fed to them. Its wakey wakey time now for the Donald haters....probably the same people who voted the utterly useless and incompetent Starmer and Liebour into powerSad
Report Storm Alert November 6, 2024 12:16 PM GMT
Trump is ~5million votes ahead with the popular vote with four results to come.
Report Hayden November 6, 2024 12:32 PM GMT
Agree with majority of that Dancing , admit to being a Sky News only follower but for some real world say it as it is balance i'm an avid follower of the Dan Bongino podcasts , binned bbc on all outlets many years ago after they ceased sports coverage and turned a blind eye to heinous crimes.
Report Cardinal Scott November 6, 2024 12:42 PM GMT
Report Hayden November 6, 2024 12:49 PM GMT
It's now a Podcast world if you want to follow big events seriously and keep them real , mainstream media is a million behind in each of honesty , understanding and telling it how it is.
Report howard November 6, 2024 1:23 PM GMT
Aberdonia   Storm Alert06 Nov 24 09:21Joined: 22 Oct 02 | Topic/replies: 10,080 | Blogger: Storm Alert's blog
Won in a canter, hosed up in the popular vote as well which a republican president elect rarely does. I guess Americans still don't trust a woman in charge, even with the abortion controversy.

he wont win the popular vote...not a chance......when its all certified he will be way behind.

no offers..changed your mind ?
Report tanglefoot November 6, 2024 1:27 PM GMT
No more of eating of cats and dawgs in Springfield,Homer Simpson will be saying damn
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 1:41 PM GMT
BennyBinion106 Nov 24 11:24Joined: 07 Nov 08 | Topic/replies: 3,249 | Blogger: BennyBinion1's blog
Fuinny.

Certainly not the normal civilised world who are worried that the don beat the useless corrupt democrats so easy.

But the crazy unhinged lefties that are!

Arise the don!

Can we have some more salty tears from your mums back bedroom!

Great to see


funnily enough Donny boy has been a democrat most of his life...I guarantee he would have jumped at the chance to run for them, but their woke would have had a hairy fit....Donny boy thinks the scottish nhs is the best medical system in the world, said it live in a republican debate......yes, seems I was wrong on the popular vote too.....

Little will change with donny running the USA, imo, it will still have millions of folk in poverty,working with no holidays and no health cars, its a pretty rank place for most folk.... funnily enough the majority of these poor folk being his voters....tell you what though, Donny boy and his family are going to milk this for all its worth...$$$$$$$$$
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 1:42 PM GMT
I'm not lefty economically, socially very liberal, but if I was Harris, I would say the election was stolen....just for the laughs.
Report FOYLESWAR November 6, 2024 1:42 PM GMT
bbc this morning saying trump was a big outsider in the betting ? wtf ! who they bet wiv ? fantasy island or barlows bookies !
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 6, 2024 1:52 PM GMT
CagliariG 06 Nov 24 06:33

Oh, my perfect cousin
What I like to do she doesn't
She's her family's pride and joy
Her mother's little golden girl.

Laugh
Report DIE LINKE November 6, 2024 1:56 PM GMT
any idea when these useless cts are going to settle this market?
Report Hayden November 6, 2024 1:57 PM GMT
They're clueless FOYLES   Grin
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 2:00 PM GMT
they might not settle until the election is certified.

that can be weeks...states like New York didnt certify for weeks in 2020. Biden i think won by 7 million votes eventually, it was much less than that we he was declared the winner the day after election day.

that why i thought Harris would still win the popular vote...The democrats normally hoover up all the late votes (counting) after a state has been declared.
Report CagliariG November 6, 2024 2:03 PM GMT
Misogynistic abuser of women, convicted criminal, falsifier of documents, bad loser, megalomaniac habitual liar, sociopathic and skint.

Trump to T bar the skint bit, unlucky Shafter, must try harder!!
Report DIE LINKE November 6, 2024 2:05 PM GMT
This market will be settled once both the projected winner is announced by the Associated Press and the losing candidate concedes.

Thought Harris had conceded, but still needs to do it formally. Hope she hasn't already taken the tranquilisers. Just settle the market FFS. Most bookies have.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 6, 2024 2:11 PM GMT
CagliariG 06 Nov 24 14:03 
Misogynistic abuser of women, convicted criminal, falsifier of documents, bad loser, megalomaniac habitual liar, sociopathic and skint.

Trump to T bar the skint bit, unlucky Shafter, must try harder!!


thort this was about rico.
Report Cardinal Scott November 6, 2024 2:12 PM GMT
Will all the Trumpers on here still be jizzing their pants when he slaps tariffs on Blighty? or pulls out of NATO meaning our defence spending would have to quadruple.

America on of the very few countries that Blighty has a trade surplus with.  If Kier Starmer wants to prevent traiffs that he should install Nigel Farage as US Ambassador

AND I'M DEADLY SERIOUS
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 2:18 PM GMT
Trump rarely follows through the words with action.

i think he is a grifter and has won this through just being a bit crazy, and portraying himself as an outsider, when he is the elite..a silver spoon boy, draft dodger, whose daddy bailed him out many times.

will say, some of his advisers are total lunatics and there are a number of russians in and about him.
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 2:19 PM GMT
there will be lots of tax breaks for himself mind, and for very, very rich folk..
Report howard November 6, 2024 2:29 PM GMT
everyone will be better off and so will many foreign soldiers...no popular vote win eh ?
Report howard November 6, 2024 2:31 PM GMT
not quite old money in my book. Father a self made man and mother from wind-swept Scottish island
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 2:35 PM GMT
time will tell on "everyone better off"...

most of the time this has fck all to do with governments and more to do with the worlds economy.

ie, most countries prosper and fall at the same time. Down to luck as to when you are elected.

hate the labour party, but they have been left an economic catastrophe by the tories.

brexit followed by the pandemic, meant that spending was totally out of control..tories spent money, and it was borrowed money, like Corbyn on speed...To give that bellend Starmer his due, he is actually trying to get it under control....He will get no credit, and my bet is reform in england will prosper hugely.

these right wing populist parties always look to me like "socialism for the indigenous population"

im very pro free market, and than means free movement of folk, giving employers the best labour force they can have thus boosting the economy...the white working class im afraid, are lazy, unreliable and not very good..
Report BennyBinion1 November 6, 2024 2:36 PM GMT
Great to keep reading the salty tears and lefty tantrums.

Please keep it up on all trump threads on the forum.
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 2:37 PM GMT
i would take 5 poles over 20 english or scottish workers every day of the week.
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 2:39 PM GMT
benny , im not left wing, i dont even recognise left wing and right wing....right wing, seems to have turned into a hatred of immigrants as far as i can see and very little else.

the lack of labour, decent hard working labour is fcking up the economy, see my earlier post....on the useless white working class, who do nothing but moan about others for their pish lifes.

its the immigrants who run business, and get on....
Report howard November 6, 2024 2:45 PM GMT
"the lack of labour, decent hard working labour is fcking up the economy"      Lack of making anything in the first place might have more to do with it.  We won't be making choc bars soon never mind steel.
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 2:49 PM GMT
lack of making anything...well that goes back to Thatcher imo, a woman responsible for most of the mess that has happened decades later..

that and you english are running out of scottish oil to milk...Thatcher used it for all her freebies and bribes , never mind her destruction of manufacturing and afforable rented housing.
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 2:52 PM GMT
The UK is one of the few countries in western europe that is obsessed with home ownership....It means folks disposable income is handcuffed to a mortgage for most of their life, strangling the economy..


the uk has been a mess for a very long time imho.
anyway enough of this pish.....cant do anything about it..lol
Report Whippin Piccadilly November 6, 2024 2:54 PM GMT
This Aberdonia is the a proper clueless ****!
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 2:56 PM GMT
https://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/Energy-Voices/2013/0408/How-North-Sea-oil-helped-Margaret-Thatcher


you english, bloody human cuckoos..

been at it for centuries..wink
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 2:57 PM GMT
Joined: 02 Mar 07 | Topic/replies: 10,130 | Blogger: Whippin Piccadilly's blog
This Aberdonia is the a proper clueless ****!

a rich clueless ****   get it right...
Report Whippin Piccadilly November 6, 2024 3:03 PM GMT
1. Trump's wealth decreased whilst he was in office last time. So it actually cost him money becoming the POTUS
2. British Working Classes use to produce the finest products/workmanship available ANYWHERE in the world. That was until all our industries were destroyed by cheap imports and even cheaper labour in the form of immigrants.
3.September 27, 2024 - The North Sea oil and gas industry contributed £35 billion to the UK economy (a little under 1% of GDP) in 2014 and is expected to decline in the coming years. And the pricks in the Labour Government will be reducing this even further via the Climate Change cam.

Just 3 of you uneducated opinions debunked. And I can do this for eveything you've spouted.
Report Whippin Piccadilly November 6, 2024 3:06 PM GMT
Are you feck! Did you get your payment of UC today or something?
Report Whippin Piccadilly November 6, 2024 3:09 PM GMT
aberdonia • November 5, 2024 8:26 PM GMT
The yanks have a very odd voting system....Harris is currently 1.32 to win the popular vote, she will win it by many millions , Trump is 4.1 to win the popular vote.

I still doubt he is going to win, due to pollsters overestimating his support due to getting burned in 16 and 20.
But if he does win, he will have lost again..He has never won a popular vote...

Report•Quote•Block Useraberdonia • November 5, 2024 8:27 PM GMT
this has the smell of the english brexit vote to me, where odds will flip flop at some point during the night...


Did you get wealthy making clueless guesses like this? Grin
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 6, 2024 3:33 PM GMT
aberdonia • November 5, 2024 8:26 PM GMT
The yanks have a very odd voting system....Harris is currently 1.32 to win the popular vote, she will win it by many millions

im in the money..walofs ydc Laugh
Report howard November 6, 2024 3:36 PM GMT
his illegal streams must be running late
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 4:28 PM GMT
i just think you english have run out of countries to leach off...
your brexit couldnt have happened at a worse time...just as you were down of your ar ses.

good that you took back control though...thats what counts.
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 4:45 PM GMT
as for paying premium charge ....well done that you are winning enough to have to pay a tax on your profit.

i dont bet in high enough volumes in any case, those days went 10 years ago for me...Purely recreational now, albeit, some sizeable bets.
as for my illegal streams.
i have over 100 playlists on my telly, numerous apps and a ridiculous amount of vpns....these playlists are better than anything sky offer, at the fraction of the cost...no way im paying full whack to sky when i can pay much less for perfect streams and channels from every country in the world.

anyway, lets agree to differ.....if everyone thought the same wed be living under socialism...a horrific thought...
Trump 2028.....no stopping at twice for the Don..
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 6, 2024 4:46 PM GMT
its 2024 aberdonia..anyone can get any every sky channel and 1000's of others for £60 a yr.
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 4:53 PM GMT
rico, i can get it for much less than that, and straight from the satellite.
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 4:56 PM GMT
but you are right
every uk sports channel
every usa sports channel
every oz sports channel
every nz sports channel
every canada sports channel
every ppv sports channel
every 4k channel.
i was going to post pictures but ive forgot how to do it instantly..
oh, btw, i have paid for racing tv...got the app on my streaming boxes, got a nvidia shield, a formuler z11 pro max and a homatics 4k r....just showing off now..Excited
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 6, 2024 4:57 PM GMT
£1.20p a week and no dish needed.
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 4:58 PM GMT
as for racing channels on the playlists

ive got the french racing channel, the oz one's, nz ones, canada one's usa one's , dubai racing channel
as well as all the bookmaker feeds, granted behind live but not far behind.

on the satellite feeds we have, racing tv is 6 seconds behind live, which i believe is the exact same as sky, i ditched sky 3 years ago when i found out about i p t v and just how good it is if you know where to go.
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 5:00 PM GMT
There is a playlist that is 15usd for 1 year - roughly £11 odds

32,000 channels
150,000 movies
25,000 series

rock solid too...
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 6, 2024 5:01 PM GMT
racing tv is 6 seconds behind live, which i believe is the exact same as sky

rtv is 1.6 sec behind live.
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 5:05 PM GMT
on sky?  i thought it was 6 seconds, the football is 6 seconds....
ill just log into the racing tv app see how far behind live that is, probably 20 seconds..
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 6, 2024 5:06 PM GMT
rtv on sky is approx -1.6 atr is -10
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 5:06 PM GMT
The racing tv app on my formuler z11 pro max is 11 seconds behind live.
Report aberdonia November 6, 2024 5:13 PM GMT
Watching racing tv via the website is the same, 11 seconds behind live.
Report hulk23 November 6, 2024 8:16 PM GMT
bookies called it right

pmsl LaughLaugh

8/11 ?? should've been 1/9
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 7, 2024 3:36 PM GMT
CagliariG 06 Nov 24 06:33

Oh, my perfect cousin
What I like to do she doesn't
She's her family's pride and joy
Her mother's little golden girl.

Report Cider November 7, 2024 3:56 PM GMT
aberdonia • November 5, 2024 8:26 PM GMT
The yanks have a very odd voting system....Harris is currently 1.32 to win the popular vote, she will win it by many millions , Trump is 4.1 to win the popular vote.

I still doubt he is going to win, due to pollsters overestimating his support due to getting burned in 16 and 20.
But if he does win, he will have lost again..He has never won a popular vote...


deary me, post of the year Grin
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 7, 2024 3:58 PM GMT
aber full bank 1.32.
Report Cider November 7, 2024 4:18 PM GMT
It was the opposite way around, Trump to win OR and popular vote @7/2 was a cracking bet.
Report Whippin Piccadilly November 7, 2024 4:26 PM GMT
This result also proves without a shadow of doubt that the last Election was stolen. You only have to a look at those missing votes for your confirmation. Trump made sure it couldn't happen this time around though. Now suck it up Trump haters! Grin
Report Angela Rebecchi November 7, 2024 4:39 PM GMT

Nov 5, 2024 -- 5:32PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:


The 1.3-1.4 on Iowa will be the best bet of the election. Rogue pollster spooking the market.


Only won by over 10 points Laugh

Report ihal essex November 7, 2024 5:24 PM GMT
Trump's cult following are mostly deranged, beyond making rational financial decisions!

So your saying about 49/51% of Americans are as you describe.

Stewarty, should have gone to Specsavers! In your summation you ignored the vital word "mostly" which puts a much different emphasis on my post.

Very disappointing, as I'm a fan and print every one of your 40,000+ and Whippin Piccadilly's 100k+ pearls of wisdom posts and keep them in the bathroom. Saves a fortune, haven't bought Andrex for years!
Report Trendy November 7, 2024 6:13 PM GMT
I think i will stick to betting on politics rather than horse racing,financially more benificial.Same as Brexit trust the silent majority!
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 7, 2024 7:32 PM GMT
all jussed guessing unless have inside knowledge.
Report Cider November 7, 2024 7:37 PM GMT
Not at all. But many people who play politics simply aren't very good at it. They can't help being sucked in by opinion polling. Which simply creates value, significant value in the right circumstances.
Report DIE LINKE November 7, 2024 7:43 PM GMT
Easy for you, Cider, you waited til after the event.
Report Angela Rebecchi November 7, 2024 7:44 PM GMT

Nov 7, 2024 -- 1:37PM, Cider wrote:


Not at all. But many people who play politics simply aren't very good at it. They can't help being sucked in by opinion polling. Which simply creates value, significant value in the right circumstances.


Correct. Crazy value. For instance, Iowa was no different to backing Frankel !

Sadly Elon was involved as it's rumoured he had tens of millions on Trump.

Report Cider November 7, 2024 7:47 PM GMT
Easy for you, Cider, you waited til after the event.


It is easy for me, but I was calling Trump on the Politics board before the off, especially the popular vote.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 7, 2024 7:56 PM GMT
post your bets then.
Report slickster November 7, 2024 8:06 PM GMT
Weighed in. Wade in.
Report the old nanny ;-) November 7, 2024 10:13 PM GMT
Be some Serious Issues for the EU re Ukraine , Trump wont be sending 60 Billions ,and will insist on everyone paying their Way

UK we have a Lunatic sending 11 Billion abroad Climate Aid , Trump on the Drill Baby Drill Project

where we getting the extra Billions for Ukraine from ?
Report breadnbutter November 8, 2024 11:29 AM GMT
Not sure the US have "given" Ukraine 60B

It's a loan from all G7? and the US want a higher % on thar part of it(15B), also the loan is being paid by interest on frozen Russian assets.

Stand to be corrected but the idea munee is being given is wrong, and don't forget a lot of the spend will be on US arms.

US want extra % in case Russia funds are released b4 all repayments are made.

Of course they are in a good position all round and any "peace" deal will be favourable to them imo,it's a case of how much will Russia be forced to pay and to who.
Reckon Trump will be quite hard on Israel to cease palastine ops and will drive a hard bargain on Russia,can imagine Black Sea oil/gas reserves being a big part of it imo. Hopefully a deal can be done and everyone can keep face but a lot of dead and that can't be for nothing, difficult situation but will come down to munee in the end.
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