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De_man
08 Oct 24 19:40
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Useless piece of carp....why is he on horses...worst jock going atm
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Report formoftheace October 9, 2024 11:07 AM BST
Management 09 Oct 24 08:31 
GB Flat last 5 seasons 134 winners from 1047 rides (13%) £1 stake = + £63.66
GB Flat current season 57 winners from 432 rides (13%) £1 stake = + £75.77

Even if you take out the 50/1 winner (72/1 BFSP) from Bath last week, he is a rare beast, in so much as he shows a level stake profit (at Industry SP) over a 5 year period and a proper sample size of rides. Not many doing that.

When you look at who he predominantly rides for and their MO, those numbers are pretty amazing imo.

What’s this P ?

The ride in Q was poor …….quite a few have mentioned it so it’s not all about one punter complaining…..and no i didn’t play before you spout & squawk…..
Report formoftheace October 9, 2024 11:13 AM BST
Watch how vigorous Hollie Doyle is on the winner and young billy on the third compared to the second….

Head to spec save if you think it looks fine…..
Report The Management October 9, 2024 12:04 PM BST
Let's be honest f4rty, it probably wasn't one of his better rides - but it also wasn't really worth of any abuse.

If you accept that the horse is a stayer/middle distance horse - surely the time to back him was when he stepped up to 10f for the first time off a lowly mark and bolted up so convincingly that the trainer was required to give an explanation!

BFSP was 13/1 and it got a pretty similar ride that day imo. Here are the two RP comments:

Took keen hold, prominent, lost position but in touch with leaders after 4f, headway over 1f out, went second final 110yds, kept on (tchd 6/4)

Prominent, dropped to midfield after 3f, pushed along and headway from over 2f out, went second over 1f out, led inside final furlong, ran on well (trainer said, regarding the apparent improvement in form, that gelding had benefitted from a step up in trip from 7f to 1m2f) (op 16/1)

Of course the main difference is that he was carrying 10lbs less when he first won.

If you are going to wait till he's won twice and has gone up 10lbs in the weights - you get what you deserve imo. i.e a bet in a Handicap at 5/4.

It's a tough old game if you are only capable of waiting until "it's there for all to see". Typically you will have missed the bus and will end up betting very short priced favs in handicaps - and you know how that works out for you. You end up squawking like an old woman!
Report formoftheace October 9, 2024 12:44 PM BST
I don’t think it was more frustration from the punters……like I say watch other riders heading towards the line…..

I remember on a few occasions Willie Carson still riding a finish just past the line…..
Report Hayden October 9, 2024 1:02 PM BST
Agree with that TM post , the time to take the pre-race narrative on board is when something significantly different is applied creating the ability for connections to produce a ready made excuse for any previously inexplicable performances.

You need something more recent than a Willie Carson comparison Ace to help prove a point , he's in his eighties    Happy
Report penzance October 9, 2024 1:06 PM BST
Were they before or after his ride on Kamari?
Report formoftheace October 9, 2024 1:27 PM BST
The whole point is punters want to see vigorous riding near the line,especially when getting a clear view,he wasn’t riding vigorous like the winning  rider…….punters could have been waiting for a good line for a few quid
Report formoftheace October 9, 2024 1:30 PM BST
Like I say never played,noticed the post,watched the race after the @Barstewards mentioned it….
Report The Management October 9, 2024 1:39 PM BST
Hayden09 Oct 24 13:02Joined: 15 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 14,727 | Blogger: Hayden's blog
Agree with that TM post


Thanks Hayden. F4rty's pathetic response at 12:44 doesn't really inspire me to bother any more.
I think will just leave the thread for all the "pen chuckers" to seethe about the jockeys that are responsible for all of their losses.
Report formoftheace October 9, 2024 1:42 PM BST
Ffs
Report formoftheace October 9, 2024 1:43 PM BST
Yeah just wrap them in cotton wool ffs….
Report The Management October 9, 2024 2:21 PM BST
formoftheace09 Oct 24 13:43Joined: 17 Apr 12 | Topic/replies: 16,211 | Blogger: formoftheace's blog
Yeah just wrap them in cotton wool ffs….


Why are you suggesting something so extreme? Obviously that's the opposite extreme of abusing them on the internet - but still very extreme.

Is there not any topic where you could just take part in a rational discussion? Or would that just expose your ignorance?

I'll leave you to have a love-in with the likes of De_man, 1830, SirMickWeble*, Basil Brush, etc.

* A brilliant contributor, much missed since they sectioned him.
Report GEORGE.B October 9, 2024 2:32 PM BST
Sadly, TM, Mick has gone to that big angry punters' betting shop in the sky.
Report The Management October 9, 2024 2:36 PM BST
Thanks George, I was not aware. That would explain them ordering more pens though.
Report GEORGE.B October 9, 2024 2:39 PM BST
It was reported by the RP a while back, apparently he'd been living with cancer.

Might explain why he thought he could say anything abusive that he liked, if he knew he wasn't going to be around for much longer.
Report The Management October 9, 2024 2:45 PM BST
He was VERY abusive. I suppose that goes some way to explaining it.
Report formoftheace October 9, 2024 2:47 PM BST
The Management 09 Oct 24 14:21 
formoftheace09 Oct 24 13:43Joined: 17 Apr 12 | Topic/replies: 16,211 | Blogger: formoftheace's blog
Yeah just wrap them in cotton wool ffs….

Why are you suggesting something so extreme? Obviously that's the opposite extreme of abusing them on the internet - but still very extreme.

Is there not any topic where you could just take part in a rational discussion? Or would that just expose your ignorance?

I'll leave you to have a love-in with the likes of De_man, 1830, SirMickWeble*, Basil Brush, etc.

* A brilliant contributor, much missed since they sectioned him.

Who did I abuse you fool ?

The ride was brought to my attention so I decided to look……like I say compare the action of the first and third ffs

You lecturing bore…..
Report The Management October 9, 2024 2:57 PM BST
Fair play f4rty - I didn't realise you had watched the race. End of discussion now that you have cast your expert eye.

Apologies also to the OP, it seems "Useless piece of carp....why is he on horses...worst jock going atm"
was a very fair assessment of a jockey that is winning at level stakes over a 5 year period and 1000+ rides.

And to 1830, he was spot on when he said "I Fu***g hate jockeys - Thick as Fck"
Report formoftheace October 9, 2024 3:17 PM BST
Looks like you are suffering from something….an age thing maybe…

Personally I think marsh is a good capable rider,but that particular race wasn’t his best moment tbh…..

Zzzzzzz it’s like taking to a waste bin tbh…
Report The Management October 9, 2024 3:23 PM BST
formoftheace09 Oct 24 15:17Joined: 17 Apr 12 | Topic/replies: 16,213 | Blogger: formoftheace's blog
Personally I think marsh is a good capable rider,but that particular race wasn’t his best moment tbh…..
Report The Management October 9, 2024 3:24 PM BST
The Management09 Oct 24 12:04Joined: 27 Dec 00 | Topic/replies: 10,813 | Blogger: The Management's blog
Let's be honest f4rty, it probably wasn't one of his better rides - but it also wasn't really worth of any abuse.
Report The Management October 9, 2024 3:24 PM BST
De_man08 Oct 24 20:40Joined: 23 Dec 15 | Topic/replies: 2,622 | Blogger: De_man's blog
Useless piece of carp....why is he on horses...worst jock going atm
Report formoftheace October 9, 2024 3:29 PM BST
The Management 09 Oct 24 15:24 
De_man08 Oct 24 20:40Joined: 23 Dec 15 | Topic/replies: 2,622 | Blogger: De_man's blog
Useless piece of carp....why is he on horses...worst jock going atm

He says that about most losing punts….banter,tongue in cheek ? I don’t really care…..

I only give out bad like most when we witness a smelly one…and there’s been a few since the invention of blue or pink….

Check the history of warned off…..air shot Dean etc…
Report The Management October 9, 2024 3:35 PM BST
Tongue in cheek/banter?

He followed it up with this:

De_man08 Oct 24 20:49Joined: 23 Dec 15 | Topic/replies: 2,622 | Blogger: De_man's blog
i wish him all the worst for his kind
Report formoftheace October 9, 2024 3:52 PM BST
Just ignore him…..

Like I say I noticed a well known podcast made a comment and decided to watch the video..
Report s.kenbo October 9, 2024 3:58 PM BST
Anyone worked out what De_Moan’s saver was yet?
Report kavvie October 9, 2024 6:01 PM BST
if the race was ran again 10 times with 10 diff jockeys on the horse how many would win on it? id say none. just wasnt good enough. people see things that are not there  when they lose money.
Report De_man October 10, 2024 3:54 AM BST
Lol.. took on a life of its own...like i said i always back 2 in a race .main fancy and maybe a danger or improver .. saved my stake back on Hollies Palmer 3 runs nag that won so wasnt pocket talking as broke even on the race but i like to dish out if non trier s or fishy rides like the ride in this race where no effort involved and stated how horse was ridden .. i backed it last 3 runs and will back it nto too... no harm pointing out poor efforts on horse racing forum.. thats supposed to be what its about ..to highlight inept rides..highlight possible winners ...etc etc.. forum is dead anyways with idiots who spout that folk are pocket talkers and cant express an opinion on a sport you place money down as the central theme ... punters who punt should be the most entitled to voice an opinion after placing their hard earned cash down..but morons like TM and S Kenbo will spout otherwise... no logic especially old f4ts like Kenbo...
Report De_man October 10, 2024 3:58 AM BST
Agree with FormAce about pointing out smelly ones and agree many since bet not fair ruined racing ... now easier to not try .. slow start etc see Spiller etc ...
Report The Management October 10, 2024 10:36 AM BST
The Management09 Oct 24 12:04Joined: 27 Dec 00 | Topic/replies: 10,819 | Blogger: The Management's bl
If you are going to wait till he's won twice and has gone up 10lbs in the weights - you get what you deserve imo. i.e a bet in a Handicap at 5/4.

It's a tough old game if you are only capable of waiting until "it's there for all to see". Typically you will have missed the bus and will end up betting very short priced favs in handicaps - and you know how that works out for you. You end up squawking like an old woman!
Report Hayden October 10, 2024 11:23 AM BST
If the saying " It's there for all to see " ever had any credence you can probably guarantee two things.......

-The price is far shorter than the realistic true odds due to the imponderables of Horse Racing

-You've " followed " 98% of the losing public.

Strongly suspect though the selection criteria called Its there for all to see is a nonsensical red herring.


Good luck today all     Happy
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 11:41 AM BST
Form Hayden,regardless who tips or has an opinion……pundits have been known to say the form is all there….figure of speech…..tbf….
Report Hayden October 10, 2024 11:55 AM BST
I don't do form Ace , the term form produces far too many long term losers in the modern game such as Tom , Dick and Harry.

Main issue with form is it needs to be allowed as well as produced    Happy
Report The Management October 10, 2024 11:57 AM BST
Figure of speech used by lazy/ignorant people that aren't capable of looking or seeing beyond the obvious.

The same sort of people that think in football when a top team meet a bottom team it will always be 4:0 BlushCry
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 1:16 PM BST
Zzzzzzzz the old LP record appears again…..Ffs
Report The Management October 10, 2024 1:37 PM BST
Laugh I'm the broken record?

If you got given just a pound for every pocket talking jockey bashing thread started by the same 4 or 5 people on here - you'd be almost level for the year! Not quite but almost.
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 1:38 PM BST
Check young billy in the first at Bath getting third place……AP McCoy material….vigorously ridden unlike some of the lazy pr!cks….
Report The Management October 10, 2024 1:51 PM BST
Riding out for a place is probably worthy of a fairly regular thread tbf.

The trouble is, all the pocket-talking threads from the usual suspects actually detract from that. So many "false alarms" from pocket talkers that the real ones just get lost in the noise -  The boy who cried wolf!

It also makes it very for the sports cheerleaders just to say "pocket talking mugs" all of the time, if nine times out of ten, that is actually the case.
Report De_man October 10, 2024 2:23 PM BST
Pocket talkers is the silliest term ever used imho...
Think form is important term to be honest and encompasses a lot ..might be too broad a term...i think it refers to previous runs etc..i like to view videos of previous runs and look for unlucky losers...poorly positioned ...poor handled horses and try to put them in context with other runners runs to try get a handle.. then take into account other variables like ground ...breeding ..trainer form etc to get a half idea ... think viewing previous races and not written form is important and not follow timeform/racing ppsts analysis much...
Agree form needs to be allowed as well as produced as a lot of Spiller type cases involved and been involved in handicap plots personally to know that lots can be contained in previous races given the right handling until the day so i think if sport wants to survive and have punter confidence it needs to follow the Aussie system with more regimented stewardship where all more accountable with punitive measures enforced rigidly to non triers etc and the barrier trial system where not training horses on the course and holding horses back for big pots ..obviously need better prizepool like there also to make laying not as attractive and encourage more triers ... nothing worse than watching your hard earned on a horse thats simple given no chance by jockeyship etc .. bad luck i can take but the rest is jarring...
Just my opine though...
Report De_man October 10, 2024 2:26 PM BST
Silliest argument ever put forward by TM above re so called pocket talkers .. better to point out poor rides and non triers by the usual suspects and regular place non triers like frank and moore et all than not too under a silly misapprehension that it will amount to so called pocket talking taking away from it ...total bs. Imho ...
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 2:33 PM BST
The Management 10 Oct 24 13:51 
Riding out for a place is probably worthy of a fairly regular thread tbf.

The trouble is, all the pocket-talking threads from the usual suspects actually detract from that. So many "false alarms" from pocket talkers that the real ones just get lost in the noise -  The boy who cried wolf!

It also makes it very for the sports cheerleaders just to say "pocket talking mugs" all of the time, if nine times out of ten, that is actually the case.

Don’t be such a toilet ffs

Countless people are on here regarding riders not riding out and losing place pots etc……

Up towards the line in a bunch finish every other rider should look bust…….Bla Bla ……
Report The Management October 10, 2024 2:38 PM BST
How about - Scrap the physical element of the actual race - instead get a panel to sit and determine the result (like the pools panel) - based on their interpretation of the "form" from previous virtual races?

Every horse would always be given a perfect ride, more favourites might win and people that think like the panel would win. Sounds good. Let's call it Portman Park Racing.
Report sparrow October 10, 2024 2:42 PM BST
Sorry to interrupt but thought I might mention Finlay winning the 2.35 at Bath.
Report s.kenbo October 10, 2024 3:30 PM BST
There’s quite a few ‘pocket talking mugs’ on here. They have no self respect and even less money. They think any 5/4f shot should win and they are on here minutes after it loses venting their frustration.
Report comingupthehill October 10, 2024 3:35 PM BST
It’s not the pocket talkers fault.

Betfair take bets,Betfair has a forum,it is what it is.

People are free to do what they want,unless offensive,or break rules,then they will be banned,blocked.

what do you expect people to do,

Ooh I just backed the last fav,unlucky how it was tailed off then the jockey fell off,never mind,maybe be next time.
Report CagliariG October 10, 2024 3:40 PM BST
On the nail Kenbo and it seems to be the same perpetual losers who attack anything other than their own ineptness, just read one about Gettings and saying any other jockey would have won on Magical Escape.

Must have watched a different race to me, gave it a very good ride and I lost on it!!
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 3:45 PM BST
Ffs look who it is…
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 3:46 PM BST
CagliariG 10 Oct 24 15:40 
On the nail Kenbo and it seems to be the same perpetual losers who attack anything other than their own ineptness, just read one about Gettings and saying any other jockey would have won on Magical Escape.

Must have watched a different race to me, gave it a very good ride and I lost on it!!

Holy Christ almighty LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 3:48 PM BST
I never backed anything in the race ….a certain podcast brought it up so I looked…..just call it lazy near the line ffs

Ffs tbf……
Report CagliariG October 10, 2024 3:50 PM BST
Shoemark just recovered the loss Quixall @ 10/3, another 3rd rate jockey according to you!!! Do all the smileys mean you watched the Exeter race and disagree? If so why not explain why?
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 3:55 PM BST
He lost the ride on Inspiral owned as you well know by one of the largest organisations in the game…..they obviously think the other one is better …..telling you all you need to know tbf
Report penzance October 10, 2024 3:56 PM BST
Any of 'em won on her?
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 3:58 PM BST
Doesn’t matter it’s the opinion of the organisation tbh…..

Send it to America and Dettori would win the Breeders on her imo…
Report CagliariG October 10, 2024 4:00 PM BST
That is what ignorant idiots deduce from one decision despite the fact the trainer knows he is a good jockey and he rode a GP1 winner at the weekend which was no steering job.

1.01 he could drive a tanker better than you could ride a racehorse but that probably applies to the majority tbf...imv...tbh...!!
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 4:01 PM BST
No steering job…..Deary me you get worse tbf
Report penzance October 10, 2024 4:01 PM BST
Been retired for a reason,not the horse she was.
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 4:05 PM BST
90% of winning big races are down to the top work riders in the yard…..

They have been known telling riders to point in the right direction…..
Report CagliariG October 10, 2024 4:09 PM BST
So now you laud Rab Havlin? You could not make it up, btw Iran does not have a coastline on the Med last time I checked!! HTH
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 4:10 PM BST
I was referring to Gaza……
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 4:12 PM BST
Iran wasn’t on the documentary last night …..
Report CagliariG October 10, 2024 4:12 PM BST
Of course you were but it has nothing to do with him!! HTH
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 4:15 PM BST
Keep up ffs
Report CagliariG October 10, 2024 4:17 PM BST
Rattled you Quixall!!! NAP
Report s.kenbo October 10, 2024 4:17 PM BST
You can often tell a proper dodgy ride by the amount of threads on here seconds after the race. Two or more and there’s usually something in it. One and it’s normally just some clown who has lost a few quid, usually with ‘the worst ride’ or ‘the worst jockey’ you will ever see.
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 4:31 PM BST
Who said it was dodgy ?
Report s.kenbo October 10, 2024 5:24 PM BST
Surely even you can work out that I was talking about dodgy rides in general?
Report The Management October 10, 2024 5:28 PM BST
kenbo's 16:17 post sums it up nicely. End of thread.
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 6:55 PM BST
There’s a cheap @rgasm for you tonight Kenbo & Co……England without king Kane and hairband Grealish will thunder Greece …..dropsy in goal could be the only blip tbf
Report s.kenbo October 10, 2024 6:59 PM BST
You waste your money on that garbage if you want to. I won’t even waste my time watching it.

The law of averages say you’ll land one sooner or later. Probably not on this game though!
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 7:01 PM BST
Just a thought I won’t play but it’s an obvious one tbh…
Report The Management October 10, 2024 7:09 PM BST
Are you expecting "dropsy" to concede 4? Otherwise you wanna be grateful for a keeper that might liven them all up with a howler.

I wouldn't put you off the bet at a price. It's the ridiculously short ones you do that are utter madness imo.

Are you all-in at 11/2 on AOHW to get it all back?
Report The Management October 10, 2024 7:17 PM BST
Oh - you've backed out already Cry
Report The Management October 10, 2024 7:20 PM BST
11/2 gone now anyway - the market seems to like that team-sheet.
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 7:22 PM BST
My nap runs in the 19.15….the Balding horse win & place…….

Obvious I know…..
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 7:23 PM BST
I would rather take the 2.9 ish over 1.5 in 45 mins….
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 8:30 PM BST
Greece are now the value @ 12/1 against the pub team…..tbf
Report s.kenbo October 10, 2024 8:45 PM BST
I think you like quick thrills, Lochy. 90 minutes for a footy bet to land is too long for you, hence why you do X amount of first half goals. When your bet loses you can go in again on the second half. Then all your bets you place at 70 minutes for another goal to be scored.
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 9:16 PM BST
No danger the pub will score
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 9:17 PM BST
Thin Gordon off…..palmer next….dreadful scenes
Report formoftheace October 10, 2024 9:22 PM BST
The beautiful game ffs
Report De_man October 11, 2024 12:01 AM BST
Well done Brady :) great win for us v the Finns :) England were poor...FormAce right if got 12/1 on the Greeks... wow... Kenbo clueless again .. never said was value in a 5/4 shot or if good selection or not...didnt say dodgy either ... people making up own narratives.. said it was a poor ride...broke well and reigned back a stayer when no need and then waited till final furlong or so to make a move and finished full of running..rest invented by others ..
Report s.kenbo October 11, 2024 6:10 AM BST
Lochy was indeed correct about Greece being value at half time. Typing it on here and actually placing a bet on it are two different things. Before kick off he expected England to ‘thunder’ them. He expected two or more first half goals. Those two darts didn’t even land close to the board.
Report formoftheace October 11, 2024 7:36 AM BST
I never had a bet on the game,I just stated that a 12 was value watching 20 headless chickens end to end….turns out people got double carpet on the game..

But you have to admit England were dreadful….did Foden play ?
Report formoftheace October 11, 2024 7:39 AM BST
Scotland game on Saturday will be tin hat time too…….

The beautiful game in the Uk is a thing of the past due to multi millionaire players with a different mindset……no respect for fodder or whatever the result…..imo.
Report The Management October 11, 2024 9:30 AM BST
De_man11 Oct 24 00:01Joined: 23 Dec 15 | Topic/replies: 2,632 | Blogger: De_man's blog
... people making up own narratives.. said it was a poor ride...broke well and reigned back a stayer when no need and then waited till final furlong or so to make a move and finished full of running..rest invented by others ..


If you had submitted that ^ as your original opening post, you might have generated a reasonable discussion about the ride - but you actually went with this as you opening gambit:

De_man08 Oct 24 20:40Joined: 23 Dec 15 | Topic/replies: 2,632 | Blogger: De_man's blog
Useless piece of carp....why is he on horses...worst jock going atm


Maybe read both those posts again - and then reconsider who it is that is reinventing the narrative.
Report racing6699 October 11, 2024 6:23 PM BST
Just watched him in 6:15 on family knight. His ride made no sense. On outside coming round bend with an easy move to go wide of all to come home down straight. Steered it inside into trouble on inside. Then iust ran amonst trouble and into other horses. Interesting to see that one next time
Report De_man October 12, 2024 4:41 PM BST
Yeah England players dont show up for king and country ...they play well for paycheck in EPL though...good pick at 12/1 either way to point out if someone followed...thats what forum is for...
Yeah Racing6699 ..i have watched many of Finleys rides over the years..many make no sense to me tbh... i think in some context they could if delved deeper like many of the journeyman jocks ..need to make a living somehow as doubt much off winning riding % so ...
Report De_man October 12, 2024 4:44 PM BST
Ireland to beat Greece and Finns to do the English the weekend ...in my dreams lol...
Report CagliariG October 12, 2024 4:47 PM BST
Morons supporting idiots, what next ffs...imv...tbh...!!!?
Report De_man October 12, 2024 4:51 PM BST
Well we know you are a p i g pal so leave the thread...no one asked ya ;)
Report CagliariG October 12, 2024 4:53 PM BST
At least you recognise you are either a moron or an idiot tbf...imv...btw!!!
Report formoftheace October 12, 2024 5:00 PM BST
Cagliari go Fk yourself ffs
Report formoftheace October 12, 2024 5:05 PM BST
Lol that was banter …..
Report CagliariG October 12, 2024 5:05 PM BST
I could if I felt like doing so Quixall but boasting is not my strong suit, maybe if I had tits like you it could be different!! imv...tbf...btw...!!
Report De_man October 12, 2024 5:06 PM BST
Agree with FormAce ..go do one ya p i g... just a serial abuser of fellow forumites from what i see and a nasty piece of work...away back under your rock ya cret in ;)
Report De_man October 12, 2024 5:07 PM BST
Obvs ya go impale yourself on fenceposts ya p i g imv ..tbf...btw...!!
Report CagliariG October 12, 2024 5:10 PM BST
No abuse tbf...imv..., simple facts do the job with the morons!! hth...btw...!!!
Report CagliariG October 12, 2024 6:03 PM BST
I have entrusted him with £66 @ 2/1 on American Bay to beat the hot fav so interesting to see if the muppets can blame him for getting it beaten, if he does? 1850 hrs Chelms which I will not see as off to bed but will look in tomorrow for the all important race reading and analysis!!
Report De_man October 13, 2024 12:56 AM BST
Ul... got the fav Nemov beat but wasnt his... you ll be happy to know he did us on Ms Margie ..well backed late on from 6 s to 3/1 or so and did us on the line on Baraq... murphys law... one time gives a good effort ... fml.. if hadnt switched off i d have backed Nemov too.. twicer that horse :(
Report formoftheace October 13, 2024 8:00 AM BST
CagliariG 12 Oct 24 18:03 
I have entrusted him with £66 @ 2/1 on American Bay to beat the hot fav so interesting to see if the muppets can blame him for getting it beaten, if he does? 1850 hrs Chelms which I will not see as off to bed but will look in tomorrow for the all important race reading and analysis!

Oops Cag….
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