Starmer and Wifey attend York races to a rapturous welcome

I was really hoping some O.A.P was going to slap him oan the kisser.

if he turned up at York he would've deserved the heckling, he was due at Doncaster.

Prime minister brings family to St Leger.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxd693lzggo

Donny wasit?
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Seen them both there yesterday,lady Victoria was swooning around ,please as punch to be on his arm.he had to control her excitement,telling her it’s only one of the classics and there’s far bigger and better meetings than Donny.

She just didn’t seem to care,as his election win parachuted her into the limelight and has been on cloud nine ever since.

Like the leger it’s a marathon not a sprint.so no doubt she’ll have many better days out in the future.

Looking quite dapper the pair of 'em. Mind you they did get 70k worthof clothing and glasses from that dodgy Lord Ali, him the friend of Mandy.

Failed to declare it in the public register according to the Sunday Times today.

Cuts the winter fuel payment for some pensioners while he's taking clothes off a Lord of the realm. Not a good look eh oop missus.

C0ck of the north.

Everyone knows the tories are the best with the economy,so all kier is doing is trying to balance the budget,so tough decisions have to be made,

Nicking a few hundred quid of pensioners is hardly harsh.theyve had a great live living in this country,so taking a bit back is only fair.

Not so sure he'll be taking up the free hospitality and mixing with the public from afar, after the punishment budget.

Given he’s an experience legal mind,he can read the room,and plays his hand deftly to his audience.its all about getting the jury on his side to get the win,that’s his job,to do his best for his client.

He didn’t rise to the top of the DPP through fluking it.you need charm,accurate interpretation of the law and great oratory.

He’s not daft,he knows how to navigate his way through a case.

Agree. Deft move.

Sent away from Washington with nothing to show from his visit, turning up at the races says "Am I bothered"? But it had to be the right meeting: not too sparsely attended (standing alone would look pathetic) but not too important either, that would make the PM look lightweight.

The last mob are to blame for the winter allowance uproar , should have been means tested from the outset.

he is the first prime minister to attend the st leger since 1953 when churchill attended. racing should be glad it has got fans at the poltical top table.

Why should winter fuel allowance be means tested when other benefits such as child benefit are not? Or do rich parents not exist?

Hayden,given its only 400 quid,the cost of means testing it outweighs the cost of giving it to the richer pensioners,so it’s cheaper to just give it everyone.

Some pensioners live in big houses,but have little income,vica versa .

Perhaps just add it to the weekly pension,or give it the energy companies,telling them to lower the winter bill by 400,to any customers over 67.which these pensioners need to apply for the reduction.

No doubt though,Richard Brandon’s p.an and Alan sugars p.a. Will be instructed to apply for the reduction on there behalf,but maybe the odd pensioner might think,I don’t need it so won’t bother applying for it.

During lockdown they were giving out hundreds of quid a week to tens of millions of people for nearly two years. £50K drop to anyone spending £12 to start a 'new' business in companies house, and claim they had a covid affected business.

The wfa is a rounding error in the overall haemorrhaging of public money.

The comparatively small amount of money that will no longer be handed out will be lost to processing and approving additional pc applications, and council hardship handouts.

Child benefit is means tested. Everyone can get in theory, but the charge kicks in with high earnings, so very high earners get net zero.

The chaos covid caused,panicked everyone,so they dished out money willy nilly to save the system.

The waste or fraud is a seperate issue,that either needs investigating or writing it off.

Now everything’s stable,the gov needs to balance the books and hopefully improve growth.

Cider,child benefit is uniformed for everyone,child tax credits is means tested..clearly high earners don’t need tax credits.

Think the to$$er wished his dad was a dressmaker not a tool maker. 

Think calling the prime minister a to££er is harsh,you might disagree with his politics,decisions,but clearly he’s succeeded in 2 careers,lawyer,politician.so he must have something about him.

child benefit is means tested.


2-300 contribution to pensioners is a rounding error in the context of public money. it's simply an ideological attack, and if the Tories tried to cancel it, the Labour types would be brewing with faux outrage. there will be more attacks to come in the punishment budget.

You may be affected by the tax charge if your ‘adjusted net income’ is:

over £60,000 for the tax year 2024 to 2025
over £50,000 for tax years 2012 to 2013 up to tax year 2023 to 2024

Adjusted net income includes taxable benefits you get from your job, like a company car or medical insurance.

Your partner is responsible for paying the tax charge if their adjusted net income is also more than:

£60,000 and higher than yours (for the tax year 2024 to 2025)
£50,000 and higher than yours (for tax years 2012 to 2013 up to tax year 2023 to 2024)

You’ll need the dates your Child Benefit claim started and, if applicable, when you stopped:

If either you or your partner has an individual income of £80,000 or over, you’ll be charged the same amount as you make through Child Benefit payments. You’ll end up with no extra money from Child Benefit.

Cider ,child benefit isn’t means tested,

Go to the top off your screen and type in these letter g o o g l e.then,type in ,is child benefit means tested,hopefully you’ll get a correct answer.

I just copied the rules for you, and bolded the important part. every little helps.

Parents love their children ,so will preserve endlessly to get whatever they can to help them flourish,
There’s no stronger determination than a parents,so whatever gets in their way,they will find a way to overcome it.

Eventually people,companies,government depts cave in ,a parent just needs to have greater resolve.

They call them these days,steamroller parents,so just plough anything in their path down and flatten them.

Free childcare is withdrawn at £100k. That changed in the last Tory budget iirc.

Child benefit is more complicated.

leif re Starmer's failure to declare frocks -- aiui Starmer did declare his own free clothes but did not declare his wife's free gear. (He will do soon.)

Not a hanging offence imo, more of a technical slip, but it leaves open the question of whether he (and other MPs) should be accepting gifts in the first place.

'Technical slip' from the pontificator in chief.

not a hanging offence, but when you paint yourself as whiter than white...

Kier should be pleased.

I remember the day I walked into the reading room at Cheltenham library,and screamed at the top of my voice,welcome to Glastonbury
An old woman over the road phoned the police,they rocked up and unplugged the sound system,and told me if you carry on like that. You’ll end up at knebworth.

People struggling - he and his wife are clearly not - and they are accepting these sort of gifts. It doesn't look right at all. It looks as if they are sticking two fingers up to those who are struggling. If this was someone in the Tory party, let alone a Prime Minister, Labour would be all over it. All about service.....and the perks. He forgot to mention that bit.

Every prime minister governs for all the people,hth

All the liberalists were going on about Sunak's shoes and coffee cups. Stuff he bought himself. Very few upsides to this set of liberalists getting into political power, but one of them is it shows up the champagne socialists for what they exactly are. And why it takes a generation for them to get back in.

Kier didn’t disclose lady victorias dresses,cos maid Marion steamed into her and ripped it off her back,so then they were rolling around on the floor fighting over it.
And they slag the ladies off at aintree,it’s so uncouth.

Schtarmer is the continuity candidate, a safe pair of hands to do nothing for five years til the Tories take over again.

Another one who backer a loser at the last election, live with it ^^^

Good advice, those still moaning about losing the BREXIT vote seven years on should take note.

I've taken note of the billions it has cost our economy but never mind we got our borders back innit.

I'll talk about whatever I want on here. If you don't like it, buy Flutter Entertainment and ban me.

Here we go again....

Die Linke, if you can't take criticism then don't bother posting.

Picture poster boy following my every move. Get a life son.

As far as I am aware the people 'moaning' about Brexit are those at the bottom of pile who have now woken up to the idea that they have got nothing out of it whatsoever.

Had to laugh at sparrow's "Get a life son" jibe.

Ironic, coming from the man that uploaded 4 photos (see below) on the same day (12/9/24) so that he could post them on a thread on the Horse Racing Forum with the topic name of 'Rolos'.  He has the gall to call me 'Picture poster boy' - you couldn't make it up!

TOP2 rated nothing better to do than trawl around peoples comments and photos. Try commenting on the posts with your opinion on the subject matter rather than your usual juvenile nonsense.

Criminals taken out of prison early to accommodate the "Far Right". Pensioners robbed of a heating allowance. Doctors and Train Drivers given big pay rises. Weapons blocked to Israel. Unending daily migrants in boats. Free designer clothing from a businessman for the PM and his wife. More weapons to Ukraine. A fictional 22 billion black hole. Facebook users locked up whilst paedophile Huw Edwards gets a suspended sentence. One law for the British and another for the Non-British (Manchester Airport beatings) - It's a never ending ****-up.

Criminals release plan was a Tory policy
Junior doctors were on a pittance
Israel are committing war crimes
Migrants on boats has been an issue for years & wont be sorted after 2 months of a new government
Huw Edwards has nothing to do with government, suspended sentence he got is standard

Don't let the facts get in the way!

But they've not had a good fortnight. Heating allowance & donor scandal looks bad for them