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Rico-Dangleflaps
05 Sep 24 15:38
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Report 1st time poster September 5, 2024 3:46 PM BST
4 weeks for the offence and 9 month for trying to be a clever KOONT
Report ashleigh September 5, 2024 3:48 PM BST
will his son take over the license?Wink
Report sparrow September 5, 2024 3:51 PM BST
King George-winning trainer Shark Hanlon has had his licence withdrawn for ten months and been fined €2,000 following an IHRB investigation into the incident that saw an exposed horse carcass being pulled in a trailer behind one of his branded lorries in June.

The IHRB referral panel concluded that Hanlon had been negligent in his supervision of the matter and sanctioned him under rule 272, which pertains to licensed individuals behaving in a manner that is prejudicial to the integrity, proper conduct, or good reputation of the sport.

Hanlon has leave to apply for the final five months of the licence withdrawal to be suspended on the condition he adheres to a number of provisions as set out by the IHRB.
Report HappyHibby September 5, 2024 3:52 PM BST
hopefully all the Irish expert pundits rally around him.
Report acey deucy September 5, 2024 3:58 PM BST
Report DIFERENT GRAVY 12 September 5, 2024 4:04 PM BST
Never trust a ginger Irishman, he has tw@t written all over his face(allegedly)
Report swiftynifty September 5, 2024 4:05 PM BST
We care so much for our horses.... when they're alive and earning us money.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps September 5, 2024 4:05 PM BST
didnt he hammer the heads of the trailer bolts?
Report formoftheace September 5, 2024 4:06 PM BST
Commodities apart from the covering shed….
Report Rico-Dangleflaps September 5, 2024 4:07 PM BST
didnt he reelize sum fin was up?
Report HappyHibby September 5, 2024 4:17 PM BST
you're right swifty.
Report freddiewilliams September 5, 2024 4:19 PM BST
Was he the  one who gave Rachel Blackmore a few rides cause noone else wood
Report HappyHibby September 5, 2024 4:19 PM BST
the drift on that one at Kilbeggan yesterday was alarming...

Rishi Persad laughed about it...

Kev was straight in with the excuses.
Report Eddie Batt September 5, 2024 4:30 PM BST
A very nice guy who has no problem giving you the time of day at the races and is happy to discuss if a horse is fancied or not.
The suspension is nonsense -the general public can't handle seeing a dead animal.When all you lads are tucking into steak and chips tonight think about where the steak came from -and the answer isn't Sainsbury's.
Report HappyHibby September 5, 2024 4:33 PM BST
i always have fish fingers on a Friday tbh.
Report Eddie Batt September 5, 2024 4:38 PM BST
You are a processed food man Hibby -that makes sense.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps September 5, 2024 4:39 PM BST
happy shopper for happy hibby
Report HappyHibby September 5, 2024 4:39 PM BST
to a degree Eddie.
Report HappyHibby September 5, 2024 4:40 PM BST
i heard someone say the other day that a fish supper is £10 these days ?

ShockedShockedShocked
Report impossible123 September 5, 2024 4:43 PM BST
Only 10 months? I'd give 18 months at least. Total disrespect for a dead racehorse.
Report penzance September 5, 2024 4:51 PM BST
Nonsense the tarp came loose.18 months for that.
Get real.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps September 5, 2024 4:52 PM BST
HappyHibby 05 Sep 24 16:40 
i heard someone say the other day that a fish supper is £10 these days ?

only in #Jaywick
Report impossible123 September 5, 2024 4:57 PM BST
The tarp came loose. Would it have done if more attention was put on it eg a large piece of plastic (lining) used for outdoor pools.
Report differentdrum September 5, 2024 5:00 PM BST
It's only going to be 5 months. Don't know why they bother quoting the ten months.

It's not about the public not being able to cope with seeing a dead horse, it's about a trainer not doing his job properly. Clearly they didn't either believe his excuse, or think it was a reasonable one.
Report HappyHibby September 5, 2024 5:01 PM BST
if i paid £10 for a fish supper i wouldn't be able to eat for 9 days tbh Mr.Hunt.
Report freddiewilliams September 5, 2024 5:02 PM BST
Will he git the same exposure as Elliott
Report Rico-Dangleflaps September 5, 2024 5:05 PM BST
haggis n chips £7-99
Report HappyHibby September 5, 2024 5:09 PM BST
that would be 7 days without food.
Report freddiewilliams September 5, 2024 5:10 PM BST
A fish is 7 quid plus. A tenner for both is cheep
Report BoosterRooster September 5, 2024 5:11 PM BST
He was the star of ITV’s champions full gallop, episode one.

Hollywood Hanlon.
Report HappyHibby September 5, 2024 5:12 PM BST
Athletics on BBC2 at 7pm Mr.Hunt.
Report doorman99 September 5, 2024 5:12 PM BST
Where is the pic of this horse, can't find anything about it?
Report doorman99 September 5, 2024 5:14 PM BST
Sorry, mean't Bedelia, the underweight one the Racing Post refer to, not the dead one.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps September 5, 2024 5:20 PM BST
ive scene the pic..just a dead horse on a trailer being towed.
Report FOYLESWAR September 5, 2024 5:25 PM BST
was basking in glory after the king George ups an downs of racing ,must feel like a right lemon now !
Report HappyHibby September 5, 2024 5:28 PM BST
must have been on twitter i think doorman...

might have been exterminated ?
Report penzance September 5, 2024 5:31 PM BST
Someone put a thread up on here with a link to the original
vid.Taken by the car behind the truck.
Report leif September 5, 2024 7:34 PM BST
Where is the pic of this horse, can't find anything about it?


Forgot to Crytie off the tarpaulin
Report roggrain September 5, 2024 8:52 PM BST
Whoever initially posted the pic/video on social media should be banned for life imo.

For f***sake the animal was dead. Maybe the Monty Python skit about a dead parrot being nailed

to it's perch should be banned!
Report cloone river September 5, 2024 9:06 PM BST
So ten months for that .What has this world come too?
Report fullset September 5, 2024 9:10 PM BST
Banned for a public relations mistake. Savage.
You know who has gotten away with doping for years because they're untouchable.
Shark is a very decent man . As has been said above , he's always given me the time of day at the races .
Works his arse off and these jumped up posh paddies have kicked him in the teeth . Disgraceful
Report Eddie Batt September 5, 2024 10:07 PM BST
As an Irishman I think it is sad when we give in to the snowflakes in our society.I can remember back in the day when Colm Murray was the sports presenter on the RTE news -a horse had been killed in a handicap hurdle at Leopardstown.They showed the fall twice on the 9 o clock news and Colm said he was sorry for the horse and connections -that was the end of it.
Report acey deucy September 5, 2024 10:33 PM BST
The tarp came loose....Aye ok pal i believe you.......Not.Plain
Report cloone river September 5, 2024 11:18 PM BST
Big deal the tarp came loose not the end of the world ?
When you have live stock you have dead stock.
Its outside the back door .
Horses come and horses go.
Nothing last forever .
Everything has a beginning a middle and a end .
Part of life .
Report barstool September 5, 2024 11:21 PM BST
Put it in a hearse next time.

Problem solved.
Report acey deucy September 5, 2024 11:37 PM BST
Laugh
Report BoosterRooster September 6, 2024 6:42 AM BST
Not a fan of people losing their reputations and livelihoods just because of a photo or video clip that has caused outrage online. It’s all we ever seem to get these days. Endless outrage, and knee jerk reactions.
Report FOYLESWAR September 6, 2024 7:05 AM BST
nuf fin to see here
Report Rico-Dangleflaps September 6, 2024 10:09 AM BST
horse obv shudnt have been on show..but a 10mth ban when others are abso taking the pi$$ out of racing..

turn it in Ffs.
Report differentdrum September 6, 2024 10:09 AM BST
Almost tempted to look back and see if the same people defending Hanlon are the same one's who didn't mind seeing Elliott on top of a dead horse. It wouldn't surprise me.

Dead horses don't travel round unsecured/uncovered for a reason. Hanlon didn't do his job properly and consequently, has suffered the penalty. Nice bloke, or not, he was negligent.
Report Fashion Fever September 6, 2024 10:10 AM BST
prob a cost cutting exercise

not a great look for me
Report Joe Lampton September 6, 2024 11:01 AM BST
"Shark is a top bloke" etc etc.......got nothing to do with it.

Did he transport a dead horse in an open sided trailer? Yes
Was the horse intentionally visible? Possibly not at the outset but clearly later on (as per picture) this is not a large leap to make.

So the issue is simply should he get a ten month ban for not securing the tarp properly or otherwise not using a more suitable trailer. For what it's worth I have transported dead cattle before and I've never done it with an open trailer like the one in the picture. They've always been covered and had no need for tarp. He hasn't even put the mesh sides on! I've not checked but I'd be far from surprised if what he's done isn't illegal in the UK even if tarp in place. DEFRA and Animal Health would prosecute you 100%.

Smacks of complacency and a slap dash attitude. Use a proper trailer FFS!

From what I understand he tried to "cover up" what happened and a large part of the ban is down to that.
Report differentdrum September 6, 2024 11:14 AM BST
Yet he still thinks it's a good idea to go to Appeal.
Report GEORGE.B September 6, 2024 10:09 PM BST
https://x.com/icyestretro/status/1831867129148190898

"Shark Hanlon – A Knacker with a Licence"

"No one should be shocked by yesterday’s verdict on Shark Hanlon. His surname isn’t Mullins or from any other racing dynasty. The 10-month suspension for transporting an uncovered deceased horse wasn’t about breaking any significant rule—it was because the lorry had his yard’s name on it, and a video got circulated. People keep asking me for the clip, but if the footage isn’t widely available, then who’s really offended?

This is just more PC bullshit. We live in a time when even minor, practical actions get blown out of proportion if they’re caught on camera. The outrage isn’t about what Hanlon did, but the fact it became public. In a sport where real scandals like doping and race-fixing often get a pass, Hanlon’s “offence” is nothing but practicality. He wasn’t covering anything up—he was doing the job the way he’s always done it.

What harm was done here? The horse was dead, and Hanlon took care of it, just like anyone in the business would. But because it wasn’t hidden from view, it’s suddenly an issue. Horse racing isn’t perfect, and neither are the people in it. Yet Hanlon’s being dragged through the mud for something that barely registers compared to the real problems the sport faces.

At the end of the day, Shark Hanlon’s reputation won’t suffer from this. If anything, this situation just reinforces what people in racing have always thought—he’s a "knacker with a licence," and he’s never pretended to be anything else"
Report differentdrum September 6, 2024 11:38 PM BST
'This is just more PC bullshit' rather gives the game away.

The comparison with Mullins is a stupid one. To make that you would have to know Mullins had done similar and it's been ignored. Hanlon was suspended because he was negilgent. See the detailed post above from Joe which is much more relevant than this rant. It wouldn't have made it okay if it wasn't filmed. We should be thankful it was filmed, same with the likes of Dujardin, Todd and Elliott. As to who would be ofended at the sight of a dead animal being transported down their street, I would have thought any sane person. If nobody is offended why do think they are supposed to be covered? Yes, you can always find something worse, but it doesn't follow that you just turn a blind eye to something that isn't as bad. That's no defence at all.
Report GEORGE.B September 6, 2024 11:54 PM BST
Perhaps the comparison should have been with the Luke Comer jnr case, twelve months suspension for "numerous decomposed horse carcases on his land in 2021".

In that context Hanlon's ten months suspension seems very harsh?

Comer got a much larger fine but as the son of a bilionaire...
Report impossible123 September 7, 2024 10:30 AM BST
A ban is the absolute minimum for Comer and Hanlon both disregarding their responsible position as trainers and welfare of their charges even after death.
Report roggrain September 7, 2024 10:44 AM BST
He made a mistake in not securing the tarp well enough. For that he loses his means of earning

a living for ten months. Of course the people who made the decision to ban him never make mistakes

They are perfect. If he wins his appeal, should those who convicted him then be banned for 10

months for the mistake they made?

This is all about so called 'public perception'. Just as here in the UK the racing authorities

are far more concerned about the reaction to such an incident than the harm ,if any, caused.

The person who should possibly be banned is the idiot that posted the photo on social media,

since his or her actions are far more likely to 'bring racing into disrepute' than Hanlon's.
Report HappyHibby September 7, 2024 10:49 AM BST
who will be training his horses during his spell on the sidelines ?

what about Denise Foster ?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps September 7, 2024 10:53 AM BST
any evidence of the tarp attached?
Report acey deucy September 7, 2024 10:55 AM BST
Tarp?...He aint got no tarp.Laugh
Report impossible123 September 7, 2024 10:57 AM BST
I believe this had come about because his dad was caught with a misdemeanour deemed sufficiently serious to warrant a lengthy ban from the sport.

If a workman contravenes the rules of transporting waste, debris, etc, deemed to be detrimental to other road users in public that workman will be censured accordingly.

I think transporting a dead horse in full view of the public was sheer negligent, irresponsible, professionally incompetent, and bad taste. I think there could be other factors involved to warrant a suspension of 10 months.
Report acey deucy September 7, 2024 10:58 AM BST
Spot on imp.Plain
Report impossible123 September 7, 2024 11:08 AM BST
'acey', any tip? I'm going against the grain (softish going at Moulin/Longchamp) for Notable Speech against Charyn. I think the main danger would be Henry Longfellow as he'd proven form on softish going. I also like Inisherin for the price. He was 11/8 last time against comparable opposition except Elite Status.
Report acey deucy September 7, 2024 11:10 AM BST
I got no opinion on that Race imp good luck.
Report Cider September 7, 2024 11:29 AM BST
There is no victim here. It's a misdemeanour yes and I accept most public would be turned off by seeing a dead animal in full view (as it's unusual for them), though one presumes in rural Ireland it's less of a factor (my family owns a farm in Ireland, seen plenty of deceased animals!). The heavy penalty is due to the reaction and not the action, some plank desperate for clicks posting on social media. In my view it warranted a suspended sentence (assuming first violation).
Report fullset October 15, 2024 7:16 PM BST
I've just seen Neil channing on  Luck . Asked for his opinion , all he talked about was that it is immaterial that sharks staff will lose their livelihoods . The man is an horrible little scruff ,without a moral compass
Report fullset October 15, 2024 7:16 PM BST
I've just seen Neil channing on  Luck . Asked for his opinion , all he talked about was that it is immaterial that sharks staff will lose their livelihoods . The man is an horrible little scruff ,without a moral compass
Report fullset October 15, 2024 7:16 PM BST
I've just seen Neil channing on  Luck . Asked for his opinion , all he talked about was that it is immaterial that sharks staff will lose their livelihoods . The man is an horrible little scruff ,without a moral compass
Report freddiewilliams October 15, 2024 7:19 PM BST
Why he quitting. Can he not get someone to take licence like everyone else does
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