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Report penzance August 20, 2024 6:22 PM BST
Not long ago a young jockey eased down on an A/W track.
Think he D/Heated,didn't even lose,he got a ban.
Report ihal essex August 20, 2024 9:07 PM BST
It's just possible that James, having got into a certain race-winning lead, might just have been teasing sister Hollie and it went horribly wrong!
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 20, 2024 9:13 PM BST
is their dad still in The Professionals?
Report the dealer August 20, 2024 9:14 PM BST
And mother in Father Ted?
Report Hayden August 20, 2024 9:37 PM BST
And Popeye still in the French Connection ?
Report ihal essex August 20, 2024 9:38 PM BST
Mrs Doyle backed Hollie's mount and has had copious cups of tea celebrating! Fr Jack's sticking to the whiskey!
Report acey deucy August 20, 2024 10:09 PM BST
Not a massive fan of Seb Sanders but he was spot on with that assessment....Have a listen if you get the chance.
Report acey deucy August 20, 2024 10:12 PM BST
I have seen the replay often enough to see that he eased up a stride or two before the line.....He is a very very lucky man to get away with that.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 20, 2024 10:14 PM BST
im curious weather seb asked permission from SSR to speak his mind..
Report HappyHibby August 21, 2024 7:07 AM BST
i doubt it Mr.Hunt...

sounds like the sort of bloke who doesn't give 2 fks what the head honchos say...

which is the way it should be...

99.999999% of these presenters/pundits are too worried about upsetting folk (including their bosses)...

and racing telly is much much worse for it...

why the head honchos constantly want non boat rockers is beyond me it really is...

it leads itself to totally bland coverage with folk like Anthony Dunkley and Donn McLean getting plenty of gigs...

when havs either of them (and many others) ever said anything negative about anyone ?

totally bland...

totally boring...

totally useless...

a total turn off.
Report FOYLESWAR August 21, 2024 7:54 AM BST
whatever is said on here will not change the result ,if you have done your dough backing or laying you wont get it back ,you can argue till the cows come home it wont change the result ,its done ,its over its history!
Report HappyHibby August 21, 2024 8:23 AM BST
i didn't have a penny on the race tbh.
Report ashleigh August 22, 2024 2:08 PM BST
Ruby Walsh going to analyze the Doyle/Shepherd rides this afternoon on itv racing.
Report impossible123 August 22, 2024 3:24 PM BST
I've just seen the incident on tv 1st time today; jockey Doyle was very lucky to have gone off scot-free. I believe a penalty would be an absolute must for the ride by Doyle.

The 18-day penalty dished out to Sheppard was harsh given he dead-heated in the race - he did not lose. Also, he's appealing the penalty and photo. Interesting.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 22, 2024 3:32 PM BST


looks to be a clear gap between lower horse and line.
Report acey deucy August 22, 2024 3:54 PM BST
ashleigh22 Aug 24 14:08Joined: 23 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 20,434 | Blogger: ashleigh's blog
Ruby Walsh going to analyze the Doyle/Shepherd rides this afternoon on itv racing.

Was it worth it?   Human error says Ruby....Aye ok pal.Plain
Report CagliariG August 22, 2024 4:04 PM BST
In the case of Doyle it was horse error!!
Report formoftheace August 22, 2024 4:07 PM BST
Aye !
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 22, 2024 4:08 PM BST
Report CagliariG August 22, 2024 4:17 PM BST
You have to factor in Strong Crosswinds shafter!! HTH
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 22, 2024 4:20 PM BST
glentobymugsgaryliar 26 Jan 18  21:50

As far as I am aware I personally own the only method which will produce a long term profit,not a "system" as popularly refered to and devised after 2 decades + of research.My sole motivation for posting on any racing or betting forum is to give the average punter an edge.No more,no less.

My method would be no good to the average or even prudent punter or greedy chancers.I had an offer to purchase it following a trial by 4 individuals on the BF Forum,over a year using it.Bound by copyright etc and proven beyond doubt the worth of it.

The only time I was tempted to sell I had an offer that was £40,000 short of the £600,000 I would accept.All documented and recorded for posterity.I would only sell on condition that the proceeds went to SSAFA,knowing full well that would be the only payoff.

The offer came from a well known tipping operation who continue to rip off punters Nationwide and now coming up to their most lucrative period.

It is still for sale but £600k is the minumum I would consider to part with it on behalf of SSAFA!!

cross winds and crossed lines..~WAC
Report CagliariG August 22, 2024 4:22 PM BST
VWD though in overtaking stewb as the most clueless the Forum has EVER known!!
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 22, 2024 4:33 PM BST
TY.
Report racing6699 August 24, 2024 10:12 AM BST
Jennings in RP agrees with the vast majority on here that Doyle deserved a long ban. Unbelievable that he got away with it
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 10:20 AM BST
Proving Jennings would do well on here, as another clueless idiot!! HTH
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 24, 2024 10:25 AM BST
Report racing6699 August 24, 2024 10:26 AM BST
Doyle should have got a ban. Of course he’s going to try and make excuses. Stewards job is use their common sense
Report acey deucy August 24, 2024 10:33 AM BST
Lied through his teeth and walked out the Stewards Room laughing his c0ck off ffs...Nobody should be happy with that he should be brought back and retried imho.Plain
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 10:38 AM BST
What did he lie about acey? His saying his horse spooked at the winning line might be dubious as he obviously wouldn't know why it jinked but everything else is born out by the stills in the RP i.e the horse spooked at something then jinked left and carried on left hand down. Perfectly feasible in a split second Doyle could have become unbalanced?
Report Kriskin August 24, 2024 10:44 AM BST
Doyle had already dropped his hands before horse jinked.  He should be banned no doubt about it.
Report acey deucy August 24, 2024 10:45 AM BST
Spot on Kris.
Report racing6699 August 24, 2024 10:46 AM BST
Agree
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 10:46 AM BST
Are you sure you were watching the same race, as I said check the RP stills!!
Report penzance August 24, 2024 10:49 AM BST
He eased up.Lennie Peters would've seen that.
Report acey deucy August 24, 2024 10:50 AM BST
And Roy Orbison.Plain
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 10:51 AM BST
So you are all denying the evidence of the RP stills penzance? Maybe they were doctored!!
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 10:57 AM BST
You obviously know nothing about the game Cagliari….tbf
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 10:59 AM BST
What kind of ride / action would  Doyle have taken if it had been at York this week ?

Hard ridden all out tbf….
Report GLASGOWCALLING August 24, 2024 11:03 AM BST
Repeating what I said before, if he hadn't done anything wrong what was his long list of apologies for ?.
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 11:05 AM BST
Exactly !
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 11:07 AM BST
LOL Quixall the self proclaimed pro who thinks all jockeys are incompetent!!! Already said regardless of the words he used he described what happened and the visual evidence backs it up, he did not deny easing up, simply explained why.
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 11:08 AM BST
They are all being c@cky including the retired undesirable (imo) who snatched near the line on a right few occasions…
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 11:10 AM BST
Up towards the line in a close finish at Windsor and a close finish in a grade race at York…..totally different story…..

He can belt one imo….
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 11:11 AM BST
How is it cocky to react on a jinking horse at 35 mph + Quixall, even for you that is beyond idiotic?
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 11:15 AM BST
How many jinx each day in racing ?
Report HappyHibby August 24, 2024 11:15 AM BST
GLASGOWCALLING Aug 24 11:03 

Repeating what I said before, if he hadn't done anything wrong what was his long list of apologies for ?.

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fair point imv.
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 11:17 AM BST
I realise you live in an imaginary world Quixall but spouting hypotheticals is as much use as your tipping!!
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 11:18 AM BST
And your alter ego obviously does not understand that Doyle had to answer questions whether he had done wrong or not, might that explain?

Thicket!!
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 11:21 AM BST
In my opinion chapman probably whispered he should apologise to the fodder……then whatever excuse…..
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 11:23 AM BST
Remember we are talking about one of the best horsemen on planet earth (allegedly)……ffs
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 11:24 AM BST
Can any of you list all these alleged apologies apart from about feeling sorry for the punters?
Report HappyHibby August 24, 2024 11:26 AM BST
formoftheace Aug 24 11:23

Remember we are talking about one of the best horsemen on planet earth (allegedly)……ffs

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lovely hands ?
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 11:28 AM BST
You should know he preferred the Choirboy, said so when he came out, remember?
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 11:28 AM BST
Snatched up close home caught near finish…….the worst dirty comment in racing for all fodder….tbh
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 11:31 AM BST
Just remind everyone about your tipping record and your sisters jeep Quixall?
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 11:31 AM BST
Never understood the lovely hands thing hibb….

Young gypsy boys galloping bare back through the streets in Ireland with a rope for a bridle…
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 11:33 AM BST
CagliariG 24 Aug 24 11:31 
Just remind everyone about your tipping record and your sisters jeep Quixall?

What does that have to do with this argument ? Ffs
Report HappyHibby August 24, 2024 11:34 AM BST
it's the sort of thing folk say to make it sound like they know what they are talking about aceform...

if you listen carefully the expert pundits do it constantly...

'nice page' is another one when referring to it's breeding...

'on the leg' when they see a young horse who has plenty of daylight underneath them...

it's a good soundbite aceform...

totally meaningless tho.
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 11:35 AM BST
Credibility Quixall, you have none even with using your alter ego!! hth
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 11:41 AM BST
They have no respect for the fodder hibb…..ribs a good sign it could be fit enough…..

4 on the weight cloth means it’s number 4 ffs I still struggle to believe that one…..Hamilton Park years back……
Report HappyHibby August 24, 2024 11:45 AM BST
it's the slobbering that gets me riled tbh aceform...

journeyman jockey Dougie Costello rode a double at Newmarket yesterday...

is anyone telling me 'world class' William Buick is a far better jockey than DC ?

it's amazing how all these 'world class' jockeys are riding world class horses...

give Dougie Costello the chances Buick or Moore gets then they'd all be saying Dougie Costello is a world class jockey...

it's constant backfitting just to suck up to connections imv.
Report HappyHibby August 24, 2024 11:46 AM BST
if Buick rode all of Costello's horses...

and Costello rode all of Buick's horses...

the expert pundits (to a man/woman) would say Costello is world class and Buick is a journeyman...

can't prove it obviously but that is my opinion.
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 11:48 AM BST
I got slammed for similar comments hibb but it’s fact…..lots of good horsemen out there who don’t suit the gravy….
Report GLASGOWCALLING August 24, 2024 11:49 AM BST
Can any of you list all these alleged apologies apart from about feeling sorry for the punters?


  Starts off apologising to everyone he has ever met, listen to the first 10 seconds, surprised you missed it tbh.

https://www.skysports.com/racing/video/19978/13200114/james-doyle-jockey-com...
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 11:53 AM BST
And why does that prove he did something wrong in your words GC?
Report HappyHibby August 24, 2024 11:55 AM BST
it's true aceform...

the difference between a 'world class' jockey and a journeyman jockey is that the 'world class' one gets the opportunities to ride big winners...

the journeyman one doesn't (or very rarely does).
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 11:57 AM BST
Quixall/Hibby do you ever do anything apart from 24/7 on here?
Report HappyHibby August 24, 2024 11:58 AM BST
same with trainers aceform...

a stable full of primely bred young horses...

a stable full of 0-50 handicappers...

which one has the better chance of being called 'a top class trainer' ?

LaughLaughLaugh
Report acey deucy August 24, 2024 12:01 PM BST
Believe it or not there as such things as Bad Trainers and Good Tainers guys i know i worked for both.Wink
Report GLASGOWCALLING August 24, 2024 12:02 PM BST
And why does that prove he did something wrong in your words GC?


  So he starts the interview by saying SORRY to Punters, Connections, Sheik, and  Roger Varian, Why would he say that if he had done nothing wrong. ??  But as he never apologised ( in your head ) all is well.
Report acey deucy August 24, 2024 12:04 PM BST
I worked for one Trainer who Trained from his bedroom window...He would shout out what to do with the horses and hardly come out and watch them ffs.LaughLaugh
Report swiftynifty August 24, 2024 12:05 PM BST
Windsor not the track to be playing silly buggers
Report acey deucy August 24, 2024 12:05 PM BST
Hard to believe he is still Training now.Laugh
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 12:06 PM BST
Quite simply because he did not win the race GC, doesn't mean he did anything wrong as those with reasonable eyesight could see, including the stewards. Or are you also denying the visual evidence?
Report HappyHibby August 24, 2024 12:11 PM BST
if someone like Ian Jardine was given the same ammunition as someone like say Roger Varian...

would Jardine do better than Varian ?

who knows...

difference is one gets the  chance and the other doesn't...

even tho Jardine has won big races with his limited resources.
Report swiftynifty August 24, 2024 12:11 PM BST
The horse was green but he started to ease off then the horse jinked, I think Doyle was shocked he got away with it. He should have got 28 days although in the current climate he'd be free in 10.
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 12:12 PM BST
Specsavers beckons swifty!!
Report GLASGOWCALLING August 24, 2024 12:13 PM BST
Hard to believe that any Jockey would stand in front of a camera and apologise to all those people

if they had done nothing wrong. Of course he knew he had Phucked up.
Report swiftynifty August 24, 2024 12:14 PM BST
Cagliari, RP stills! That's the future.
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 12:16 PM BST
That is the facts swifty, if you think not explain why?
Report GLASGOWCALLING August 24, 2024 12:16 PM BST
... Only the Gin sodden Stewards, and someone who is never wrong saw a different race.!
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 12:20 PM BST
Is that a poll you did on here GC or just an inability to admit the evidence is plain to see? As I say, god help anybody getting a jury made of this Forum in a Court!!
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 24, 2024 1:39 PM BST
Doyle had already dropped his hands before horse jinked.  He should be banned no doubt about it.

Tobymugsgaryliar..are ewe fckn blind by any chance?
Report Hayden August 24, 2024 2:45 PM BST
Mr Magoo just texted me , said stewards made the right decision.
Report HappyHibby August 24, 2024 5:50 PM BST
CHIEF STEWARD at Windsor tonight is...

Steve Drowne (ex-jockey).
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 5:55 PM BST
Is that significant for the brain dead sheep Quixall or would you prefer an ex road sweeper like you and a few broken jockeys to keep you happy?
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 6:39 PM BST
Ex Lingfield rider who got a break from Roger Charlton winning on a Juddmonte point and shoot,the media decided he was the new Risen….

Like the bad tempered northern one (imo) who won a group 3 then became an @tgasm for the media…in the meantime others wait on the break….
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 6:44 PM BST
You cannot even respond with a reasonable or coherent answer Quixall, all imo... or imv... etc ? You say best when you say nothing at all, ffs... that could be a song?

imv.. imo...?
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 6:45 PM BST
High percentage of riders are overated in my opinion……
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 6:48 PM BST
Everybody would be overrated by your standards Quixall, apart from Denzil few looked after their broom like you!!!

imv... tbf...
Report HappyHibby August 24, 2024 6:49 PM BST
good to see Fallon and Bass riding right out to the line in that ding-donger aceform ?
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 6:50 PM BST
What kind of answer is there in this scenario ffs….he was wrong he was right….

He was wrong Einstein ffs
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 6:51 PM BST
Yep..no quarter given hibb up towards the line no showboating…..
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 6:52 PM BST
No worries in your world, you have two opinions and can never be wrong!!!
Report leif August 24, 2024 6:56 PM BST
Excited
keeps it consistent in the main.
never forgets to name the other in his posts.
gets a bit elipsis confused though.
disturbed ffs imv
Report HappyHibby August 24, 2024 6:56 PM BST
same in the previous race tbh aceform...

Turner/Fallon and Osborne.
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 6:57 PM BST
That said do you both agree your sister was a hero in Belfast and was a victim or a survivor , the latter being in vogue tbh...tbf...imv..?
Report formoftheace August 24, 2024 6:57 PM BST
They are aware of the stigma hibb,won’t change tho…..
Report CagliariG August 24, 2024 7:00 PM BST
Nothing against anyone with the stigma tbh... tbf..., slight issue with using it to try and con others when obviously aware though!!
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 24, 2024 9:37 PM BST
tobymugs
So just to clarify, you layed COT for 155k or more but came out with an 11k profit.
You own a betting system valued at 600k +
but finished in last place in a Div2 tipping comp.
and caught 2 huge tuna that coincidentally the same fish were caught by someone else.

pmsl...wat an absolute and utter fckn tatey ewe are.
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