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donb
16 Aug 24 14:29
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any else had a demand for bank and pay statements.  I had had an account for a decade and they decided to treat my like some sort of criminal.  Waiting until they suspend my account but I will not comply.
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Report jamee1 August 16, 2024 2:57 PM BST
Is this a serious post? If so then where have you been for the last three years? Typical practice now for any betting account in the UK once you hit a certain deposit/spend threshold.
Report freddiewilliams August 16, 2024 5:37 PM BST
Comply or dye
Report the old nanny ;-) August 16, 2024 5:42 PM BST
Spot on Quite a few accounts gone, due to none Compliance
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 16, 2024 5:58 PM BST
Seems to be the Case
Report barstool August 16, 2024 6:26 PM BST
Can you think of any other firms who wont let their customers spend their own money?

Must be a "big" agenda to stop animals being used for sport.
Report freddiewilliams August 16, 2024 6:27 PM BST
Loads on ere put on a tonne a month
Report freddiewilliams August 16, 2024 6:28 PM BST
Until proof supplied
Report freddiewilliams August 16, 2024 6:30 PM BST
Thought it had slowed down. Did u have big losses lately. Or did u deposit quickly several times
Report longbridge August 16, 2024 6:57 PM BST
@barstool

"Can you think of any other firms who wont let their customers spend their own money?"

Can you think of any other industry (other than financial services) that gets hit by a regulator if their customers go broke buying their products?  No-one goes after Gucci or Porsche if someone spends all they have (and perhaps what they don't have) on their products, but they go after gambling firms.

"Must be a "big" agenda to stop animals being used for sport."

Can't see it being that - racing is a dying small fraction of the gambling market, and people on the Football forum have been equally vociferous about affordability/AML checks.
Report longbridge August 16, 2024 6:57 PM BST
@barstool

"Can you think of any other firms who wont let their customers spend their own money?"

Can you think of any other industry (other than financial services) that gets hit by a regulator if their customers go broke buying their products?  No-one goes after Gucci or Porsche if someone spends all they have (and perhaps what they don't have) on their products, but they go after gambling firms.

"Must be a "big" agenda to stop animals being used for sport."

Can't see it being that - racing is a dying small fraction of the gambling market, and people on the Football forum have been equally vociferous about affordability/AML checks.
Report freddiewilliams August 16, 2024 7:02 PM BST
Fook all to.do with animals. Cricket and footy. Are biggest in ere
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 16, 2024 8:52 PM BST
jussed dont loose.
Report Cider August 16, 2024 9:03 PM BST
It's most definitely ideological (from the regulator, betting firms are the proxy but they can use it to advantage). They'll be coming after anyone with capital over the next few years anyway!
Report racing6699 August 16, 2024 9:04 PM BST
Im amazed the approach wasnt to tax it first rather than to effectively restrict it.
Report aberdonia August 16, 2024 9:14 PM BST
its not betfair that is the issue....its government...im stuck on 500 per month on here, which is why i dont use it much, although the amount does increase as you win, but resets every month.

on **** in on 2 grand a day....for deposit.
Report aberdonia August 16, 2024 9:15 PM BST
bet daq
Report aberdonia August 16, 2024 9:17 PM BST
it is a bit odd, that bet daq decided on 2 grand per day maximum deposit, irrespective of profit/loss whilst betfair decided on 500 per month, with that amount going up if you win within the monthly period.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 16, 2024 10:16 PM BST
aye im 2k max daq.
Report The Knight August 16, 2024 11:33 PM BST
These checks are so wrong....but why do so many object to complying? Credit checks are done without anyone knowing anyway.

I have never been asked by any bookie etc, but I do not care who sees my financial details and if everyone that was asked sent in the information, the firms would soon be overloaded with work and become pretty tired of the idea.
Report stu August 17, 2024 12:08 AM BST
As discussed previously about ACs, I think it's the intrusive nature of knowing every transaction or purchase you might make - why should anyone need to know that much detail? Most wouldn't even allow a close friend to know that much about their activity in their life, let alone a faceless employee in some company.
Report stu August 17, 2024 12:11 AM BST
The obvious joke is about a 'dodgy' looking transaction on a personal level (e.g. Porn or something similar), but even without that level of sensitivity, just knowing how someone operates daily in their transactions such as business or pleasure is wrong for all levels of privacy.
Report the old nanny ;-) August 17, 2024 3:12 AM BST
They might be looking for a few strange Deposits into the account followed by deposits into Betfair ,and vice versa

Not sure they are interested in Bishop Bangers , plenty of them on betfair .

I take your point Stu , but failure to disclose may eventually lead to a Dear John email  for some .
Report Cider August 17, 2024 6:52 AM BST
An ethical compass one might call it, there's no way on God's green earth anyone is seeing my private day to day banking information so that I can spend my own money. And if that means I need to sacrifice a hobby, so be it. Absolutely no issues providing that information to a lender giving me hundreds of thousands of capital in order to purchase a property. So that I can deposit my own money to have a bet? No thanks, on yer bike.
Report impossible123 August 17, 2024 12:45 PM BST
I do not mind if bookies recourse credit agencies but I'll never let a bookie see my bank statement or anything relating to my financials. The bookies can access credit agencies, but not my bank statements. I do not trust the bookies or any entity associated or employed directly by bookies; horseracing is not that important or valuable to me.
Report stu August 17, 2024 1:21 PM BST
There's also an utter irony that at the same time the GDPR regulations are trying to ram 'privacy' down our necks in many other areas of work and business!

So protect privacy vehemently for many useless bits of information that people might use daily, but please show some nameless person all of your daily activity in minute detail! Crazy
Report freddiewilliams August 18, 2024 2:41 PM BST
Weatherbys wanting source of income for horse syndicate owners
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! August 18, 2024 2:56 PM BST
REALLY???
Laugh
Report freddiewilliams August 18, 2024 3:01 PM BST
In the rp
Report Cider August 18, 2024 3:11 PM BST
Nick Luck appeared to be defending it today on rtv (when he wasn't [bizarrely] bullying Liz Truss).
Report sparrow August 18, 2024 3:38 PM BST
How awful.....bullying Liz Truss, your hero....
Report dave1357 August 18, 2024 3:47 PM BST
freddiewilliams • August 18, 2024 2:41 PM BST
Weatherbys wanting source of income for horse syndicate owners


I would guess this is anti-moneylaundering/proceeds of crime, rather than affordability.
Report Cider August 18, 2024 4:06 PM BST
How awful.....bullying Liz Truss, your hero....


Completely bizarre. Truss has nothing to do with horse racing and not even been in office for nearly two years. Luck was drooling over the fact that two tier's wife was at a race course in a private capacity when nobody would have had a clue about who she was or if she was there (or care). Yet he seemed perturbed about Truss being on a racecourse. He should try leaving his Labour fanboydom at the studio door.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 18, 2024 4:10 PM BST
Cider is an idiot, a racist and a fascist.
Report Cider August 18, 2024 4:11 PM BST
Stalker alert !
Report duffy August 18, 2024 4:41 PM BST
Lucky being a Labour fanboy just doesn't ring true somehowGrin
Report mitolo August 18, 2024 4:43 PM BST
a fascist indeed. a word wildly over-used and devalued by it and actually offensive

in reality people like laughable mean 'someone i dont like'. and therefore must be a fascist and probably a racist
Report Hayden August 18, 2024 4:47 PM BST
"It is very political and riven with division, often to its detriment, but it does have a canny survival instinct. Sometimes I think it's that simmering tension that allows it to survive. Racing is a bit like a less unpleasant version of the Tory party."

https://www.racingpost.com/news/features/interviews/nick-luck-i-said-then-i-could-die-a-happy-man.-and-weeks-later-i-nearly-did-asqz91R99jOM/
Report sparrow August 18, 2024 4:55 PM BST
mitolo 18 Aug 24 16:43 
a fascist indeed. a word wildly over-used and devalued by it and actually offensive




Not overused at Dalston when I attended in 1962.
Report Cider August 18, 2024 5:17 PM BST
Luck is typical raging champagne socialist in my view. Quite happy to gobble up all the arab money, but will push all the high status virtues.
Report mitolo August 18, 2024 5:25 PM BST
irrelevant sparrer. calling someone a fascist is of course, fascistic in itself without good evidence

do you think its over-used or not? crashing bore would have done the job
Report Cider August 18, 2024 5:30 PM BST
It's just the liberalists parrots, mitolo. They've all got a wind up mechanism, like a darker version of the ballerinas on a jewellery box.
Report sparrow August 18, 2024 5:32 PM BST
It might be nowadays mitolo,  but not when I was talking about.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRS4NR_BZ1w
Report CagliariG August 18, 2024 5:39 PM BST
Nothing new sparrow, the first black guy I arrested called me a Scottish Fascist and then claimed the arrest was racist, the magistrate agreed and gave him four months for the comments. Quite funny at a time when the force was lambasted for blacking up a couple of CID guys with wigs as we could not find 2 black guys to do an ID line up!!!

The Liz Truss fans were behind the curve when she resigned as they never appeared here claiming to have bet on the outcome, even when the Forum knew before most ministers and way before any news media?
Report mitolo August 18, 2024 6:28 PM BST
indeed sparrer, but its not what i was on about

ive been called fascist several times over the years. last time it was by a socialist worker seller for querying why he wore a unite union and cuba solidarity badge as unions are illegal in cuba and setting one up would land you in jail, possibly for a long time

as i walked off his mrs. called me a fascist. wish it had been him. i had to content meself with calling her a stupid cow
Report sparrow August 18, 2024 6:33 PM BST
Did you take a look at that video I posted, mitolo?
Report mitolo August 18, 2024 6:45 PM BST
hands up, no

i will now youve embarrassed me
Report aberdonia August 18, 2024 7:28 PM BST
Friti Hay contributed a big wedge to that daft bint, Truss, leadership bid, hard pressed to find a dafter MP than Truss, particularly disappointed to realise that Jim Hay is a british tory.....Unlike that other great scottish owner, Dr Jim Walker, a rampant supporter of scots independence, and a top man too.

A wee titbit, Mark Johnston is also a big scots indy man...All the best folk are.Grin

Tories are inept fools, they have governed England for most of the last 200 years, and made a great mess, their greatest talent being, making poor white english folk believe their policies have nothing to do with their pish lifes, its all down to those immigrants who work 3 jobs.. As for fascism, is socialism for the jealous, workshy indigenous population...lol
Report Cider August 18, 2024 8:11 PM BST
Doesn't matter what Luck thinks of Truss does it. Feck all to do with racing tv. It seems there's no escape from people peddling their political views now if they think they will gain credibility with their back slapping circle.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 18, 2024 9:04 PM BST
Clearly doesn't matter to an idiot racist fascist.
Report mitolo August 18, 2024 9:13 PM BST
you have to laff

labelling someone a fascist is quite an accusation, and surely must be be based on evidence rather than hating someone who doesnt share yours, which is a bit fascist, is it not?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 18, 2024 9:18 PM BST
Lol, that's quite an accusation for you then.

Why not find a telephone box and have an argument with yourself there
rather than giving us a laugh at your inadequacy
Report mitolo August 18, 2024 9:52 PM BST
you aint laughing. you are hating

all my local phone boxes are full of plants, which is rather nice. maybe you are one of them?

im inadequate in the cash department, thats all. and you know it
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