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MJK
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https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/straffan-horse-abattoir-expected-to-be-the-focus-of-rte-special-report/
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Report bluebook June 6, 2024 9:17 AM BST
Not good. Sad
Report MJK June 6, 2024 8:16 PM BST
https://www.racingpost.com/news/ireland/broadcaster-puts-questions-to-irish-...
Report impossible123 June 7, 2024 11:17 AM BST
I thought Ireland is the home for horseracing and welfare of racehorses. How very wrong. Shut it down, if true.
Report DIE LINKE June 7, 2024 12:13 PM BST
Great name for a nag
Report MJK June 12, 2024 11:02 AM BST
9.35 RTE1 tonight. Previewing it on the news this morning 'stomach churning' was one description of it. Also big investigation into thousands of missing racehorses.
Report formoftheace June 12, 2024 11:58 AM BST
Commodities nothing else,like the bad tempered farmer they ain’t all lovey dovey like you see on the telly…..

No cash maker no use….
Report Vubiant June 12, 2024 12:34 PM BST
Overproduction needs to be addressed and rectified.
I know nothing about the inner workings of the industry but always wondered what happened to all those horses who from early on could be seen to be too slow on the flat or to even get placed over jumps -and,frankly,  I did suspect the worst.
Report formoftheace June 12, 2024 12:56 PM BST
Quite a lot end up in Yorkshire and possibly in the fuel tank of vehicles,bio mixed with other stuff diesel etc….

Bio fuel 20/80……20/70…..
Report formoftheace June 12, 2024 1:01 PM BST
B20…..B30…….not so efficient in sub zero…….


But that is what happens to a lot of animals…..churned and cooked at high temperatures to release the oils and fat….
Report formoftheace June 12, 2024 1:03 PM BST
Google Tallow……
Report slickster June 12, 2024 1:57 PM BST
This will not be a good watch. Will just show more human greed and nastiness. Literally anything for money.
Report formoftheace June 12, 2024 2:00 PM BST
Red Rum about the only one with a headstone….
Report MJK June 12, 2024 2:13 PM BST
Equine sports in Ireland, including bloodstock, is worth over 3 billion to the economy. Therein lies the reason for the blinkered approach from the authorities. As much as we like horse racing it's got to be said from most involved in the sport are of the 'we never have enough' when it comes to money.
Report casemoney June 12, 2024 7:35 PM BST
same craic over here would not Surprise me

ITV GRAVY MOB and their NATIONAL FENCES and how great it all is

Meanwhile slow horses shifted to the Slaughter house
Report Kriskin June 12, 2024 8:05 PM BST
Someone quoted on here previous the stat of how many race horses do NOT finish in the top 3 in a race during their lifetime racing - It was very high. What happens to those slow horses?
Report swiftynifty June 12, 2024 8:18 PM BST
you eat them in your Big Mac but that's another programme
Report MJK June 13, 2024 6:22 AM BST
Difficult viewing. A complete overhaul is clearly required.
Report MJK June 13, 2024 10:59 AM BST
https://www.thejournal.ie/hri-rte-investigates-shannonside-foods-horse-abatt...
Report formoftheace June 13, 2024 11:21 AM BST
Don’t watch the Australian outback ones you will be screaming for the rifle to backfire…..
Report leif June 13, 2024 1:19 PM BST
The video evidence focused on the lairage shed where animals are held in the days leading up to their slaughter and viewers could see horses being repeatedly whipped and struck with long lengths of plastic piping, while one horse is seen struggling for hours and falling before a member of staff attempts to use a pitchfork to force it upright. It eventually died after a harrowing ordeal and was dragged out of the shed the following day.

Shannonside Foods Limited, the Straffan-based abattoir featured in the programme, has also said that any allegation of an equine being mistreated 'will be fully investigated by the company.'

Hope there will be an instant dismissal or twoPlain
Report ekbalko June 13, 2024 4:29 PM BST
Sad to see the ex Mark Johnston horse (Deodora) being whacked around by the Gorilla before being slaughtered ffs.
Report formoftheace June 13, 2024 5:50 PM BST
Any comments from ‘big owner’s or trainers’ probably not…..

The anti brigade will love this…
Report impossible123 June 13, 2024 7:31 PM BST
I think they ought to ban all horseracing in Ireland for 3 months whilst a thorough and detailed investigation is carried on. This is an appalling treatment of racehorses. One does not find this barbaric practice in a 3rd world country.

Shame on you Ireland!
Report sageform June 13, 2024 7:47 PM BST
In Ireland racing and horse breeding are part of Agriculture. No excuse for cruelty but it is a very different mindset from treating horses as pets.
Report impossible123 June 13, 2024 8:03 PM BST
Agriculture? I hope the carcases from horses are not used as fertilisers in food production for human consumption.
Report formoftheace June 13, 2024 8:25 PM BST
Not so long ago in the Uk they used human waste for fertilisers,injecting into the soil before ploughing,the farmers got it free of charge because it was easier for the sewage plants….
Report formoftheace June 13, 2024 8:27 PM BST
Obviously from the treatment plant but still the thought of it….
Report sageform June 13, 2024 8:34 PM BST
In many countries it is still legal to use meat and bone meal to feed livestock but not in UK.
Report impossible123 June 13, 2024 8:37 PM BST
The pangasius/basa (fish) imported lived on a diet of human poo in Thailand and Vietnam. This is an affordable alternative to salmon/trout/bass/mackerel. Consumer beware!
Report formoftheace June 13, 2024 8:39 PM BST
I think M&S stamped it out years back……
Report swiftynifty June 13, 2024 8:44 PM BST
i remember the spanish lettuces, fed with sewage
Report firstimevisor June 13, 2024 9:16 PM BST
Some of you need to get a grip here, particularly Impossible, calling for a ban on Irish horse racing ffs.

The people running the abatoir should probably be jailed as should those issuing false passports and using false microchips on horses. These were individuals profiteering from endangering the food chain.

I did not see much evidence of the horse racing industry sanctioning or being directly involved in any of this.
Report themightymac June 13, 2024 9:25 PM BST
Horse meat is on the menu in France, Belgium, Spain and Italy but to name a few. Many poor racehorses and horses in general sadly ended up in abattoirs in those countries. In some EU countries they put nets up to catch songbirds and they end up in restaurants. In some Asian countries they eat dogs.

Sadly, many many countries are not animal lovers like us Brits.
Report themightymac June 13, 2024 9:31 PM BST
and in some many have no choice in order just to survive. It`s an unfair world.
Report Somerset Sam June 13, 2024 9:32 PM BST
I've often wondered what happened to all of the fillies from Coolmore, I can't remember many, if any, going to public auction and yet they can't / dont accommodate everyone of them for breeding purposes either.

I doubt they're kept as pets, so it definitely makes you think.
Report MJK June 14, 2024 12:01 AM BST

Jun 13, 2024 -- 7:31PM, impossible123 wrote:


I think they ought to ban all horseracing in Ireland for 3 months whilst a thorough and detailed investigation is carried on. This is an appalling treatment of racehorses. One does not find this barbaric practice in a 3rd world country. Shame on you Ireland!


Unfortunately seeing you are an anti Irish bigot you're opinion on this matter means nothing

Report know all June 14, 2024 12:34 AM BST
Nearly all the prawns from India / Asia in most of the supermarkets are reared in a pond in a field, never seen the sea, look on the back of the packet for where they are from, only the really expensive stuff is from the sea and it will say so
Report formoftheace June 14, 2024 7:53 AM BST
Most of the slaughter house workers are thick scumbags,cold as ice toward the animal,in my opinion…
Report impossible123 June 14, 2024 10:58 AM BST
"Most of the slaughter house workers are thick scumbags, cold as ice toward the animal, in my opinion"
Perhaps regular long term losers at punting.

"Nearly all prawns from India/Asia are reared in a pond in a field.."
Yes, hence they're much cheaper and affordable, but the mercury level is phenomenally high. However, those from Canada have been caught in oceans.
Report freddiewilliams June 14, 2024 6:05 PM BST
Wait till they ban bookies adverts from dawn to dusk in Ireland.
Report Somerset Sam June 16, 2024 12:28 AM BST
Just watched the programme on playback and this does the horse racing industry no favours whatsoever. The people who work in that abattoir are downright cruel to these animals.

As Royal Ascot fast approaches, we'd all do well to remember what is happening to the horses who don't reach these dizzy heights.

I'm beginning to have grave concerns for where this sport is actually going, caused in no small part by the registered owners and licenced trainers who choose to allow their cast offs to enter this process of cruelty and neglect, the poor horses involved are only there because they've suffered injury or don't run quick enough.

It's most definitely an undignified, barbaric end for the poor animals we all claim to love.
Report swiftynifty June 16, 2024 1:40 AM BST
Be interesting to hear from a few owners on here.
Report Somerset Sam June 16, 2024 7:59 AM BST

Jun 16, 2024 -- 12:28AM, Somerset Sam wrote:


Just watched the programme on playback and this does the horse racing industry no favours whatsoever. The people who work in that abattoir are downright cruel to these animals.As Royal Ascot fast approaches, we'd all do well to remember what is happening to the horses who don't reach these dizzy heights.I'm beginning to have grave concerns for where this sport is actually going, caused in no small part by the registered owners and licenced trainers who choose to allow their cast offs to enter this process of cruelty and neglect, the poor horses involved are only there because they've suffered injury or don't run quick enough. It's most definitely an undignified, barbaric end for the poor animals we all claim to love.


I'd also say owners and trainers will be quick to justify where horses owned or trained by them will end up suffering this kind of treatment by saying we passed them to a dealer / agent.

The RTE programme states quite early on that for a couple of hundred quid the horse can be peacefully and humanely euthanized.

Take responsibility for your animals and don't let them go through processes we saw in this programme.

Surely thats the least owners and trainers can do for the animals they tell the world and anybody that'll listen, are so important to them. Without the animals there is no sport remember.

Report formoftheace June 16, 2024 8:02 AM BST
Only people in racing who care are the young stable girls…..to the rest,commodities !

Fact….
Report Somerset Sam June 16, 2024 8:35 AM BST

Jun 16, 2024 -- 8:02AM, formoftheace wrote:


Only people in racing who care are the young stable girls…..to the rest,commodities !Fact….


Sadly I'm thinking this more and more to be honest.

Yards with 150+ horses can't have the same interaction with each individual horse as a yard with 10 horses, I get that.

The cruelty and suffering seen cannot be excused in anyway however. Does it make me look at the industry differently? It probably does, and that's somebody with over 40 years of following the sport.

Report formoftheace June 16, 2024 9:09 AM BST
One of the the horses in the sordid video surrounded by thickos (imo) was trained in North Yorkshire,a Beverly winner…..(allegedly)…..
Report formoftheace June 16, 2024 9:14 AM BST
Remember a well known’top’ rider at Brighton with a piece of wood regarding a loose dog on the course,gave the impression it would hit the dog….

Much the same outlook towards the horse….imo..

Gypsy type galloping through streets bareback,horses known to have collapsed and died in the gutter…

All this pat down the neck good boy / girly P……
Report MJK June 16, 2024 9:41 AM BST

Jun 16, 2024 -- 9:09AM, formoftheace wrote:


One of the the horses in the sordid video surrounded by thickos (imo) was trained in North Yorkshire,a Beverly winner…..(allegedly)…..


https://www.racingpost.com/profile/horse/899748/deodoro/form

Report MJK June 16, 2024 9:48 AM BST
https://www.thejournal.ie/horse-abattoir-at-centre-of-welfare-abuses-investi...
Report formoftheace June 16, 2024 10:23 AM BST
Top trainer MJK……his comments would be interesting……doubt the owner would be interested……
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