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As you say wonder, even Frankie or Lester would not have won on the rides he is being slated for. BTW Quixall has blamed nearly every jockey beaten on his selections, a huge list tbf!!
thats not the ?
the ? is would frankie,lester,fallon, moore been beaten in musidora and middle on 2 short price favs after a 100 yds, neither horse ever given a chance to run their race
the ? is would frankie,lester,fallon, moore been beaten in musidora and middle on 2 short price favs after a 100 yds, neither horse ever given a chance to run their race
1st time poster • May 16, 2024 4:21 PM BST
thats not the ?
the ? is would frankie,lester,fallon, moore been beaten in musidora and middle on 2 short price favs after a 100 yds, neither horse ever given a chance to run their race
musidora filly that looked so straightforward 10 days earlier under KS
and was hanging right immediately out of the stalls yesterday
do you realise how ridiculous your post is?
thats not the ?
the ? is would frankie,lester,fallon, moore been beaten in musidora and middle on 2 short price favs after a 100 yds, neither horse ever given a chance to run their race
musidora filly that looked so straightforward 10 days earlier under KS
and was hanging right immediately out of the stalls yesterday
do you realise how ridiculous your post is?
its so obvious the filly recoiled from the newmarket effort, quick run after reapparance bounce factor
beaten half the straight continually hanging
jockey bashing shows up a complete lack of understanding
beaten half the straight continually hanging
jockey bashing shows up a complete lack of understanding
The answer for 1st TP is yes they probably would have been or maybe less!!!
on a seperate point
june through sept historically been gosden best time of year
slow up to may & then some tail off from oct onwards
large data sample
so remember that if you want to improve
june through sept historically been gosden best time of year
slow up to may & then some tail off from oct onwards
large data sample
so remember that if you want to improve
Gosden must be a poor judge of jockeys tbf, being a newcomer to the game, wtf would have guessed at Luke Morris on an Arc winner for him ffs and yes the owner input but really, is he daft?
My argument is he is not a grade 1 rider…..certain to win on a few like most..
There are a few grade 1 riders…..this one in question ain’t one of them……
Gosden is missing Frankie
never been Rabs biggest fan but the way he's riding this season Gosden is missing Havlin ...
never been Rabs biggest fan but the way he's riding this season Gosden is missing Havlin ...
Marquand could step into the job……poor bunch compared to what it was..
1.01 for the P45…..
1.01 for the P45…..
Just remind everyone about your record and qualifications then Quixall V all jockeys and Mr Gosden IYO of course?
Never bottled anything Quixall, I would have been at Perth, Newcastle or Munich if you or your fellow con men had concurred, still can be if you want to set it up? Free £10K for you if bringing Hibby?
Never bottled anything Quixall, I would have been at Perth, Newcastle or Munich if you or your fellow con men had concurred, still can be if you want to set it up? Free £10K for you if bringing Hibby?
May 16, 2024 -- 5:47PM, sparrow wrote:
Nobody blaming Gosden for the quick reappearance?
exactly sparrow
Judge this Quixall, a 7lb claimer on a horse 4lb well in, Mr Alex Chadwick for over a monkey next at Fontwell?
A real , provable bet only mentioned to highlight that neither you or your fellow Sociopaths ever provide proof of a pre race bet unless post race edited and obviously faked?
Hope it helps you tbh as you do need some!!!!
A real , provable bet only mentioned to highlight that neither you or your fellow Sociopaths ever provide proof of a pre race bet unless post race edited and obviously faked?
Hope it helps you tbh as you do need some!!!!
Three bets actually Quixall £400 @ 7/5 PP returned £960 and £90 @ 6/4 b365 + £14.01 @ 11/8 returned £33.28!!!
No copy and paste here, just photo of the bet on computer screen but not an issue if you are doing a "Rico", how much for SSAFA if I post them?
No copy and paste here, just photo of the bet on computer screen but not an issue if you are doing a "Rico", how much for SSAFA if I post them?
I was shocked that you could get £90 on with them.
So was I tbh but there are ways and means, to get it in one bet was a surprise but that was all they would allow hence the other bet, have taken the photos for Quixall et al if they want a bet?
Not sure this is a freebie Quixall but my cousin in Philly said Paco should win on Ego Man to suit you!!
The Con well backed and Ego drfts like a barge and Con scoots up lol... Gosdens horses are bang outa form and as Wonder says later in season hit form..id need another 2 points on anything KS is riding all the same... woeful... Oisin should be up... JG is nutz..
Maybe JG left it to Thady to make a decision. A lesson learnt
Not jockey bashing, trainer bashing as well. Racing is a team effort so you can't criticise the jockey in isolation. If horses misbehave on course, it is likely to be down to the home gallops.
Jockey and trainer bashing…..ffs
Gosden is grade one in the training ranks
Shoemark is not grade one in the jockey ranks……
Wait until I speak to my bin probably get more sense…..
I did say at the start of the season he wasn’t the proper person for the grade 1 yard…….ffs
Gosden is grade one in the training ranks
Shoemark is not grade one in the jockey ranks……
Wait until I speak to my bin probably get more sense…..
I did say at the start of the season he wasn’t the proper person for the grade 1 yard…….ffs
sageform 17 May 24 07:19
Not jockey bashing, trainer bashing as well. Racing is a team effort so you can't criticise the jockey in isolation. If horses misbehave on course, it is likely to be down to the home gallops.
They don't like to blame trainers on here for anything it will always be the fault of jockeys or stall handlers. They prefer to doff their caps.
Not jockey bashing, trainer bashing as well. Racing is a team effort so you can't criticise the jockey in isolation. If horses misbehave on course, it is likely to be down to the home gallops.
They don't like to blame trainers on here for anything it will always be the fault of jockeys or stall handlers. They prefer to doff their caps.
Flat racing this time of the year always good for a laugh. Got to give Gosden his due, knows how to get one ready 
Maybe just coincidence but does seem to have a knack of getting the Gosden fancies beaten
Maybe just coincidence but does seem to have a knack of getting the Gosden fancies beaten
Maybe just coincidence but does seem to have a knack of getting the Gosden fancies beaten
Was expecting Goodwood Odyssey to be ridden cold as in all of his previous races but he rushed him right up behind a fierce gallop.
World Pool had it nearer the mark that UK punters. Both of the first 2 in the market were 7/2 on there. I sat on my hands so no damage. Can't explain the winner but second and third had fitness on their side.
havent commented on this Shoemark thread as Gosdens horses not in great form overall
but he was all over the track on fav there, and too far back - you cant give Group horses
lengths of a start, mind you most of the other jockeys just as bad!
but he was all over the track on fav there, and too far back - you cant give Group horses
lengths of a start, mind you most of the other jockeys just as bad!
Audience was still on the snaff 3-4 lengths up when everything else was under the pump. How does that happen if they gave him too much of a head start?
Yes obviously horses can be allowed too easy a lead, but that ends up with lots of fast finishing closers. Only one of them got anywhere near, and the winner wasn't hard ridden at any point.
Yes obviously horses can be allowed too easy a lead, but that ends up with lots of fast finishing closers. Only one of them got anywhere near, and the winner wasn't hard ridden at any point.
May 18, 2024 -- 3:50PM, formoftheace wrote:
Very poor out the gate….
never seen her run before imo
Quixall showing his ignorance yet again, when will he learn? ( FFS lol)!!
Had you bothered to listen to JG in the run up to the race you would have known the plan Quixall and if you had listened Post Race you would have been even wiser, ironic your "workrider in silks" won the race?
Had you bothered to listen to JG in the run up to the race you would have known the plan Quixall and if you had listened Post Race you would have been even wiser, ironic your "workrider in silks" won the race?
Plenty of people thought the front two in the Lockinge betting were taking too much of the market and Inspiral ended a short priced favourite by default as confidence in the market rival collapsed.
From Gosden'e pre race remarks to Chapman (sic) "You don't want your runners in a little race of their own", I gather Shoemark was under instructions to tack over to the main body while Authorised ploughed a lone furrow.
All in all, I pretty rubbish Gp1 though. Older milers are a weak division.
From Gosden'e pre race remarks to Chapman (sic) "You don't want your runners in a little race of their own", I gather Shoemark was under instructions to tack over to the main body while Authorised ploughed a lone furrow.
All in all, I pretty rubbish Gp1 though. Older milers are a weak division.
Audience is borderline uncontrollable and Inspiral tends to be sluggish out of the gate, so he would have been isolated anyway if keeping to the part of the track where he was drawn. It wasn't winning any group 1 race today anyway, whether it has peaked and had enough, or it was a stepping stone for Ascot remains to be seen.
JG said before today that being drawn away from the pace was no good to Inspiral and indicated she might be switched across the track to where the pace was, today he said Audience would more or less do his own thing as he was not sure whether he would keep pace with Big Rock. Tbh anyone backing the front two Post interviews with either trainer needed to be locked up for their own safety!!!
Gosden was delighted with Inspirals run. it was 4th beaten 13 lengths. To be happy with that he must have known it was about 25% fit. I'm not sure anyone backing it at 2/1 fav for the big race on a Saturday would be equally delighted with the run.
With the retirement of Ace Impact, the implosion of City Of Troy in the 2000G, the wishy-washy performances of the 3 yr olds colts and fillies, and the much of a muchness bunch of seniors including Auguste Rodin this season could be the season to forget even at this early stage.
What would be the benefit of Gosden undermining his principal jockey in public?
Shoemark detractors, don't worry; if he is not up to the job, he will be informed.
Shoemark detractors, don't worry; if he is not up to the job, he will be informed.
^^
Dettori. Not only by trainer but the owner of Stradivarius as well.
Dettori. Not only by trainer but the owner of Stradivarius as well.
Different character. Some need a sergeant major, some need a kind word. Either way, time tells.
The Dettori Sabbatical tells you all you need to know Impossible, if JG thinks KS is not up to the job he will get rid asap!!!! Probably forgotten more about the game than some on here would learn in multiple lifetimes.
I’m changing tactics now switching to football…
Starting tomorrow…….so I won’t be taking up the challenge…..sorry….
Starting tomorrow…….so I won’t be taking up the challenge…..sorry….
I think Ryan Moore is unavailable and Oisin Murphy head and shoulders above the rest.
There was a golden age of talented riders but the heyday was forty years ago and the decline has been steady since.
There was a golden age of talented riders but the heyday was forty years ago and the decline has been steady since.
So you realise you are FOS and Noble Locks Quixall?
Taken a long time (decades) but how do you propose to profit from football when your record is worse than your racing?
Taken a long time (decades) but how do you propose to profit from football when your record is worse than your racing?
He was saying what a brilliant Trainer was last Season.
Shotts Bon Accord was Quixalls grandads AOAW acey, at Arbroath, claimed inside info on selections and state of the pitch!!!
I'm surprised he isn't using Rossa Ryan , all class..along with Oisin
in the "pecking" order list of top jockeys were does shoemark rate in the list.(foot note) Karl Burke's jockey cliff LEE, riding well this season.
Rides Isle Of Lismore for R. Cowell 6.15,horse has winning form let’s see if he can fook this one up.
May 16, 2024 -- 4:36PM, wondersobright wrote:
on a seperate point june through sept historically been gosden best time of yearslow up to may & then some tail off from oct onwards large data sampleso remember that if you want to improve
june uptick who knew
Useless is being polite about him and his lack of ability !
Was awful. Again. Surly Gosdens cant let this continue
Beat on 1.03 today and 1.01 last night. It can't all be put down to bad luck. Things need to improve. The writing is on the wall. Whatever Gosdens wants owners will decide either he improves or we find another trainer.
Big muff 29 Jun 24 15:35
How did he get caught on Emily Upjohn?
quite simple..better horse on the day.
How did he get caught on Emily Upjohn?
quite simple..better horse on the day.
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