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13 Apr 24 17:54
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What stops him now?

With the obvious firepower at his disposal, it's in the bag. The only variable would be if he didn't try, which doesn't look to be the case.

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impossible123
When: 13 Apr 24 18:17
I thought about it just prior to the Aintree meet. I think he was about 3/1, and about £500k down. And, given his firepower in The National plus his goodies in Gp1 races it would have been an astute bet. Nevertheless, he still needs to turn up or win a few next week esp at Ayr and Sandown.
By:
CagliariG
When: 13 Apr 24 18:21
Maybe a Jewish terrorist posing as an Islamist dressed as a drag singer Cider?
By:
formoftheace
When: 13 Apr 24 18:23
Shocked
By:
Manoleeds
When: 13 Apr 24 18:37
Proabably depends what he wants to run at Punchestown
By:
Cider
When: 13 Apr 24 18:54
I actually looked at it on the day that the cheltenham festival kicked off, impossible! was trading around 20s. One senses that the brains trust there have been considering it for a good while, and now he has banked the national, they will be very focused on it.
By:
CagliariG
When: 13 Apr 24 18:56
Are you claiming a win as opposed to doing your small brain on an Islamist terrorist?
By:
Hayden
When: 13 Apr 24 19:02
Yes Cider someone said earlier when interviewed after the National he did mention the trainers championship without being prompted , which is obviously significant but pretty obvious now as well.

Amazing to think how many races he's won compared to PN   Happy
By:
Cider
When: 13 Apr 24 19:07
Definitely obvious, he was 9/4 to win the national today, which was a better price than this was trading. He had to win the national I felt. Now it's in the bag, I don't feel like the market reflects that he is almost certain to take it now (in my view).
By:
impossible123
When: 13 Apr 24 19:24
I thought I heard 1/2 to win this now. Wow! 20's prior to Cheltenham. I remember he sent his battalion one year but came unstuck at Sandown. Then withdrew his charge (the fav) in the next, and went back to Ireland. But, he did give it a good go though.
By:
Cider
When: 13 Apr 24 19:38
Yes that was very cynical. The dynamics are a lot different now.
By:
elise
When: 13 Apr 24 19:44
i was just trying to see how big a gap it was, it's not that big a lead for wm but i may have mis calc'd, skelton could make it v close at ayr tho
By:
Cider
When: 13 Apr 24 19:46
The unthinkable is now not only thinkable but almost inevitable, as Willie Mullins looks set to conquer two nations in one season.

The 17-time champion trainer in Ireland is now 8-13 favourite (from 13-8) with Ladbrokes to emulate Vincent O'Brien exactly 70 years ago by becoming British champion trainer, as a second Grand National triumph with I Am Maximus saw him rocket to the top of the table by £52,807 from Dan Skelton.

The Mullins earnings in Britain now stand at £2,874,693 as he added the richest prize available in jump racing to the four Grade 1s already annexed at the meeting and the nine winners he had at the Cheltenham Festival last month.

Mullins mania has taken over the big festivals this spring and he now has his eyes on the smaller ones too. Merely minutes after I Am Maximus had crossed the line, he was already thinking ahead.
By:
Cider
When: 13 Apr 24 19:48
About 50k ahead of Skelton and 140k ahead of PN.
By:
elise
When: 13 Apr 24 19:49
2 races at ayr wipe that on their own, obv skelton has to take them ahead of willie but not impossible
By:
Hayden
When: 13 Apr 24 19:51
I'm probably in the minority but i'd like Willie to win it myself    Happy
By:
elise
When: 13 Apr 24 19:51
staggering achievement when he's had a handful of winners
By:
Cider
When: 13 Apr 24 19:54
It's not impossible but I'd make it 1.2ish Mullins now.
By:
elise
When: 13 Apr 24 20:05
if you do then the 1.6 on here must be a massive bet
By:
penzance
When: 13 Apr 24 20:07
Skeltons got a fancied rnr in the big Sandown H'cap (£95K).
By:
Cider
When: 13 Apr 24 20:16
I'm already on at bigger elise.
By:
elise
When: 13 Apr 24 20:17
gl then, i think ayr will be eagerly awaited
By:
kevo
When: 14 Apr 24 10:21
Willie has 15 entries at the Ayr meeting.

5 in the Champion Hurdle.
10 in the National.

Sandown 13 entries in the Whitbread Gold Cup.
By:
1st time poster
When: 14 Apr 24 11:02
plenty of entries in scots nats.ch hur but none of them frightening the front of the betting, must be targeting the under card is he ? future champion novice etc
By:
Manoleeds
When: 14 Apr 24 11:53
The RP take https://www.racingpost.com/news/festivals/grand-national-festival/we-might-see-you-at-sandown-perth-ayr-or-anywhere-else-willie-mullins-gunning-for-trainers-title-after-grand-national-win-ak0R23Z5UCaQ/
By:
Cider
When: 18 Apr 24 15:33
Several preliminary entries for a couple of Ffos Las heats on Monday. Only £4k races.
By:
Twoboyz
When: 18 Apr 24 15:46
He has entered 4 in a novice handicap at Ffos Las and they will all be NQ Laugh
By:
Cider
When: 18 Apr 24 15:50
It's the intent that counts. Although quite surprising that his team only sent one over for Cheltenham this week.
By:
nineteen points
When: 18 Apr 24 15:58
saturday at ayr has a strong turnout from his stables
By:
Andriy
When: 18 Apr 24 16:03
If El Fabiolo comes over for Sandown, it'll be interesting to see where Jonbon goes, if anywhere, since it's possible Gaelic will run in the open company race at Punchestown.
By:
impossible123
When: 18 Apr 24 16:06
These entries are to lessen the chances of Nicholls and Skelton winning the races. If he keeps this up the white flag will be raised by the two English trainers. And, this is before El Fabiola turns up for the Celebration Chase. Over to you Hendo. Will Jonbon turn-up at Sandown to meet his superior who fluffed his line at Cheltenham? I hope so.
By:
Cider
When: 18 Apr 24 16:09
Sandown would be quite a challenge for El Fab to be fair.
By:
Cider
When: 19 Apr 24 19:31
from rp

Dan Skelton narrowly moved back in front of Willie Mullins in the British trainer's championship after sending out a 285-1 treble.

Skelton will go into Coral Scottish Grand National day around £5,000 clear of Mullins with one week to go following the victories of Catch Him Derry, Punta Del Este and Presenting Nelly.
By:
CagliariG
When: 19 Apr 24 19:56
And will it be the UK trainers title or still your "English" Cider?
By:
impossible123
When: 19 Apr 24 20:04
No book for the Celebration Chase (27th) at Sandown but the Champion Steeplechase (30th) in Punchestown has Jonbon at 2/1 fav and El Fabiola at 3/1; only 3 days between the two races.

I just cannot see Jonbon doing battle with El Fabiola at Sandown.
By:
roggrain
When: 20 Apr 24 09:52
To my mind it seems wrong to determine who is champion trainer based solely on purses.

Mullins has 19 winners from 125 runners for a strike rate of 15%.

Nicholls 125 winners from 521 runners for a strike rate of 24 %.

It would be an interesting question put to the trainers themselves.

Also to find out if it's any easier to train a class 6 handicapper

than a group 1 type.
By:
firstimevisor
When: 20 Apr 24 10:15
Nicholls wouldnt have too many class 6 handicappers.

If Mullins has 5 runners in a Cheltenham grade 1 and has the first 5 home, the stats might say he had a 20% strike rate but would not be telling the full story
By:
Hayden
When: 20 Apr 24 10:18
It's as different as chalk and cheese , you have to bend / exploit the rules for class 6 handicappers   Happy
By:
Manoleeds
When: 20 Apr 24 10:21
Opening Show said Paddy has already paid out on Mullins for bets placed before a certain time
By:
know all
When: 20 Apr 24 10:25
Great Saturday racing with the mullings runners spicing it up a bit, looks like his 3 rd string today as Cheltenham, punchestown and then this today,  what a puzzle but a nice puzzle, the fire power he has is on a different level to anyone else, when he retires it will return to how it used to be, just as pipe dominated then son took over and kaput, enjoy while you can the greatest trainer we have ever seen imo
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