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Rico-Dangleflaps
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Report Rico-Dangleflaps April 13, 2024 4:03 PM BST
maximus 10 to back 8 to lay Laugh
Report Big Boss April 13, 2024 4:04 PM BST
proper fecked
Report madhatter April 13, 2024 4:05 PM BST
Yeah, 17 to bet Y e ats, 16 to lay?????????????????
Report Rico-Dangleflaps April 13, 2024 4:05 PM BST
cant bet the 10 though..Laugh
Report elise April 13, 2024 4:11 PM BST
it was fecked early in the race, that was a right mess
Report Ibrahima Sonko April 13, 2024 4:11 PM BST
was all over the shop
Report hulk23 April 13, 2024 4:12 PM BST
all in running voided ??
Report revs April 13, 2024 4:12 PM BST
very suspicious....thought i'd backed at 10.0 but wasn't matched?????
Report freddiewilliams April 13, 2024 4:13 PM BST
Smelly
Report Ibrahima Sonko April 13, 2024 4:13 PM BST
better not be voided, im green all over the place.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps April 13, 2024 4:13 PM BST
if the IR market isnt voided theres no hope.
Report hulk23 April 13, 2024 4:13 PM BST
if it had lost they'd have been matched Wink
Report revs April 13, 2024 4:14 PM BST
makes you think that all these odds and amounts matched are an illusion
Report werbie April 13, 2024 4:15 PM BST
Somehow doubt an in running event of this magnitude will be voided Mischief
Report Ibrahima Sonko April 13, 2024 4:16 PM BST
betfair still owe me 1.3m from that voided race Mischief
Report hulk23 April 13, 2024 4:17 PM BST
voided the voler in-running.  or was that bcos it was their bot that was laying it ???
Report Celtic warrior April 13, 2024 4:17 PM BST
mahler mission £28 to lay at 25 for half the race after it fell. I bottled the lay thinking it was a commentator mistake!
Report Ibrahima Sonko April 13, 2024 4:18 PM BST
delta work was 42 on both the back & lay boxes Crazy
Report Ibrahima Sonko April 13, 2024 4:20 PM BST
settled Plain
Report hulk23 April 13, 2024 4:20 PM BST
mask beginning to slip regarding what's going on here ....
Report freddiewilliams April 13, 2024 4:22 PM BST
Hulk and his mask
Report elisjohn April 13, 2024 4:23 PM BST
irunning will be voided, no such problems on the purple site
Report duncan idaho April 13, 2024 4:23 PM BST
Angry
Report revs April 13, 2024 4:24 PM BST
full investigation needed as this doesn't look good
Report elisjohn April 13, 2024 4:25 PM BST
cant believe its been settled, but theyll probably adjust it all
Report Big Boss April 13, 2024 4:25 PM BST
I do not think it will be voided as those prices quoted in running were impossible to match (eg, 10.0 Maximus with 8.2 to lay at same time)

The question has to be raised, who's account or bot was the 10.0 that couldn't be matched
Report duncan idaho April 13, 2024 4:27 PM BST
funds returned & nowt in P&L....looks voided
Report hulk23 April 13, 2024 4:27 PM BST
ask freddie big boss.  he thinks there's nothing to see.  probably feels like a pr!ck cos he's been getting told for years there's something not right on here. 

wouldn't listen Sad
Report duncan idaho April 13, 2024 4:28 PM BST
ignore that!
Report elise April 13, 2024 4:28 PM BST
p&l is on now
Report scoobytoo April 13, 2024 4:28 PM BST
weighed in weighed in
Report elise April 13, 2024 4:28 PM BST
the in running is there currently
Report freddiewilliams April 13, 2024 4:29 PM BST
Lovely jubbly
Report Big Boss April 13, 2024 4:33 PM BST
as far as i can tell, the in running market was working normally BUT the best back prices were unmatchable, lay prices being smaller than those invisible back prices, cross matcher ????? - more questions than answers here, the software went t!ts up, we need full transparency on what happened here and who's accounts or bots were those fake back prices in running
Report revs April 13, 2024 4:40 PM BST
I want transparency on who owns the bot, as it has the ability to know my positions....I wonder who it could be?  hmmm let me think
Report Big Boss April 13, 2024 4:42 PM BST
Betfair / PP do not get involved with in play markets and do not have any software to skim markets, it is 100% peer to peer *COUGH*
Report Rico-Dangleflaps April 13, 2024 4:57 PM BST
Thank you for your patience, the trading team have come back stating that they are aware that we had some display issues with the pricing for the Grand National on the Exchange. This is currently being investigated further by the technical team. In the meantime, we apologise for the inconvenience caused. - Timothy
4:44 PM
so why has the market been settled?  the prices in the back box for the winner were not available? the market shud be voided.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps April 13, 2024 5:03 PM BST
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Report Rico-Dangleflaps April 13, 2024 5:03 PM BST
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Apologies for any inconvenience caused by this, the trading and technical team are running an investigation so for the time being we do not have any further information to provide.  - Timothy
Report elise April 13, 2024 5:08 PM BST
trying to figure what we were seeing where the lay price is lower than the back price, on a number of those still running the lay price was incorrect but if you set higher than the back price you could match a price that wasn't in the first box
Report hulk23 April 13, 2024 5:10 PM BST
Betfair / PP do not get involved with in play markets and do not have any software to skim markets, it is 100% peer to peer *COUGH*

if you dig around on Youtube you'll see Betfair admitting they outsource their trading (on their own markets) to a third party.

meant to be to seed the markets, do you think that's all they do ??? nah.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps April 13, 2024 5:25 PM BST
1 new message
Apologies for any inconvenience caused by this, the trading and technical team are running an investigation so for the time being we do not have any further information to provide.  - Timothy
Report freddiewilliams April 13, 2024 5:26 PM BST
Start investigation on Dundalk 520
Report Rico-Dangleflaps April 13, 2024 5:26 PM BST
Thank you for your patience, the trading team have come back stating that they are aware that we had some display issues with the pricing for the Grand National on the Exchange. This is currently being investigated further by the technical team. In the meantime, we apologise for the inconvenience caused. - Timothy
4:44 PM
so why has the market been settled?

simply wrong at every level.
Report duffy April 13, 2024 5:55 PM BST
They will ride it out knowing that eventually all the noise will die down and we just accept it. With nothing else really out there, that's the bottom line and they know that.
Report stu April 13, 2024 5:58 PM BST
Partly true duffy - but as we can see from liquidity they do still lose customers eventually...
Report stu April 13, 2024 5:59 PM BST
If they end up with just a 'bookies' - GL with that one...
Report big aitch April 13, 2024 6:02 PM BST
They should cancel all in running and reimburse any money that was lost on the National as their site is not fit for purpose. They make millions every day so it would be a drop in the ocean.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps April 13, 2024 6:30 PM BST
so we had maximus that was not able to be backed if you clicked the blue box..but bets settled.
Report elise April 13, 2024 6:46 PM BST
it could be backed but not at the ods showing until it went 101
Report Rico-Dangleflaps April 13, 2024 6:47 PM BST
but bets settled.
Report elise April 13, 2024 6:49 PM BST
yes, , obv api was seeing false numbers, not completely sure if also same on main site, but in effect we're seeing ghost numbers and it's a cache issue, or a cross match issue
Report elise April 13, 2024 6:50 PM BST
the problem only exists on that race, so it's a specific they did, maybe turned something off(?) and it produced a visual issue, with the real prices still there but not in the first pink or blue box
Report Andriy April 13, 2024 6:51 PM BST
it was the same on the main site elise
Report elise April 13, 2024 6:55 PM BST
cheers andriy, which points more towards something like cross matching fakery with the real backs and lays not in the first box on either side (although not all), so eg when mahler mission fell there was a large amount to lay between 27 and 100 and that money was matched even tho it was in the first pink box
Report flukes April 13, 2024 8:28 PM BST
Seen numerous examples recently of the same price to back and lay on football markets. Is usually rectified after a few minutes but makes you wonder if there is is a glitch with their interfaces or something more sinister is afoot.
Report elisjohn April 13, 2024 8:57 PM BST
its 99.99 certain this ir market will be void, i wanted to back the winner when showing around10 to back and 8 to lay, ( like flukes says this happens often in soccer), so i actually put a back bet on 7 which got matched, i fully expect it to be voided , so to cover myself i backed the winner with daq at 6, only small money,
Report Regbutler April 13, 2024 9:05 PM BST
^^^
Surely would have been voided by now if it was going to be?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps April 13, 2024 9:06 PM BST
wont be voided now.
Report Brian April 14, 2024 12:11 PM BST
There are so many unfair situations on Betfair (the in-house bots, ridiculous reduction factors, late non-runners, in-running time issues to name just a few) I think we just have to accept it (what's the alternative?) and take the rough with the smooth.
Report freddiewilliams April 14, 2024 1:15 PM BST
Ir voided at 9pm. Good luck with that
Report freddiewilliams April 14, 2024 1:18 PM BST
3 million available to back Kolkata at 1.3 inplay
Report stu April 14, 2024 3:23 PM BST
Brian, yes and no - see my posts yesterday above for way it's going if they are not careful.
Report Brian April 14, 2024 4:40 PM BST
It is going that way Stu but I don't think PP cares as long Betfair remains by fair the main exchange  and thus deterring  significant competitors
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