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31 Aug 23 15:41
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No prizes - just for fun and forum prestige.

64* players drawn in 32 matches, winner progresses to next round.
*dependant on interest, if between 32 and 64 sign up then there will be a preliminary round to get to a first round of 32.
If between 64 and 128 sign up then a preliminary round to get to a first round of 64.

The Draw will be tennis style, ie. your path to the final will be fixed, not new draw every round.
Each round will take place on a Saturday.
I will choose 5 of the highest profile races for each Saturday, and selections must be made from those 5, one per player from each.
I will try to spread the races across Turf, Jumps, AW, but it just depends what's available.
Races will be confirmed shortly after Thursday's final declarations and entries open at that point.

Within each match, duplicates not allowed, first come first served.

If you do inadvertently duplicate, then of-course you can change up to cut-off time, otherwise no runner no points.
The cut-off time for posting all selections will be the time of the first chosen race, I will make the specific time clear on the Thursday.

Points will be awarded as follows:
Winner of a race gets 5pts, runner-up gets 3pts, 3rd 2pts and 4th 1pt.
A bonus point will be awarded to any top four finish if the SP is 3/1 or over, 2pts if 5/1 or over.

Points scored will be totted up for all five races and highest scoring winner goes through to next round.
In the event of a tie, the player with the best priced winner goes through, or if no winners, then runner-up and so on.
If both players fail to score then whoever has best priced 5th or 6th etc. will go through.

Once you have posted a selection you may not change it unless it is a non-runner.
Non-runners - you may replace up to the cut-off time. You may not leave reserves as it may impact on what your opponent can choose.
If you end up with a non-runner then no points for that race.

Please sign up below, the sooner you do the less chance of having to contest the preliminary round.
Example, total of 48 want to play - First 16 go in to a 32 player 1st round draw, other 32 will play preliminary match.

I will not accept entries for "friends", you must sign in below to take part.

Start date as soon as possible, once entries start to slow we'll get an idea of numbers.
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Report September 1, 2023 9:17 AM BST
Please count me in UD, and many thanks for organising yet another competition to keep the forum masses entertained. Happy
Report the numbers seven September 1, 2023 9:46 AM BST
Yes please UD.
Report dunter1 September 1, 2023 11:04 AM BST
Report china castle September 1, 2023 12:44 PM BST
I'm in UD, thanks Cool
Report Platinum September 1, 2023 1:09 PM BST
I'll have a go, thanks.
Report scrabbler September 1, 2023 1:13 PM BST
Count me in. Thanks.
Report undecided September 1, 2023 1:26 PM BST
Thanks everyone.

That's 33 so far, assuming acey is in, no limits, let's at least get to 64.
Report feed the goat...... September 1, 2023 1:38 PM BST
Yes please
Report timberman September 1, 2023 2:49 PM BST
I’ll enter please
Report acey deucy September 1, 2023 3:30 PM BST
Yes count me in undecided.
Report bluenose7 September 1, 2023 4:23 PM BST
Report Lampus September 1, 2023 6:29 PM BST
Report NonVintage September 1, 2023 6:47 PM BST
Sounds good, so yes please!
Report breadnbutter September 1, 2023 6:54 PM BST
Report onthehoy September 1, 2023 7:01 PM BST
Count me in

Report madhatter September 1, 2023 8:01 PM BST
Yes please ud
Report adamanty September 1, 2023 9:20 PM BST
Yes please.
Report SontaranStratagem September 1, 2023 10:11 PM BST
I'll join ExcitedHappy

Sounds like a good one
Report SoulKillers September 1, 2023 11:01 PM BST
Count me in please.
Report unluckyStu September 2, 2023 9:53 AM BST
Stick me in ud
Report Moose September 2, 2023 10:14 AM BST
I'm in
Report jimnast September 2, 2023 10:28 AM BST
Good grief there’s going to be more runners than the London marathon
Report GLASGOWCALLING September 2, 2023 10:40 AM BST
... Aye and just for the Bragging Rights, COME ON BETFAIR chuck a few £s in the pot !!!  Hardly going to put a dent in the Annual Profits. ?
Report jimnast September 2, 2023 10:44 AM BST
Seriously glasgow you would think betfair would organise a proper day out at the races for the likes of undecided and other comp organisers.
Report GLASGOWCALLING September 2, 2023 10:56 AM BST
100% Agree with you Jimnast, they read ALL the threads, they just dont seem interested .... Tight Coonts. Laugh
Report undecided September 2, 2023 11:15 AM BST
Do you remember last year I got some prizes for Chelt and Aintree comps?
The entries nearly doubled from the usual so I don't know if that's enough for Betfair.
At the time I spoke to someone there with big plans for the forum, hence that survey they did and then it all went quiet.

I'm not motivated enough to keep chasing them for stuff, the prizes were modest anyway, let's just enjoy the competition.
Report jimnast September 2, 2023 11:24 AM BST
Undecided were all amateurs and it certainly wouldn’t make any difference to me or foxy if there was prize money but as I said to Glasgow I do think it’s time you and other organisers were given a treat.
Report undecided September 2, 2023 11:27 AM BST
Thanks jimnast, I did get a few quid off them for those comps at least. There are plenty of others who run comps that don't get anything.
Report undecided September 2, 2023 11:28 AM BST
Anyway back to business, we are up to 45, target 64+ Happy
Report Brian September 2, 2023 11:30 AM BST
I don't study form these days so unlikely to trouble the judge but just for fun, add me in please.
Report driver2 September 2, 2023 11:59 AM BST
I was a bit undecided, undecided, but I've decided now. count me in please.
Report monarch September 2, 2023 12:02 PM BST
Count me in please.
Report The Management September 2, 2023 1:32 PM BST
Hello undecided - you are a good man for doing this (again).

If you could conjure up a pair of BF branded socks as a prize, that would swing it for me. Preferably two x right footed ones, to make pairs out of the 2 x left footed ones they sent me in about 2004! I think they were trying to tell me something!

Come on BF, give the man some merchandise and/or bet vouchers, even if it's only a token gesture to show you give a sh1t.

Maybe a t-shirt with "Paddy closed my account" on the front and "But he still lets me play roulette" on the back?
Report undecided September 2, 2023 2:20 PM BST
TM - should really boycott BF for that ad, but it's the only place I bet Laugh

Are you in?
Report driver2 September 2, 2023 2:21 PM BST
Report CagliariG September 2, 2023 2:22 PM BST
Put a post for you on competitions forum UD.
Report The Management September 2, 2023 2:24 PM BST
Go on then ud I'm in, thanks - but I want at least one sock if I win!
Report Whippin Piccadilly September 2, 2023 2:49 PM BST
Throw me in UD. I need to put my woeful team comp performance behind me. Grin
Report CagliariG September 2, 2023 4:06 PM BST
Anybody sitting on the fence for the competitions and this knockout, here is an incentive to have a go at both.

Military Order 4/5 stuffed

Father Of Jazz 8/15 stuffed

Chief Black Robe 2/5 stuffed

Only day 2 of the competitions and you can see the strength of much of the opposition?
Report GLASGOWCALLING September 2, 2023 4:24 PM BST
Not sure you can condone anyone for picking an odds on shot for the comps Cag, A Nap is what you make your best bet of the day, what you can condone imo is those ( very few ) that persist in backing the lowest priced runner of the day for years on end. ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzZZZZZZZ YAWN.
Report CagliariG September 2, 2023 4:31 PM BST
Condone means to support/agree GC, up to them what they select but how can it be a competition if there is no attempt to be better than the opposition. I think you meant condemn, but just trying to support the concept.

Btw maybe you should look harder at the "Very" few i.e yesterday's 1/5 and 2/15 shots therough all divisions?

Good luck in stuffing acey btw!!Wink
Report CagliariG September 2, 2023 4:32 PM BST
Through btw not that Lois bloke!!Wink
Report CagliariG September 2, 2023 4:32 PM BST
Through btw not that Lois bloke!!Wink
Report GLASGOWCALLING September 2, 2023 4:39 PM BST
Condemn. Wink
Report GLASGOWCALLING September 2, 2023 4:43 PM BST
Acey wont be a threat, his punting days are behind him, he got lucky in the Naps comp a few years back. I believe Greville Starkey was riding at the time, and he hasnt stopped talking about it since. !LaughGrin
Report CagliariG September 2, 2023 4:50 PM BST
That is the sort of positive approach needed GC, acey sharpening his pencil ready for battle, as the old saying goes "Form is temporary, class is permanent" least that is what he told me!!!Wink
Report CagliariG September 2, 2023 6:56 PM BST
ttt for those fence sitters!!
Report CagliariG September 2, 2023 7:00 PM BST
No sign yet of Happysandwich or PHS et al?

Surprised tbh being as the competitions are a friendly all inclusive part of the Forum with little nastiness or snidey entrants?LaughWink
Report soldieroffortune September 2, 2023 7:21 PM BST
ud once again thank you for organising another brilliant looking competition.

If it helps you to get to an initial 64 mate I'm in.
Report CagliariG September 2, 2023 7:22 PM BST
WD, Skinto would be proud!!CoolCool
Report soldieroffortune September 2, 2023 7:29 PM BST
Yeh my days in the other comp are numbered Cagliari, but in something like this I'll just give it a right go.

Give him my love and best wishes would you please, there was plenty of banter and no real animosity between us.
Report CagliariG September 2, 2023 7:36 PM BST
I am going to try and get over before the end of the season and hope he is better than he was, this time to try and persuade him to keep in touch on here and otherwise soldier. That said it will not be easy but would you mind if I dropped your name in to stir him up?
Report soldieroffortune September 2, 2023 7:43 PM BST
Absolutely fine Cagliari, be really good to see him back on here and I hope he's ok.
Report acey deucy September 2, 2023 7:45 PM BST
I could not tip sh1te out of a barrow lately just making up the numbers here.Wink
Report CagliariG September 2, 2023 7:49 PM BST
Will do my best but tbh he was very ill, hope this time he agrees. Thanks, if anything can inspire him it will be the premiership, that said I have been trying on his behalf to try and spark a response but I don't think he has even looked.
Report CagliariG September 2, 2023 8:13 PM BST
You at your most dangerous acey, just do not peak before toftl go to work!!Wink
Report acey deucy September 2, 2023 8:18 PM BST
Te he he.Cool
Report CagliariG September 2, 2023 8:31 PM BST
Heartbroken btw not to be promoted, missed out by 13p and refusing to use the rest days, might change just to pee off Ikeaman in future.

SDC had a snide, unlucky to one of his user names for also failing and being second beaten 5L on the final day, not a mention of the above or sh hd and nose 3rd @ 33/1 which would have destroyed the lot. That said 29 out of the 30 were stuffed by the 3 lower divisions, just a creel btw if you get my drift on quotas!!Wink
Report raspberrybottom September 3, 2023 8:03 AM BST
I'll have a go if there's any spaces left......Happy
Report rob22 September 3, 2023 8:34 AM BST
Count me in please
Report undecided September 3, 2023 2:24 PM BST
1    undecided
2    madhatters
3    youresomean
4    Lampus
5    Aquarius
6    Shanelee1966
7    jimnast
8    CagliariG
9    acey deucy
10    cobs101
11    stewpot
12    penzance
13    The Sawyer
14    OilyWragg
15    foxy
16    Clerkmore
17    FatPunt
18    N-east Correspondent
19    barstool
20    The Dragon
21    dukeofpuke
22    Hilly
23    lockup
24    differentdrum
25    salmon spray
27    airto
28    Andrew.In.Sweden
29    the numbers seven
30    dunter1
31    china castle
32    Platinum
33    scrabbler
34    feed the goat…...
35    timberman
36    bluenose7
37    NonVintage
38    breadnbutter
39    onthehoy
40    madhatter
41    adamanty
42    SontaranStratagem
43    SoulKillers
44    unluckyStu
45    Moose
46    Brian
47    driver2
48    monarch
49    The Management
50    Whippin Piccadilly
51    soldieroffortune
52    raspberrybottom
53    rob22

More please Happy
Report hong kong fooey September 3, 2023 2:54 PM BST
Put me in  the draw UD. Might make me study a bit more,Wink
Report CagliariG September 3, 2023 4:35 PM BST
Early match betting based on previous form only.

Acey 1st run for new stable, gelded since lto, 1st time Cheek Pieces. 4/6

GC tunbled down the weights, reported to have bled from the nose lto, wearing spurs for the first time. (outside his bedroom). 6/4

10/1 the draw win only!!

Any sign of non trier, all bets void!!Wink
Report mitolo September 3, 2023 4:54 PM BST
should the scoring cistern not better reward big choc ices?

5 points for an even money but only 2 more for a 33 seems unfair and will only encourage picking the first few in the bbetting
Report CagliariG September 3, 2023 5:00 PM BST
That is true mitolo but at least negates the chance of flukes like the sp system skewing overall consistency for most?
Report undecided September 3, 2023 5:14 PM BST
Fair comment mitolo, but I'm trying to keep it simple, as it is a match it's more about just beating your opponent's selection and not being flashy with outsiders.

Can we count you in?
Report CagliariG September 3, 2023 5:19 PM BST
Replied UD.
Report mitolo September 3, 2023 5:26 PM BST
oh alright then. i was of course, talking through self-interest as i never back anything less then 50/1

whoever draws me might get lucky as im such a nerbert i cant get up in time

any chance of fixing the draw so i get suntararse sanatogen? id be off for me life against that wanchor. id even try race-fixing
Report undecided September 3, 2023 5:41 PM BST
ok CG thanks.
Report liqernpoker September 3, 2023 7:00 PM BST
Count me in .....

  A few jumps races greatly appreciated.....
Report acey deucy September 3, 2023 8:46 PM BST
Apart from me i cant see many Premier Division Winners in the line up although Salmon might have Won back when God was in short trousers.Cool
Report travelling man September 3, 2023 8:51 PM BST
Have you reached 64 yet UD?
Report hynesy1 September 3, 2023 8:52 PM BST
I’m in if space keft
Report undecided September 3, 2023 9:36 PM BST
you would be no. 57 travelling man.
Report undecided September 3, 2023 9:51 PM BST
I think it may be best to stop at 64, so 6 spaces left. Don't need a prelim round then and we could start 1st round proper on Saturday.
Report travelling man September 3, 2023 9:56 PM BST
Okay then UD count me in Happy
Report GRP888 September 3, 2023 10:10 PM BST
Please count me in undecided
Report undecided September 3, 2023 10:17 PM BST
5 places left now.
Report SontaranStratagem September 3, 2023 10:43 PM BST
got the 64 pretty quickly ExcitedHappy
Report driver2 September 4, 2023 1:11 AM BST
Sorry undecided, I've got to pull out.
Report DeSSieReborn September 4, 2023 11:21 AM BST
i'll join UD, sounds fun Wink
Report undecided September 4, 2023 12:19 PM BST
ok driver2 thanks for letting me know.

Still 5 spots available then.
Report Lucky Luciano September 4, 2023 1:43 PM BST
UD I will take one please
Report undecided September 4, 2023 2:13 PM BST
4 to go.
Report undecided September 4, 2023 2:41 PM BST
Mr_Spreadsheet has just signed in on the other thread, three to go.

Can't think we won't make it now so I'll make plans for the draw to take place on Wednesday evening and we can make a start on Saturday.
Report Shanelee1966 September 4, 2023 2:52 PM BST
Great to see so many stepping forward ud Cool
Report undecided September 4, 2023 3:28 PM BST
Yes Shane, very pleased.
Report The Management September 4, 2023 4:07 PM BST
Would have been at least 128 if BF had stumped up a pair of socks (imo) CryLaughWink
Report mitolo September 4, 2023 4:19 PM BST
i wasnt going to bovver but ive had a side bet just ito incentivise meself
Report SontaranStratagem September 5, 2023 12:37 AM BST
Put me against mitolo Tongue Out
Report JUMPJUDGE September 5, 2023 7:01 AM BST
Report Lance in France September 5, 2023 7:40 AM BST
I'll make up the numbers if room left
Report DeSSieReborn September 5, 2023 10:58 AM BST
Mate this is a stayers race not a sprint Whoops
Report DeSSieReborn September 5, 2023 10:59 AM BST
Thats to Mitolo Crazy
Report undecided September 5, 2023 12:10 PM BST
One more please.

Anyone after that can go on a reserve list, might be one or two pull out.
Report GEORGE.B September 5, 2023 12:37 PM BST
Me please, undecided

Report undecided September 5, 2023 12:58 PM BST
Thank you George, that completes the line-up.
Report salmon spray September 5, 2023 3:18 PM BST
I did indeed win it years ago when the world shook at my 25-1 last day winner.
Just at a quick glance Lampus and hong kong fooey are multiple winners,and I'm pretty sure there are others.
Having said that it's nice to see a number coming forward who have rarely,if ever,taken part in the Naps Comp.
Report nawshan September 6, 2023 9:06 AM BST
Hi if there is a reserve list can I go on it. Thanks
Report undecided September 6, 2023 11:49 AM BST
nawshan, you'll be first in line if anyone drops out, keep an eye out.
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