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stewarty b
16 Mar 23 15:57
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Finished like a train. Cost the horse the race. A job jockey on good horses. Beggars belief.
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Report Ibrahima Sonko March 16, 2023 2:57 PM GMT
Even caught out at the start.
Report CROPSICK March 16, 2023 2:58 PM GMT
That was truly awful
Report Big muff March 16, 2023 2:58 PM GMT
Good on the steering jobs but so is any of them
Report Hayden March 16, 2023 2:59 PM GMT
Great training performance by the winner  Happy
Report pandora1963 March 16, 2023 3:00 PM GMT
Should have won, the silver spoon kid blew it
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2023 3:01 PM GMT
stewy embarrassing himself again..#WAC
Report Big muff March 16, 2023 3:02 PM GMT

Mar 16, 2023 -- 3:59PM, Hayden wrote:


Great training performance by the winner

Report sageform March 16, 2023 3:02 PM GMT
It was not a great ride. He also gave away a place on Walking on Air when beaten for a gap going to the last. Agree about the winner, I am getting very hopeful of A Plus Tard now.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2023 3:03 PM GMT
horse was travelling as well as any..got in too close to 3 out and made a horrific mistake...

stewys blaming nico...you are an absolute embarrassent man.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2023 3:04 PM GMT
pocket talking of course..if won £800 on winner.

WAC.
Report Mat22 March 16, 2023 3:04 PM GMT
agree nico a bit slow to react at the start but horse never jumped well a lot of crap been said here as per usual.
Report stewarty b March 16, 2023 3:04 PM GMT
steve completely gone with his stalking. I hope things get better with his mental health. They usually do if he gets some back up. That aside, he detests winners.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2023 3:05 PM GMT
Mat22 16 Mar 23 15:04 
agree nico a bit slow to react at the start but horse never jumped well a lot of crap been said here as per usual.


wd stewy
Report paul1965 March 16, 2023 3:05 PM GMT
Made a bad blunder 3 out and did well to stay intact but never started riding it until he knew Blackmore was home and hosed
Report paul1965 March 16, 2023 3:05 PM GMT
Made a bad blunder 3 out and did well to stay intact but never started riding it until he knew Blackmore was home and hosed
Report Trusty March 16, 2023 3:05 PM GMT
Should have pulled him up after the bad mistake, absolutely no point giving the horse such a hard ride to finish 2nd. Stupid ride.
Report now wheres that switch!!! March 16, 2023 3:07 PM GMT
Nico looked like his bottle had gone, didnt ever ask for a stride at the fences or give him a kick into them. Very strange...
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2023 3:07 PM GMT
paul..= another clueless clown
Report sickoflayinwinners March 16, 2023 3:07 PM GMT
in all truth even when siskin looked  unbeatable he usually needed a bit of pushing along early in his races then  went on  to travel better the further they went, big difference  now is  whisking jumping  is  not really top  class. (clearly jumping cost   it the race today) he wasn't closer up cos he couldn't  lay up or horse may just be becoming a bit tricky.al that said  with a clear round of   jumping he deffo have won
Report sickoflayinwinners March 16, 2023 3:07 PM GMT
in all truth even when siskin looked  unbeatable he usually needed a bit of pushing along early in his races then  went on  to travel better the further they went, big difference  now is  whisking jumping  is  not really top  class. (clearly jumping cost   it the race today) he wasn't closer up cos he couldn't  lay up or horse may just be becoming a bit tricky.al that said  with a clear round of   jumping he deffo have won
Report sickoflayinwinners March 16, 2023 3:09 PM GMT
blooming    predictive text!! whisking    should read shiskin
Report Ibrahima Sonko March 16, 2023 3:10 PM GMT
The slow start was a factor and was nico over racing him to get a position, i dont know but I have not seen Shishkin make that many mistakes in a race.
Report paul1965 March 16, 2023 3:12 PM GMT
Rico= another forum bully
Report 1st time poster March 16, 2023 3:14 PM GMT
comms etc getting excited about finishing 2nd, he beat hitman,everythings beats hitman if your anyway near it over the last,about 2 stone below what they thought he was 12 months and a day ago,and barber still saying he,s back
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2023 3:14 PM GMT
hard to bully an anonymous typer.
Report strontium March 16, 2023 3:16 PM GMT
Horse barely went a yard today. But he's been like that in 3 of his last 4 races. Maybe he's no longer right. Or maybe he wants a flattish track (at least not an upsy-downsy one like Cheltenham or Sandown). Maybe he also wants 3 miles - they went off at a good pace there and that seemed to unsettle him.
Report paul1965 March 16, 2023 3:17 PM GMT
Anonymous typer lol
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK March 16, 2023 3:17 PM GMT
Could that be its last run at Cheltenham?
3m aintree
King George
Nothing left at chelts for it
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2023 3:21 PM GMT
nico being interviewed said horse never felt right today..without the 3 out blunder would it have won? debatable,possibly..nico done nothing wrong.
Report now wheres that switch!!! March 16, 2023 3:26 PM GMT
i agree he didnt do anything wrong, the trouble was, he didnt do anything right either. Looked as lethargic as the hoss
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2023 3:29 PM GMT
was still 5/4 before 3 out..some in this fred must have made plenty?
Report WHOKNOWSTHEBOWLER March 17, 2023 9:07 PM GMT
The issue is why a horse who is bred for 3m+ , has ran like he needs 3m plus, has only just been stepped up to 2m 4f when he is 9 years old. No 10 year old has won the gold cup for 30 years and Henderson now taking of stepping him up to 3m. He was finally fit and they have completely missed the opportunity of winning the Gold Cup . Feel sorry for the horse that his programme over the last 3 years has been so pathetically mapped out.
Report strontium March 17, 2023 9:37 PM GMT
Perhaps, but even at his best he wouldn't have won the Gold Cup today.
Report sageform March 18, 2023 2:03 PM GMT
Looking at his total book of rides this week, I am not really a fan. Very weak on Walking on Air and got left on Minella Indo. Mind you, apart from CH. Nicky has a very weak hand this season.
Report strontium March 18, 2023 2:10 PM GMT
Nicky had a disappointing week - Marie's Rock, Jonbon, Shiskin, Luccia all very well beaten.
Report sageform March 18, 2023 2:14 PM GMT
Time may prove that Jonbon ran to form but he was about the only one apart from CH and perhaps the one that was third in the Martin Pipe.
Report Newmarket-spurs March 18, 2023 5:09 PM GMT
Nico DB is not a very good jockey. He rides so many shockers. Henderson is blindly loyal and its costing him.
Report CROPSICK March 18, 2023 5:34 PM GMT
I just think Shishkin did not enjoy being in among horses, that was the biggest chase field he had run against he is used to being prominent against 4-6 runners.
Report Dr Crippen March 18, 2023 8:17 PM GMT
He got £79,500 for coming second.
Whether without the blunder he would have got to the winner is not certain.

Is he taking him to Liverpool? He’ll be interesting if he does.
Report strontium March 18, 2023 9:50 PM GMT
Read on here he's going to the Bowl at Aintree. HdB also thinking about it for A Plus Tard. Could be an interesting race, especially if Nicholls has got something for it too.
Report eric_morris March 19, 2023 12:07 AM GMT
Shiskin is a faster ground horse he struggles to travel on slow ground. There is often a race that pushes a horse to it’s limit after which they are not the same again.

Coneygree the Gold Cup
Shiskin the Tingle Creek really hard race to beat Energumene
Edwardstone being bottomed in January trying to catch Editeur Du Gite

The weaknesses they could previously overcome come to the surface mentally more after a tougher than tough run.
Report eric_morris March 19, 2023 12:08 AM GMT
I should know being a horse psychologist. Had several sessions with them all to discuss this.
Report strontium March 19, 2023 11:11 AM GMT
Yes, a hard race bottoming a horse is quite common. Altior at Ascot was another. I think one of the things that defines the really great horses is that they can come back from such races and do it again and again (e.g. Desert Orchid, Kauto Star).

Incidentally, Shiskin/Energumene was the Clarence House Chase, not the Tingle Creek.
Report Dr Crippen March 19, 2023 11:33 AM GMT
This hard race stuff needs some understanding.
So Shiskin had a hard race which has finished him, but the second Energumene, had just as hard a race but won its next three races.

I get it now.
Report sageform March 19, 2023 11:33 AM GMT
All the hype about Galopin Des Champs winning 2 or three Gold Cups is remarkably similar to what we thought and read about A Plus Tard last year. GDC might become a multiple Gold Cup winner but history tells us that he probably won't. Bravemansgame also had the hardest race of his life so we can only hope that he recovers from it.
Report strontium March 19, 2023 11:37 AM GMT
Horses are all different Dr Crippen (which is kind of the whole point of the sport). Some can't, or won't, go back to the well.

Sage - quite so.
Report Dr Crippen March 19, 2023 11:59 AM GMT
At some point any horse is going to be past its best. It can show in several ways. In Shiskin's case it was that race against Emnergumene where he was getting beaten for speed all up the straight, until after the last where the eventual second called enough.

I'd say Shiskin isn't as good as it was. But that's not to say it can't win big races at the moment.
Shiskin is a nine year old, so it's reasonable to expect his best days are behind him now. As with the majority of horses when they reach that age.
But as you strontiun says ‘’they’re not all the same.’’
Report Facts March 19, 2023 1:25 PM GMT
A 9 year old NH horse is past it's best ??
Are you having a laugh !!
Report Dr Crippen March 19, 2023 2:25 PM GMT
We have to make allowances for Facts.

He's a leftie. And it shows.
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