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Rico-Dangleflaps
11 May 22 14:54
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Report tyred May 11, 2022 2:55 PM BST
Sherlock ^
Report stewarts rise May 11, 2022 2:56 PM BST
Ban coming up for schofield I'd have thought.
Report Aberdeen Angus May 11, 2022 2:56 PM BST
Ridiculous why he kept whip in right hand dangerous riding
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2022 2:57 PM BST
its deffo cost the 3rd 2nd place...what will the stewards do today?
Report kavvie May 11, 2022 2:58 PM BST
is the lady on atr blind?  nothing to see she says. jockey on inside never stopped riding?!?  who is she
Report Gagging May 11, 2022 2:59 PM BST
Don't think they'll overturn the winner but FFS Scholfield - that seemed more than just 'race-riding'!
Report stewarts rise May 11, 2022 2:59 PM BST
What's the verdict Rico, your the expert on such matters?
Report carrot1960 May 11, 2022 3:00 PM BST
Looks exactly the same "offence" that got the winner thrown out around a month ago for causing inference to Gosdens horse that finished third
Report carrot1960 May 11, 2022 3:03 PM BST
CRENELLE ,was the horse and the stewards reversed the decision on appeal , if that was anything to go by the placings will be reversed
Report ItsMeSwaddle May 11, 2022 3:03 PM BST
Hilarious riding, wont be chucked but wtf the point of taking 1/3 anything cud happen
Report Gagging May 11, 2022 3:04 PM BST
I think i see why Scholfield allegedly thought it ok for that guy to threaten a famous lady rider with being put through the side of the fencing!
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2022 3:04 PM BST
Rico-Dangleflaps 11 May 22 14:57 
its deffo cost the 3rd 2nd place...what will the stewards do today?

stewarts rise 11 May 22 14:59 
What's the verdict Rico, your the expert on such matters?
Report __O1 May 11, 2022 3:05 PM BST
Winner goes based on recent stewarding.  Jockey has chosen not to correct.
Report elise May 11, 2022 3:05 PM BST
based on recent stewarding they'll do the opposite of what they should and it will stand lol
Report Gagging May 11, 2022 3:06 PM BST
Jock gets a holiday - winner very green but still deserved to win
Report Gagging May 11, 2022 3:07 PM BST
Dangles is fence-sitting as opposed to being pushed through it!
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2022 3:08 PM BST
the stewards started setting a precendent of placing a horse behind the horse its cost a closer place..the the bha turned around the crenelle one on appeal which was farcical as the winner that day 1million % cost crenelle a closer place..yesterday they allowed it to stand at bev...today the winner has 1 million % cost the 3rd 2nd plaice..

THEY ARE NOT CONSISTENT...THEY ARE CLOWNS..GRADE A.
Report wondersobright May 11, 2022 3:08 PM BST
a few years ago sub 1.1 to keep it imo...should keep it but how can u trust them
Report elise May 11, 2022 3:09 PM BST
that's why i think they'll let it stand, they shouldn't tho
Report shaungoater May 11, 2022 3:10 PM BST
Wonder if the stewards realise the winner was stargazing the whole home straight and was so bored he waited for his mates to catch up and accidentally got in their way as Schofield was being a numpty. Probably not.
Report Kriskin May 11, 2022 3:10 PM BST
FPTP - the best horse by a mile.  That will be enough to keep the race.  Jockey will get a small holiday
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2022 3:11 PM BST
Lay (Bet Against)
Backer's odds
Backer's stake
Payout
Liability
Celtic Fortune
895.31
£0.64
£572.36
Proud Mari
433.42
£18.00
£7,783.60
Total stake:
£18.64

rico went the easy route..
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2022 3:12 PM BST
Kriskin 11 May 22 15:10 
FPTP - the best horse by a mile.  That will be enough to keep the race.

that didnt matter weeks/mths ago..they put the horse behind tthe horse that it cost a closer plaice.
Report elise May 11, 2022 3:13 PM BST
taking ages tho, so we might be getting a dq
Report ItsMeSwaddle May 11, 2022 3:15 PM BST
Agree with above but wont irritate myself by guessing what they will do

2/1 go now looking better value.
Report Gagging May 11, 2022 3:16 PM BST
worrying if they have to even think about it - not in their pretty limited skill set
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2022 3:16 PM BST
result stands
Report __O1 May 11, 2022 3:17 PM BST
Huge change in price seconds before announcement
Report Gagging May 11, 2022 3:19 PM BST
personally i think stewards should punish guilty jocks but allow the best horse to win on its merits generally while having the flexibility to award a DH if very  very close decision and its just a matter of opinion and hair breadths
Report carrot1960 May 11, 2022 3:21 PM BST
1/100 turned over on appeal
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2022 3:21 PM BST
so,last 2 days it doesnt matter if the winner has cost another runner a closer plaice.

you cudnt make up what the clowns that run this sport will decide next.

#NOT FIT FOR PORPOISE.
Report swiftynifty May 11, 2022 3:24 PM BST
Different stewards, different hymn sheets.
Report SlippyBlue May 11, 2022 3:28 PM BST
It's completely nonsensical, zero consistency.
Report wondersobright May 11, 2022 3:29 PM BST

May 11, 2022 -- 3:28PM, SlippyBlue wrote:


It's completely nonsensical, zero consistency.


agree 100%

Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2022 3:42 PM BST
compare today with the one at notts on saturday..abso farcical decision.
Report Big Cat May 11, 2022 3:54 PM BST
Notts was a nose. This was a clear winner. Notts was wrong, but two wrongs don't make a right. Only way this could be demoted is if it was placed third and rider was found guilty of dangerous riding
Report elise May 11, 2022 4:01 PM BST
being put 3rd wouldn't be dangerous riding
Report Big Cat May 11, 2022 4:08 PM BST
Could either be demoted 3rd cos it cost the 3rd the race or could be disqualified for dangerous riding, otherwise there's no recourse for placing FPTP second
Report elise May 11, 2022 4:10 PM BST
yes it could be demoted to 3rd for improper or careless but not for dangerous as you posted
Report Big Cat May 11, 2022 4:10 PM BST
Which partly contradicts my first statement i suppose
Report Big Cat May 11, 2022 4:11 PM BST

May 11, 2022 -- 4:10PM, elise wrote:


yes it could be demoted to 3rd for improper or careless but not for dangerous as you posted


Agreed, but only if it cost the 3rd the race

Report elise May 11, 2022 4:11 PM BST
dangerous is straight dq
Report Big Cat May 11, 2022 4:11 PM BST
Even then, the 3rd wouldn't get the race, the 2nd would however
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2022 4:28 PM BST
Big Cat 11 May 22 15:54 
Notts was a nose. This was a clear winner. Notts was wrong,

today hes leant on 3rd for a fur..notts sat never come close to touching.
Report Big Cat May 11, 2022 4:31 PM BST

May 11, 2022 -- 4:28PM, Rico-Dangleflaps wrote:


Big Cat 11 May 22 15:54

Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2022 4:33 PM BST
Big Cat 11 May 22 15:54 
Notts was a nose. This was a clear winner. Notts was wrong, but two wrongs don't make a right. Only way this could be demoted is if it was placed third and rider was found guilty of dangerous riding

you need to learn the rules BC.
Report Big Cat May 11, 2022 4:33 PM BST

May 11, 2022 -- 4:28PM, Rico-Dangleflaps wrote:


Big Cat 11 May 22 15:54

Report Big Cat May 11, 2022 4:36 PM BST
This forum is crap. Quoting doesn't work properly!!
Rico, yes, I said that quote was a mistake... just said it without thinking. But it is the BF forum on which the main objective is to shoot folk down. Hence a rare appearance from me

In a nutshell, this was the right outcome and Notts was plain wrong
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2022 4:57 PM BST
you think the winner today didnt stop the 3rd from finishing at least 2nd?
Report onlooker May 11, 2022 6:01 PM BST
I don't

Mind you - I Backed the 3rd at 21.0 - and was well annoyed watching the race, before the race even finished - let alone waiting for a Stewards. Cry
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2022 6:08 PM BST
3rd beaten a couple of inches for 2nd after the winner has leant/squashed it for a fur and you dont think its effected its position Mischief
Report Big Cat May 11, 2022 6:52 PM BST
To my knowledge, the winner can't be demoted solely because the 3rd was denied 2nd by the interference
Report Big Cat May 11, 2022 6:53 PM BST
If that's happened before, I don't see anything in the rules which would allow it (except dangerous riding)
Report onlooker May 11, 2022 7:17 PM BST
Rico - The opposite

You posted your 'question' in colloquial' terms - as if you were saying it sarcastically (which you, most obviously,  WERE)

You have interpreted my answer Incorrectly, therefore.... and posted your reply accordingly (and somewhat sarcastically, again - given your Happy smiley) .

My - "I don't" - reply - being confirmation of your view.


Brought your Error upon yourself.
Report carrot1960 May 11, 2022 7:25 PM BST
An enquiry was held to consider the placings in this race after interference inside the final furlong involving the winner NEW BEGINNINGS, ridden by Nick Schofield, VAL DANCER (IRE), placed second, ridden by Alex Edwards and PROUD MARI, placed third, ridden by Jack Quinlan. The Stewards considered that the interference had not improved either VAL DANCER’s (IRE) or PROUD MARI’s placing as NEW BEGINNINGS had come from behind both horses approaching the final furlong whereupon he had gone on from both, before appearing to idle albeit whilst always holding those two on the run to the line to win by a length and a quarter and a short head. Scholfield was suspended for 6 days for careless riding as he allowed his mount to drift left-handed under a right-hand drive for a sustained period inside the final furlong, without any correction through his inattention as to the number of horses that were still present to his inside. The result of this was that PROUD MARI was short of room and Alex Edwards was both short of room and forced to stop riding half a furlong out, before having to take a check in the final strides as NEW BEGINNINGS crossed him on the rail when not clear.
Report carrot1960 May 11, 2022 7:27 PM BST
How the hell was the inference going to improve the placed horses finishing positions
Report onlooker May 11, 2022 8:08 PM BST
ABSOLUTELTY - carrot1960

'The Stewards considered that the interference had not improved either VAL DANCER’s (IRE) or PROUD MARI’s placing  ...'
---------------

Either a 'Typo'  - typed - "improved" - meant 'impaired', or 'impeded'. (extremely doubtful)  -- or

Utterly AWFUL Grammar, composition - and interpretation


"not improved"  ! ?

They have made as big  'a Pig's Ear' out of their 'Explanation' - as they did of their Enquiry. 

Disgraceful
Report Wesdag May 11, 2022 8:23 PM BST
Sums up the state of stewarding these days. Crazy
Report carrot1960 May 11, 2022 8:46 PM BST
The consistency of the stewards is mind boggling , today the stewards banned Scholfield for six days yet allowed him to keep the race , yet they only banned Stefano Cherchi on (Wendells Lad)  for three days for riding the same race  , despite him having the whip in his correct hand and trying everything to correct his mount .
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2022 10:40 PM BST
carrot1960 11 May 22 19:27 
How the hell was the inference going to improve the placed horses finishing positions

3rd beaten a couple of inches for 2nd after the winner has leant/squashed it for a fur and you dont think its effected its position ?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2022 10:42 PM BST
Big Cat 11 May 22 18:52 
To my knowledge, the winner can't be demoted solely because the 3rd was denied 2nd by the interference

happened a few times last couple year...newc a couple mths a go they placed the 3rd last as it hmp the horse that ended up finishing last.
Report Movewiththetimes May 11, 2022 11:20 PM BST
I will keep saying this, if you bet on SE you're just a gambler today end of but if you know which stewards make the silly decisions and they're not present on a given day then there's your edge. My last bet on an SE was several months ago when I couldn't believe the amended result, since then there's been a few more.

Rules there are no rules..................
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2022 11:37 PM BST
9/10 go with the betting...odd wun doesnt..some are cringe decisions..ie sat at notts.
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