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stewarty b
02 May 22 18:11
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I think I've tried them all and thought I'd hit the jackpot when I discovered Peroni. I'm not an Ale man but like a can of draught Guinness occasionally. Any suggestions welcome even though I might have tried it. I'm giving Corona a try at present but a tad 'watery' for my taste. TIA
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Report CROPSICK May 2, 2022 6:21 PM BST
Budvar
Report Manoleeds May 2, 2022 6:30 PM BST
A couple of German ones are Paulaner (correct pronunciation pow lan er) , Warsteiner (var steiner)  that you get in some pubs and supermarkets. I wouldn't bother with Becks. From the Czech republic, Budvar and Staropramen always give me a headache for some reason . Black Sheep 54 degree north is good but you'd have to buy it direct from them or from a specialist beer shop.
Report Dotchinite May 2, 2022 6:32 PM BST
I know of no such product.
Report ItsMeSwaddle May 2, 2022 6:42 PM BST
I like Peroni.

Moretti alright but better on draft.
Report Movewiththetimes May 2, 2022 6:42 PM BST
Birra Moretti even the non alcohol taste good.
Report stewarty b May 2, 2022 6:44 PM BST
Thanks for that Manoleeds. I will do some investigation on the first two you mentioned.
Report mitolo May 2, 2022 6:59 PM BST
peroni is carp. flavourless fizz. camden show off is ok. as is brooklyn
Report Fashion Fever May 2, 2022 7:03 PM BST
i like an esterella sat around the pool in benidorm
Report N-east Correspondent May 2, 2022 7:36 PM BST
agree Estrella is ok in bottles or draught

bought Madri Excepcional the other day in Asda 4 for £4 atm and not too bad at all

obviously any bottled lager has to be served cold or bit of a waste of time drinking it Stew
Report 11kv May 2, 2022 7:46 PM BST
Anything thats brewed abroad,not Chelmsford or Burton
Report ItsMeSwaddle May 2, 2022 7:53 PM BST
Fink Estrella tastes like pish.
Report BigDeal May 2, 2022 8:04 PM BST
Why do you drink pish? Just for comparison purposes?
Report paulo47 May 2, 2022 8:24 PM BST
Bangla .....
Report GLASGOWCALLING May 2, 2022 9:48 PM BST
Had the Mother of All Hangovers drinking bottled Becks Lager in my teens !!  Havent touched it since. LaughGrin
Report dukeofpuke May 3, 2022 3:06 AM BST
Warsteiner is a good un still family owned
Report dukeofpuke May 3, 2022 3:07 AM BST
ABK is also up there
Report dukeofpuke May 3, 2022 3:08 AM BST
The German stuff because of the 4 purity laws tend to be the best
Report Hayden May 3, 2022 9:12 AM BST
This type of thread always go on forever , one man's nectar is another man's pish and we'll all be having something completely different come tea time.


Variety is the spice of life.
Report Tiger Tiger May 3, 2022 11:22 AM BST
Lager is for girls.
Report Manoleeds May 3, 2022 11:31 AM BST
A beer anorak writes "The technical difference between the beer categories is in how they are brewed. Lager is a German word that translates as “storage,” which gives a hint as to its method of brewing. Lagers are beers that are ferment slowly at low temperatures. They also ferment from the bottom up. Ales ferment quickly from the top down and are brewed in a warm environment.

In practice, the distinction between beer, lager and ale has become blurred.In most countries, when you ask for a beer, you will be given what looks like, and probably technically is, a lager. In fact, in most non-English speaking countries, there is no specific word in their language for lager or for ale. In many English-speaking countries, if you ask for a beer you will get ale, and you will have to ask specifically for a lager if that’s what you’re after.

In some parts of Germany you can ask for lager but mainly unless English speaking the barman will look questioning at you and you will end up with bier."
Report longbridge May 3, 2022 11:57 AM BST
St Austell Korev

There's nothing wrong with lager as a beer style - it's not my personal favourite but that's by-the-by - the problem is that in this coiuntry "lager" has been used to label beer that is anything but the slow-fermented and slowly-matured product manoleeds describes.
Report Tiger Tiger May 3, 2022 12:31 PM BST
What has been described by Manoleeds is correct - if you live on mainland Europe that is!! Everything described in his post is classed as 'dead' here in the UK, i.e the beer, bier or lager contains no living cells at all. what's more it requires gas to assist it to get it to the bar, its often carbonated and often pasteurised and uses different yeast to ferment at lower temperatures.

In the UK, and many other countries that are developing their ales, real ales as we know them, these ales require no gas to get them to the bar. Its all done by gravity, there is no pasteurisation, no carbonation whatsoever. The casks are stored at 11-13 degrees in a temperature controlled cellar, and unlike the afore mentioned, beers, biers or lagers, our real ales are still alive and continue to ferment whilst in the cask, developing the taste and quality, hence the sediment at the end of the barrel. they are also given more time to settle in the cellar, whereas your beer, bier or lager having been tampered with need no settling as they are 'dead'.

No contest. Give me a real ale please.
Report Hayden May 3, 2022 1:27 PM BST
If it's your round Tiger i'll have a Lager.
Report barstool May 3, 2022 1:32 PM BST
lager for me is for hot sunny days, enjoying  with a curry or when on holiday abroad. At other times I prefer the real ales.

As posted earlier we all have our favourite tipple but there are moments when a lager is best.
Report DancingBraveTheBest May 3, 2022 1:36 PM BST
I enjoy Stella Artois, love the taste. Pity they have weakened its potency over the past few years....used to be 5.2 %  I think but only 4. something now but I still enjoy it....ice cold out of the freezer.Happy
Report longbridge May 3, 2022 1:41 PM BST
@Tiger Tiger

"Everything described in his post is classed as 'dead' here in the UK, i.e the beer, bier or lager contains no living cells at all."

"Everything" is simply not true.  Yes it's true of the industrial Fosters/Carlsberg/whatever but there are plenty of small/craft brewers with a lager in their range where the lager is every bit as 'alive' as their ales.
Report mitolo May 3, 2022 1:51 PM BST
stella is a pale imitation of what it was. ruined. the american-inspired explosion in craft beer production in the uk is most welcome and an indictment of the big brewers who took their customers for mugs(correctly) and served up flavourless gassy rubbish. anyone still consuming them is one of the mugs.

the choice available now is huge, and unsustainable as there are too many micro-brewers. and do not be sniffy about lager. there are some good ones from all over the world and i can have an ipa apa lager and cider on the same day, depending on mood and state of laggoness. no need to drink the same old stuff every time when theres so much out there.
Report DancingBraveTheBest May 3, 2022 1:59 PM BST
imo if someone is doing something they enjoy they are not mugs. The people i think are mugs are people who do things they dont enjoy....life is too short for that imoHappy
Report Trident May 3, 2022 2:07 PM BST
Warsteiner
Report Tiger Tiger May 3, 2022 3:04 PM BST
Longbridge - name me one please?

Please bear in mind that 'craft' has different meaning to different people. I know of lots of small brewers who produce lager, but it is kegged not casked, it is carbonated and it does need gas to get it to the bar.
Report mitolo May 3, 2022 3:34 PM BST
tigger, are you not a fan of things jaipur, despite it being keg? loads of others also. like goose and beavertown.
Report mitolo May 3, 2022 3:35 PM BST
^things like
Report longbridge May 3, 2022 3:38 PM BST
Tiger Tiger - you didn't say you were after cask rather than keg (or if you did, I failed to read it that way).

I was thinking of the bottled lagers with live yeast - so unpasteurised / unfiltered.

That said, I have seen the very occasional cask lager, but it's a very niche product - lager drinks typically want their beer colder than the cask cellar temperature and harder gassed.
Report longbridge May 3, 2022 3:49 PM BST
Braybrooke Keller Lager being an award-winning example of unpasteurised/unfiltered bottled variety.
Report elise May 3, 2022 3:53 PM BST
phallosan forte
Report Tiger Tiger May 3, 2022 4:11 PM BST
mitolo - if you drink Jaipur in a pub it is served from a cask which is held in the cellar, served from a hand pull pump! If you want to drink it at home then you can buy the 5 litre mini cask which some are calling a mini keg!

Brewdog are to blame for most of the misunderstanding as they produce their beers (which are not living beers as they filter) and call them craft beers, a right load of codswallop, the craft beers produced by Brewdog are delivered to the pump from a keg and use gas to assist, just like John Smiths.
Report mitolo May 3, 2022 4:43 PM BST
i have a keg of it at home tiggy. im not a purist beardyweirdy. i just hate the mass-produced garbage. john smiths indeed. possibly the worst.
Report longbridge May 3, 2022 4:53 PM BST
Tiger Tiger

This can become an almost religious discussion, but it is only in the UK that we make the 'real'/'craft' distinction.

In the US where the beer revival of the last twenty years began and continues, almost everything - even homewrewers and microbrewers - is filtered, pateurised and artificially gassed, rather than undergoing secondary fermmentation in bottle or cask.

Just because a beer is delivered in the same manner as John Smiths does not make it equally unattractive - at least to my mind.
Report Tiger Tiger May 3, 2022 4:54 PM BST
Yes, titolo, I don't like the mass produced stuff either. I've a 200 litre brewing system in a spare barn and brew a couple of times a year or when it takes my fancy, its good to try different malts and different hops, although sometimes a SMASH brew can be just as good if you get the ingredients right.
Report Tiger Tiger May 3, 2022 5:12 PM BST
longbridge, cask conditioned ale is still quite popular in parts of the USA which is good.

https://www.brewcrab.com/realale.html

At the end of the day its each to their own, as long as it tastes good, it wouldn't be right if we were all the same.
Report 11kv May 3, 2022 7:38 PM BST
Any Belgian beer Leffe blond is nice
Report barstool May 3, 2022 11:38 PM BST
I used to enjoy a bottle of Grolsch with its own top opener but never see them sold anymore. From memory think it was one of the stronger ones but enjoyable nonetheless. Dutch brew I think, but may be wrong.
Report Manoleeds May 4, 2022 8:02 AM BST
You can still get Grolsch in the swing tops-a quick google shows lots of UK sellers. 4% now .
Report happysandwich May 4, 2022 11:10 AM BST
Couple of mates are going here after the Leyton Orient game Saturday.
One of them is a Manager for CAMRA and spends time abroad so he knows his beer.

Five Points Brewery Tap Room in 61 Mare Street Hackney E8 4RG. 020 8533 7746.
Report barstool May 4, 2022 12:18 PM BST
Thanks Manoleeds. Will look out for them.
Report donb May 4, 2022 12:38 PM BST
Warsteiner, affectionately known as wobbly.
Report Callisto-moon May 4, 2022 1:36 PM BST
rico will take yew for a pina collada and a fe*l up.
Report punchestown May 4, 2022 9:15 PM BST
Hop House 13   https://www.guinness.com/en-ie/our-beers/guinness-hop-house-13-lager/
Report Cauthenmeister May 4, 2022 9:31 PM BST
Hop House 13 tastes of peaches.
Generally German or Czech style lagers are superior to the rest. Go to any small town out there and you'll be served the local brew that you could drink all day. Utopian in Devon make great lager using traditional German techniques and all British ingredients.
Report dukeofpuke May 5, 2022 3:49 AM BST
theres the brew dog lost lager its decent in bottles or cans but £4 plus in their gaffs, another good un is samuel smiths taddy lager in my my gaff on keg draft £3.80, in theirs prob less than £3
Report Llamedos May 5, 2022 8:10 AM BST
https://www.samuelsmithsbrewery.co.uk/shop/bottles/lagers/pure-brewed-organi...
Report Life-Lucky May 5, 2022 9:05 AM BST
Miller High Life - the champagne of beers!
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 5, 2022 2:01 PM BST
mrs stew seen at lidl earlier with a trolley full of kestrel super strength.
Report mitolo May 5, 2022 2:06 PM BST
miller low life. utter sh1te you mug.
Report SlippyBlue May 5, 2022 2:08 PM BST
I'm probably in quite a minority on here being teetotal.

Shocked
Report mitolo May 5, 2022 2:34 PM BST
i suspect its quite a large minority and it does have advantages, like not doing your cobblers in the casino and losing all your cards, which is what ive just done. i couldnt give up a nice glass of vino but judging by some of the sh1te suggested by some on here, they shouldnt bother. if that was all that was available, id give it up.
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