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Rico-Dangleflaps
16 Mar 22 14:03
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has to be value shirley...
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Report stewarty b March 16, 2022 1:14 PM GMT
Given the choice I would go for Gentleman At Arms in the 1:15 at similar prices.
Report FOYLESWAR March 16, 2022 1:21 PM GMT
you might get 1.2 rico hard to see it out the 4
Report stewarts rise March 16, 2022 1:23 PM GMT
Still have to jump them.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 1:24 PM GMT
not sure i'd want to lay 1.1 tbh.
Report GEORGE.B March 16, 2022 1:25 PM GMT
anyone having any bets here or is it all just waffle?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 1:29 PM GMT
Back (Bet For)
Odds Stake Profit
Shishkin
1.18
£67.24
£12.10
Total stake:
£67.24
Report GEORGE.B March 16, 2022 1:30 PM GMT
Good luck Rico
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 1:38 PM GMT
tvm gb.
Report LoyalHoncho March 16, 2022 1:46 PM GMT
For me Rico the only way it;ll be out of the first four is if it doesn't complete.
I always feel that when these quality hotpots get beat it is catastrophe like falling that beats them and it's jumping record is very good.  But betting a 1.20 shot ( or thereabouts ) seems a risk with a big outlay to make a return.
G/L to the horse and you, whatever you do.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 1:55 PM GMT
would you lay 1.18 honcho?
Report De_man March 16, 2022 2:04 PM GMT
Bookies need only one beat to save aka AH etc ..dunno if Shishkin be the one though
Report LoyalHoncho March 16, 2022 2:05 PM GMT
Not on this horse no.
Report De_man March 16, 2022 2:08 PM GMT
Over confidence might do it on this ground now though
Report Life-Lucky March 16, 2022 2:10 PM GMT
thats about as close to free money as I've ever seen -imho
Report LoyalHoncho March 16, 2022 2:20 PM GMT
Will you be playing?
Report LoyalHoncho March 16, 2022 2:23 PM GMT
Mud!  Fences!  fallers?!
1.20 is a hell of risk and I am certain there are better places to be investing it.
100 to win 20.  No thank you.
Report sofiakenny March 16, 2022 2:23 PM GMT
It is not as clean a jumper as Eurgeme and usually makes at least one erratic jump.dodgy bet imo.
Report LoyalHoncho March 16, 2022 2:31 PM GMT
I have to admit I like Energumene the better, and hope it wins because he made the last race the race what it was with his enterprise, but for me this is a watch and enjoy race.
Report sparrow March 16, 2022 2:40 PM GMT
I usually take on the odd short one at Cheltenham and have layed Shishkin today.
Report De_man March 16, 2022 2:40 PM GMT
I agree with LH .. ruby likes him too.. Superstar star status of Shishkin so put him in accums etc but more impressed with Willies this yr tbh how the bookies keep making them so short each yr beyond me .. so many shorties .. not the festival of old ..
Report ItsMeSwaddle March 16, 2022 2:42 PM GMT
Not to win by 5.5L ios a better bet imo.

Cant get my money up yet in case is NR
Report De_man March 16, 2022 2:42 PM GMT
Prices ya cant fault layers of Shishkin ..rain and watering bad combo after ydays amazing racing ..although losing day for me great viewing
Report ItsMeSwaddle March 16, 2022 2:43 PM GMT
And a better price may I add.
Report LoyalHoncho March 16, 2022 2:43 PM GMT
What a boon Bravesmansgame must be to the a/p books.  Had to have been heavily played.  Presumably their nrnb status doesn't count if withdrawn on the day?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 3:10 PM GMT
15:30 Cheltenham
7 Shishkin    1.17    £50.00    £8.51
4 Place Market
7 Shishkin    1.16    £50.00    £8.00
4 Place Market
7 Shishkin    1.15    £50.00    £7.50
4 Place Market
7 Shishkin    1.15    £50.00    £7.50
4 Place Market
7 Shishkin    1.16    £50.00    £8.00
4 Place Market

not much liquidity aboot..
Report stewarty b March 16, 2022 3:18 PM GMT
Go two places imo.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 3:21 PM GMT
Shishkin
Nico de Boinville
£76.59-£600.00

nick the tea money...turf n surf.
Report impossible123 March 16, 2022 3:32 PM GMT
he looked cooked already. Ascot?
Report Ibrahima Sonko March 16, 2022 3:32 PM GMT
Nervous ?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 3:32 PM GMT
Laugh
Report Slicer March 16, 2022 3:32 PM GMT
Sad
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 3:33 PM GMT
yoo cudnt mek it up Cool
Report onlooker March 16, 2022 3:33 PM GMT
You COULD.
Report EastLower Gooner March 16, 2022 3:34 PM GMT
Lord
Report Ibrahima Sonko March 16, 2022 3:35 PM GMT
Never going an inch Confused
Report saddo March 16, 2022 3:35 PM GMT
Clown list?
Report N-east Correspondent March 16, 2022 3:35 PM GMT
hopeless just facking hopeless Laugh
Report Life-Lucky March 16, 2022 3:35 PM GMT
Oh dear .. I did play, Honch, yesterday in my defence, 1.25 to place .. onwards n upwards, what time does the Liverpool game start tonight ...?
Report maleuk01. March 16, 2022 3:36 PM GMT
Ouch

Never went a yard.
Report sofiakenny March 16, 2022 3:37 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaugh  and wazza calls Callisto a clown!!LaughLaugh
Report JJmbe March 16, 2022 3:37 PM GMT
Tin of spam no steak tonight Laugh.
Report hulk23 March 16, 2022 3:37 PM GMT
Rico, get the fkn clown suit on son.

Absolutely hopeless ExcitedLaughLaugh
Report DIFERENT GRAVY 12 March 16, 2022 3:37 PM GMT
STOP PRESS


Millionaire tries nicking 75 quid!!!!
Report impossible123 March 16, 2022 3:37 PM GMT
Ascot could have emptied him. Hendo????????
Report elise March 16, 2022 3:37 PM GMT
aye maybe ground but you'd think that early in the race it might have been something else, not a happy horse
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 3:37 PM GMT
on the up side would have been 10k a couple of yr ago...
Report sageform March 16, 2022 3:38 PM GMT
Bad luck if you backed it before the going went bottomless. Every race a lottery from now on. I shan't be backing any more and I didn't have a bet there either.
Report DancingBraveTheBest March 16, 2022 3:38 PM GMT
Talk about jinxing a horse ffsSad
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 3:38 PM GMT
DIFERENT GRAVY 12 16 Mar 22 15:37 
STOP PRESS


Millionaire tries nicking 75 quid!!!!


aye..same bloke won millions nicking tenners..Excited
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 3:39 PM GMT
at least non laid it so nee wun wun.Mischief
Report N-east Correspondent March 16, 2022 3:41 PM GMT
mind you dont know why Im laughing backed Chacun at 12.00 laid stake at 7.00 with a chunk left
away to press pink button at 4.00 when unseats Cry this game would tame lions
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 3:42 PM GMT
oh yes ne it certainly could.
Report FOYLESWAR March 16, 2022 3:42 PM GMT
fook it we all all have losers ,pick yersel up dus yersel down an start all ovea agin .rico will have forgot about it in 1/2 hour ,s,happens.
Report xmoneyx March 16, 2022 3:44 PM GMT
russian army doing better
Report hulk23 March 16, 2022 3:45 PM GMT
Literally just sh@t myself laughing at you Ricoco.

Boxers in the bin, absolutely hopeless.
Report GLASGOWCALLING March 16, 2022 3:47 PM GMT
Thats why you never see a bookmaker riding a bike.!
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 3:47 PM GMT
lost a cup o tea ulk..nee need to sperm ya boxers man..
Report ItsMeSwaddle March 16, 2022 3:47 PM GMT
HELLO ALL

Anyone want to plays the spreads

Hulks total Chelt steaked

Sell £23 Buy £25
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 3:49 PM GMT
ulk has no funds..

wun o wun..
Report ItsMeSwaddle March 16, 2022 3:50 PM GMT
Does that blunt his opinion?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 3:51 PM GMT
hulk is known as a woffler...all talk and no munnee.
Report portmanpark March 16, 2022 3:58 PM GMT
and give it a week or so you will have the bare faced cheek to update your clowns list.....you hide behind the fact you won your money through fast pictures.....if you had to punt without them you would be living in a cardboard box
Report LoyalHoncho March 16, 2022 4:00 PM GMT
Unlucky L-L.  You took it on the chin and I admire that.
G/L with the recovery mission!
Hope sparrow win laid it.  He said he would.
Report tanglefoot March 16, 2022 4:00 PM GMT
Laugh
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 4:00 PM GMT
Woh oh
Woke up this morning
Closed in on all sides
Nothing doing
I feel resistance
As I open my eyes
Someone's fooling
I've found a way to break
Through this cellophane line
Cause I know what's going on
In my own mind
Am I living in a box
Am I living in a cardboard box
Am I living in a box
Am I living in a cardboard box
Report hulk23 March 16, 2022 4:01 PM GMT
How many 5p's do you need to get yer £22k back ?   Give it up ffs, if what you're trying to do worked we'd all be doing it ya complete nugget.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 4:02 PM GMT
poast ya portal hulk..show the forum hoe shreewd you are

TIA Laugh
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 4:03 PM GMT
all the jellus potless mugs hate rico the multi millionaire long term winner...

seething mugs a tel ya.

🤑
Report hulk23 March 16, 2022 4:04 PM GMT
Seething much Rico ? CoolCool
Laugh
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 4:05 PM GMT
seething ydc?

ive got you's dancing like puppets...

Cool
Report layingisthewayforward March 16, 2022 4:06 PM GMT
LoyalHoncho • March 16, 2022 2:43 PM GMT
What a boon Bravesmansgame must be to the a/p books.  Had to have been heavily played.  Presumably their nrnb status doesn't count if withdrawn on the day?


The clue is in the nrnb ExcitedCrazy
Report hulk23 March 16, 2022 4:06 PM GMT
Multi millionaires don't sit in their pss stained pj's dredging up freds from 10 years ago.

Capiche ...
Report sparrow March 16, 2022 4:07 PM GMT
I did, honcho.
Report LoyalHoncho March 16, 2022 4:07 PM GMT
I sometimes lay - and sometimes doesn't mean often - shorties to be out of the first four.  But they have to be chases, novices and below 1.07.  Winning 100 for the risk of losing 7 beats playing 100 to win 20.  Every day of the week.  And if you play cute you can often cover the 7 with something else in the race.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 4:08 PM GMT
rico = dredger.
Report LoyalHoncho March 16, 2022 4:09 PM GMT
Well done sparrow.  The auld heids sometimes smell one.  Happy
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 4:10 PM GMT




HULK.
Report Gagging March 16, 2022 8:49 PM GMT
yep shiskin was a bummer - but u have to be prepared to have 2 or 3 Chelt hotpots turned over -- anyone hear an explanation for it?
Report punchestown March 16, 2022 8:57 PM GMT
Trainer said it was the ground.
Report FOYLESWAR March 16, 2022 9:00 PM GMT
nicky said it was the ground but he has won on that kind of ground before ,my take is that the ascot race left a mark on him,he had to dig very deep that day and that was prob the hardest race he has run in and going through the pain barrier like that he may have not recovered fully from  it.
Report FOYLESWAR March 16, 2022 9:02 PM GMT
altior and cyrname ..those 2 were never the same after ,granted age was a factor with altior ,energumene may be tougher mentally and physically .
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 9:05 PM GMT
shish didnt look himself after jumped 1st..very strange performance.
Report hulk23 March 16, 2022 9:13 PM GMT
£22k at 1.18 please ...

Report iswearitsoath March 16, 2022 9:16 PM GMT
As others have said on here, the heavy ground excuse just doesn't add up. He was beaten from the off, so there must be another reason.

The horse shapes as though he'd be more comfortable over a longer trip, but that can't be given as a reason for today's flop. There may be something that comes to light over the next few days, and I think it's worth waiting to see before speculating too much.

I've always regarded the Champion Chase as a race that tends to go to form, but there's been a few shorties beaten in recent years - Douvan, Chacun, and now Shishkin.

Energumene probably isn't going to get the plaudits that he deserves, which is a shame, as he's a grand horse in his own right.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 9:16 PM GMT
how do you get 22k on with 17k in acc?

you may get 22 karrots on..
Report hulk23 March 16, 2022 9:24 PM GMT
how do you get 22k on with 17k in acc?

'cos you've got several a/c's.  we're not daft Stephen.
Report Steamship March 16, 2022 9:25 PM GMT
I think Shiskin's head may have gone. That was a hard race at Ascot and he was on the backfoot a long way out and did great to win the race. Today he jumped that first and thought I'm not going there again.
Report hulk23 March 16, 2022 9:35 PM GMT
hot favs psychological issues saves bookies from a hiding.

handy Wink

how far behind were the bookies after yesterday ?
Report the numbers seven March 16, 2022 9:35 PM GMT
If it was my choice I wouldn't run Shiskin at Aintree, agree with others that Ascot left a mark. Lay if it runs at Aintree in 3 weeks.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 16, 2022 9:38 PM GMT
so it didnt leave a mark with the 2nd at ascot that pi$$ed up today?
Report hulk23 March 16, 2022 9:43 PM GMT
left a mark ?  race was on January 22nd, not last Saturday ...
Report maleuk01. March 16, 2022 9:48 PM GMT
They arent machines, cannot tell you when not feeling well.

Not sure the ground is it as was struggling before the first fence.

Again last race was hardly a week or 2 ago.

I guess simply the horse was amiss in someway shape or form.
Report the numbers seven March 16, 2022 9:51 PM GMT
Not a physical mark, more a mental mark, it didn't fancy it from the off. It had to dig deep at Ascot where as WPs horse had the run of the race till Shiskin went past it. Hope the horse is well but probably needs a summer on its back rolling in the fields.
Report FOYLESWAR March 16, 2022 9:51 PM GMT
they are not machines ,like humans some are tougher than others some can take it some cant .of cours erthere coud be other reasons but i dont buy the ground thing .
Report hulk23 March 16, 2022 9:59 PM GMT
Shiskin's head may have gone

running down to the first fence wondering if he's got a chance with Francesca if he wears a smart suit ...
Report hulk23 March 16, 2022 9:59 PM GMT
Shiskin's head may have gone

running down to the first fence wondering if he's got a chance with Francesca if he wears a smart suit ...
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY March 16, 2022 10:17 PM GMT
Altior and cyrname wasn't the same after that dual at all costs.

The ascot race, shiskin worked so hard to beat the champion chaser who looked the winner all  around the line in the Clarence chase.

Also shiskin was knackered by the forumite who could make Kat slater become a nun.
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY March 16, 2022 10:18 PM GMT
Bar the line that should say
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