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luckyme
05 Jan 22 14:51
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Seem to be getting away with murder, some of the "gentle rides" the horses are given then add in the drift on said horse.

Stewards must be on the sherry

Is she the new PAT DOBBS

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By:
luckyme
When: 05 Jan 22 15:04
Well backed this one, lets see if it gets a "gentle ride"
By:
luckyme
When: 05 Jan 22 15:11
opened up at 14s on here, scoots in SP 100/30

STEWARDS REALLY NEED TO WATCH THIS STABLES RUNNERS.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 05 Jan 22 20:42
The winner, MARTINEO appeared to show improved form compared with its previous run at Wolverhampton on 2 October 2021, when the gelding finished seventh of 10, beaten by 4½ lengths. The explanation from John Butler that MARTINEO had benefitted from recent veterinary treatment to its knees and joints was noted and the gelding was routine tested.


    ... LaughGrin
By:
luckyme
When: 05 Jan 22 21:46
Wonder what he will say when Weloof wins something like

"well he had no chance the last time as the jockey rode to orders but I gave the jockey different orders today and the horse improved no end"


Stewards really are blind C$$TS
By:
ballyregan
When: 05 Jan 22 22:45
did the stewards ask what the treatment was ?
the horse is 7 it took the trainer an awful long time to recognise the issue judging by the many duckeggs it has obtained
By:
luckyme
When: 05 Jan 22 22:51
true probably hungry for magic carrots that seem to cure all issues and make the horses run faster to boot but seriously the rides some of this guys horses are getting is blatant.
By:
ballyregan
When: 05 Jan 22 22:55
the first two in the field today are both proper gambling yards the betfair graph always tells you how they will run wigwams looked wanted and must be gutted to have bumped into this one today
By:
luckyme
When: 05 Jan 22 22:59
yes bally I agree must be sick however I don't mind them collecting on the winning days but someone on here knows when to blue it or pink it.

betty and the stewards should monitor it closely.
By:
luckyme
When: 05 Jan 22 23:06
Btw I have to add Grace is only an apprentice so does what she is told she's not a bad little jock as she proved today
By:
ballyregan
When: 05 Jan 22 23:10
great ride today martineo was never travelling as sweetly as deputise but her aggression to gain a more prominent position won martineo the race.
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 05 Jan 22 23:38
Isnt it so so obvious what John Buttscratcher is trying to do.

So blatently obvious its embarro.
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 05 Jan 22 23:39
There is some stables and you think yep good for them, they clearly love the game, respect for running their horses, this aint one.
By:
scrabbler
When: 06 Jan 22 08:46
If you owned a moderate horse, wouldn't you want it to be campaigned in this manner ? It is the only way of getting any chance of recouping your outlay. As long as prize money is so poor this is going to happen.
By:
fairweather
When: 06 Jan 22 09:14
You lot do know John was assistant to Barney Curley for years before getting his own licence? Confused
By:
sparrow
When: 06 Jan 22 10:16
Thats right fairweather.
By:
ballyregan
When: 06 Jan 22 10:26
I guess now conspiracy theorists will now be asking is barney actually dead and was he behind the gamble that would be up there with yellow sam
By:
luckyme
When: 06 Jan 22 14:08
Yes I knew who he was assistant to however any half decent trainer can win with a horse who has been restrained/pulled/ ran on unsuitable ground for the previous 6 races.
Its the previous 6 rides that the stewards should be looking at and the betting.
I see Grace didn't fall out of the stalls and stay in the back three horses with a furlong to go then let horse run on when all to let.

Did she f*ck, money down different ride.
By:
saddo
When: 06 Jan 22 14:12
I'm waiting til she's quicker out of the stalls on Sweet Bertie over 7 Laugh
By:
luckyme
When: 06 Jan 22 14:42
You as well, ffs I thought I was the only one.... Cry
By:
the dealer
When: 06 Jan 22 15:56
Your assumption that it's easy to win a race by merely running it down the park a few times, is miles wrong IMHO
I doubt many of the half decent trainers you are referring to would agree, its not easy to win any race, getting them well handicapped helps but you still need loafs of things to go right to collect.
Just ask the many failed gambles every week if its easy.
I haven't looked at his stats but in the last few years I'm pretty sure he has had a fair few big priced winners
By:
luckyme
When: 16 Jan 22 17:38
Dealer
have a look at these stats

how many horses that drift avoid all the trouble and win....eh I would say not many.

how many horses that shorten in the betting find no trouble and win.....eh I would say more that the above group. Laugh


Anyway these pair are out again tomorrow with two horses at Wolverhampton, stewards should stay off the sherry and watch the races instead.
By:
duncan idaho
When: 17 Jan 22 09:14
what stats? you havent provided any stats
By:
the dealer
When: 17 Jan 22 12:11
His last 2 runners have both won, going off at 7/1 and 9/1 neither that strong in the market.

Take a horse of his Uzincsco, won 6 races  for him, last win 17th Jan last year off 88, ran 6 times since, last race 5th Jan when 4th off 88.

Split Elevens won at 4/1 and then 12/1 ridden the same way both times.

Precisely when it won in December, 8/1 chance, not clear run, switched right ran on.

6 or 7 years ago I would have agreed with you, a Butler drifter or large price one would be no where near winning or placing but that simply isn't true now or for the last few years,

Look at Martineo's races, yes it landed a gamble last time after what I agree were some questionable runs but look at the times it finished second, look when it won at at 12/1, there is no pattern.

He can undoubtedly land a gamble, as he did when Barney Curley landed the multiple touch 6 or 7 years ago but imo he has moved on from that and isn't a one trick pony.
By:
saddo
When: 17 Jan 22 15:49
Split Elevens doubled in price and won
By:
the dealer
When: 17 Jan 22 16:56

Jan 17, 2022 -- 3:49PM, saddo wrote:


Split Elevens doubled in price and won


Cheers,  Wasn't aware it opened up at that price,

By:
saddo
When: 17 Jan 22 17:30
Seas of Elzaam is drifting, I'm backing w/p, though the three in a row thing is rather off-putting
By:
luckyme
When: 17 Jan 22 19:09
AH Duncan



what stats? you haven't provided any stats

Are ya trying to tell me you (a person on here the last 18 years )think more of his drifters win than his horses that shorten win with out checking the stats. Take a wild guess which group you think has the most winners if ya think its the drifters well without checking the stats I will have an even 50 on the one that shorten.    Laugh
By:
luckyme
When: 17 Jan 22 19:13
Dealer

as I said earlier on I don't mind them running bad races they are not machines but when they run a bad race plus drift before the race on here well someone knows the time of day with that yard.
By:
luckyme
When: 17 Jan 22 19:17
Wonder how he will get on with the well backed fav in the last and btw I backed it.
By:
the dealer
When: 17 Jan 22 19:24
If it wins nothing to see, If it loses probably bent, if it loses and drifts definitely bent, cause you see what you want to see. Drifters win and run well every day, many of Butlers have as highlighted, they just don't fit you agenda.
By:
luckyme
When: 17 Jan 22 19:29
cause you see what you want to see.


Don't be so stupid to think you know what I will think if a certain horse wins or loses a race. You don't know me.
By:
the dealer
When: 17 Jan 22 19:30
Aye lol LaughLaugh
By:
the dealer
When: 17 Jan 22 19:34
Nothing to see then
By:
luckyme
When: 17 Jan 22 19:36
F**king Great Stable, what the **** do I know.... LaughLaughLaughLaugh

Only pulling your leg dealer
By:
the dealer
When: 17 Jan 22 19:37
Aye so you were !!!


WD on the winner
By:
luckyme
When: 17 Jan 22 19:39
Wink Thanks

just enough to buy me dinner.
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