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jamesdean
22 Nov 21 17:05
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winner get chucked?
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Report ItsMeSwaddle November 22, 2021 5:06 PM GMT
Is a 1.29 shot the bother reopening.
Report elise November 22, 2021 5:06 PM GMT
should call one
Report swiftynifty November 22, 2021 5:07 PM GMT
not for me, too far out, Clifford Lee hands n heels thought he'd get there.
Report sparrow November 22, 2021 5:07 PM GMT
Could well go
Report jamesdean November 22, 2021 5:07 PM GMT
Have to call one surely
Report geoff m November 22, 2021 5:07 PM GMT
certainly impeded
Report hulk23 November 22, 2021 5:07 PM GMT
even if it doesn't who was punting it at 1.1 in the photo with a guaranteed stewards coming ...
Report jamesdean November 22, 2021 5:07 PM GMT
What on earth are the stewards there for if they aint calling 1 for that
Report swiftynifty November 22, 2021 5:07 PM GMT
hulk, probably the same guy backing 1.03 the second
Report Mick Sturbs November 22, 2021 5:08 PM GMT
I think second gets it
Report bilbobaggins November 22, 2021 5:08 PM GMT
Where's the bloody stewards?
Report jamesdean November 22, 2021 5:08 PM GMT
winners nearly put the 2nd through the rail
Report elise November 22, 2021 5:09 PM GMT
not sure how they'd go with it, just surprised not called
Report jamesdean November 22, 2021 5:09 PM GMT
runner up should call objection if the stewards cant see that
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 22, 2021 5:10 PM GMT
Surely Lee has to lodge an objection.
Report swiftynifty November 22, 2021 5:10 PM GMT
he has apparently
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 22, 2021 5:10 PM GMT
Betfair settled .... usually the cue for an Enquiry.
Report duffy November 22, 2021 5:10 PM GMT
The 2nd was coming through at the point of interference, stopped momentum...2 milers don't just pick up again...he was winding up at the time he was stopped, reckon he'd have ground on to a 2 /3 length win without the interference.
Report jamesdean November 22, 2021 5:11 PM GMT
but betfair settle market, they really are fking clowns at times
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 22, 2021 5:11 PM GMT
Laugh
Report swiftynifty November 22, 2021 5:11 PM GMT
'keep the race' market to open shortly DOUBLE COMMISSION
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 22, 2021 5:12 PM GMT
No keep the race marketCry
Report elise November 22, 2021 5:13 PM GMT
open now
Report jamesdean November 22, 2021 5:13 PM GMT
is now screaming

someone just laid 2/1 to stand 200/400
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 22, 2021 5:13 PM GMT
hulk23 22 Nov 21 17:07 
even if it doesn't who was punting it at 1.1 in the photo with a guaranteed stewards coming ...


1.01 you cant post a lay.. tia
Report elise November 22, 2021 5:13 PM GMT
v close odds
Report OVERSEAS November 22, 2021 5:14 PM GMT
any free money here, didnt see race, so going with the forum nod
Report jamesdean November 22, 2021 5:14 PM GMT
Gets chucked imo
Report scoobytoo November 22, 2021 5:15 PM GMT
goes imo
Report elise November 22, 2021 5:15 PM GMT
im not sure, it really is a coin toss because they may say it happened too early
Report swiftynifty November 22, 2021 5:16 PM GMT
Philip Prince is deaf in his left ear. He can say he didn't hear Lee coming up his inside and he wouldn't be lying.
Report OVERSEAS November 22, 2021 5:16 PM GMT
will leave alone.
Report scoobytoo November 22, 2021 5:17 PM GMT
loses more ground than it was beaten-the only thing that makes winner keep it is that the stewards were asleep when it happened(betting is wrong way round here)
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 22, 2021 5:17 PM GMT
Thanks, james.

Laid the FPP at 1.15 in the photo, and backed it at evens to keep the race just to save my stake. Think (and hope) it gets chucked.

17:00 Chelmsford City
Chocolate Box - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:251372377795 | Placed: 22-Nov-21 17:04:11    Lay    1.15    366.67    --    55.00
-55.00
Lost
Report swiftynifty November 22, 2021 5:18 PM GMT
Amending a result after an objection but having failed to call an Enquiry is surely an admission of incompetence from the stewards so unlikely.
Report jamesdean November 22, 2021 5:18 PM GMT
Prince whip in wrong hand and continues to whip horse after its bumped the 2nd
Report Angela Rebecchi November 22, 2021 5:19 PM GMT

Nov 22, 2021 -- 11:18AM, swiftynifty wrote:


Amending a result after an objection but having failed to call an Enquiry is surely an admission of incompetence from the stewards so unlikely.


That's exactly how I would see it.

Report jamesdean November 22, 2021 5:19 PM GMT
You really have to wonder what the fk the stewards were doing that they didnt call one
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 22, 2021 5:19 PM GMT
i conker wiv swifty..sed that 15 min ago.
Report pizzaro November 22, 2021 5:20 PM GMT
Bad losers surely you lot have seen worse,  horse aint won fa 3 year give us a break
Report ItsMeSwaddle November 22, 2021 5:20 PM GMT

Nov 22, 2021 -- 11:19AM, jamesdean wrote:


You really have to wonder what the fk the stewards were doing that they didnt call one


Called, in speicals

Report penzance November 22, 2021 5:21 PM GMT
the distance that was beaten by,that should
be overturned imo.
You never know now though.
Report jamesdean November 22, 2021 5:21 PM GMT
Only after lee objected though
Report ItsMeSwaddle November 22, 2021 5:21 PM GMT
God knows why they settle the markets.

What is difficult about weighed in, settle.
Report elise November 22, 2021 5:24 PM GMT
stands i think
Report jamesdean November 22, 2021 5:24 PM GMT
must stand

market swiped late on
Report KeMoH November 22, 2021 5:24 PM GMT
Disgraceful
Report commander November 22, 2021 5:24 PM GMT
Somebody just swept the market
Report KeMoH November 22, 2021 5:24 PM GMT
Should have been overturned imo
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 22, 2021 5:25 PM GMT
jamesdean 22 Nov 21 17:08 
winners nearly put the 2nd through the rail

jamesdean 22 Nov 21 17:14 
Gets chucked imo


became the worst stewards judge in the forum..sad demise.
Report swiftynifty November 22, 2021 5:26 PM GMT
commander, it was Dale Winton, Super Market Sweep
Report elise November 22, 2021 5:26 PM GMT
bit harsh rico that was a close one i think
Report jamesdean November 22, 2021 5:28 PM GMT
That's ricos way of being nice i think, elise
Report swiftynifty November 22, 2021 5:28 PM GMT
2-1 in the keep the race market, ends up a dodgy 1.14.
Report bilbobaggins November 22, 2021 5:29 PM GMT
An appalling decision.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 22, 2021 5:29 PM GMT
jamesdean 22 Nov 21 17:08
winners nearly put the 2nd through the rail

that was 100% harsh elsie.
Report jamesdean November 22, 2021 5:30 PM GMT
Stewards take 15 minutes to decide the outcome but didnt see fit to call anything themselves.
What are they actually getting paid for
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 22, 2021 5:30 PM GMT
Rico-Dangleflaps 22 Nov 21 17:15 
winner has sl impeded 2nd bout 1.5f out..2nd has then had the last fur to win if goodenuff...has it cost it more thans its lost by? yes but evens each in the stewards
Report elise November 22, 2021 5:30 PM GMT
well i agree it wasn't through the rail but could have seen them reverse it, there have been plenty of races where we've seen less and they got binned
Report elise November 22, 2021 5:32 PM GMT
i wouldn't have been shocked either way, can understand those on the 2nd being miffed
Report pizzaro November 22, 2021 5:33 PM GMT
I totally agree pissflaps
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 22, 2021 5:33 PM GMT
the embarrassment again with racing in this country is the incompetance of the stewarding..absolutely crigeworthy.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 22, 2021 5:34 PM GMT
i as i concurred with swifty..i thort stewards had to let it stand to save face.
Report sparrow November 22, 2021 5:35 PM GMT
Chelmsford stewards have some history.
Report elise November 22, 2021 5:38 PM GMT
we come back to it every few weeks , stewards are poor bha worse
Report ItsMeSwaddle November 22, 2021 5:42 PM GMT
I am surprised they dont save some money VAR style with a central cistern soemwhere in the country.

Is 100/1 there is 2 stewards enq at once.
Report scoobytoo November 22, 2021 6:34 PM GMT
An enquiry was held to consider the placings in this race after interference approximately 1½ furlongs out involving the winner, CHOCOLATE BOX (IRE), ridden by Philip Prince and SOCIALLY SHADY, placed second, ridden by Clifford Lee. The Stewards considered that the interference had not improved CHOCOLATE BOX (IRE)’s placing as the interference had occurred some distance from the line and SOCIALLY SHADY had drawn upsides CHOCOLATE BOX (IRE) after the incident, before being held all the way to the line to be beaten a short head. Prince was cautioned for careless riding as he allowed his mount to drift marginally left causing SOCIALLY SHADY to be slightly checked.
Report scoobytoo November 22, 2021 6:41 PM GMT
There's an ignorance of basic common sense here.
The horse had to be checked which slowed its momentum down and as a result id guess it lost far more ground than the short head it got beat. Did interference take please...YES As a result of that interference did the horse lose more ground than it was beat YES. Result-horse thrown out-this should have took 2 minutes.  It only held onto the race as they didn't have the competence to call the stewards in the first place.
Report jamesdean November 22, 2021 6:43 PM GMT
Translated as

The stewards didnt notice anything live as they were too busy scoffing lobster thermidor and supping freebie
wine from the hospitality. When they were alerted to the interference, they covered their own @rses but deciding the ressult should stand, even though they
all agreed, had they spotted it themselves, the placings wouldve been revised/
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